Re: [Pharo-users] UK Smalltalk User Group Meeting - Wednesday, May 27th

2020-05-20 Thread Tim Mackinnon
Before the lockdown, when you could meet in the pub, we were blown away when Alan nervously approached us and asked if we were the UKST group as he was keen to meet some Smalltalkers as he’d been using this music system written in Smalltalk ... it was an amazing story that I’m sure he’ll get int

Re: [Pharo-users] UK Smalltalk User Group Meeting - Wednesday, May 27th

2020-05-20 Thread Serge Stinckwich
On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 10:00 PM Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > > > On 20 May 2020, at 13:38, Giovanni Corriga wrote: > > The next meeting of the UK Smalltalk User Group will be on Wednesday, > May 27th. > > Alan Jackson will talk to us about Kyma ( https://kyma.symbolicsound.com/ ) > an object-ori

Re: [Pharo-users] Spec2 Pharo8/9; icons

2020-05-20 Thread Tomaž Turk
Thanks, Stephane, I'll switch to P9. > png is better and there is a library to manage icons > I do not have the name but you can load icons. > But look around. For icons I found the necessary code in ThemeIcons>>loadIconsFromUrl. Here's a simplistic approach to load icons from PNGs in a local Z

Re: [Pharo-users] Refactor without formatting

2020-05-20 Thread Vitor Medina Cruz
Ok, so should I open the issue or leave it as it is? On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 2:08 PM Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > There is what we would love to have and there is what we have. > It is difficult to conserve the formatting of the original method > especially on extract > or more generally on code tr

Re: [Pharo-users] running Pharo8 in Digitalocean

2020-05-20 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
thanks sven :) pharoweekly.wordpress.com/2020/05/20/deployment-tips-from-the-pros/ S > On 17 May 2020, at 20:28, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > > Hi Sanjay, > > When you do a metacello configuration or baseline inst

Re: [Pharo-users] Spec2 Pharo8/9; icons

2020-05-20 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hello Tomaz > Dear all, > > What would be the best Pharo version to start building a Spec2 GUI for an app > - Pharo 9 which is under development but with novelties in Spec2, or Pharo 8? I would go for P9. It may be a bit shaky from time to time but for example you can milestoned your image and

Re: [Pharo-users] New user

2020-05-20 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
> On 20 May 2020, at 18:59, G B wrote: > > > From: G B > Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] New user > Date: 20 May 2020 at 18:59:15 CEST > To: Any question about pharo is welcome > > > Thank you all for your comments. I'm using Pharo on Windows and I > uninstalled it completely and reinstalled,

Re: [Pharo-users] New user

2020-05-20 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Https does not requires ssh keys. S. > On 20 May 2020, at 06:02, Ben Coman wrote: > > Something I'm not quite sure on, is whether using > repository: 'github://'rather than a HTTPS connection requires > SSH keys to set up. > Presuming so, you should first ensure you SSH i

Re: [Pharo-users] New user

2020-05-20 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
> > > Hello, > > I feel your pain. > Updated, consistent and centralized documentation is not strong in Pharo. I cannot let you say that sorry :) We have a mooc with more than 100 videos We have books that are maintained. This is not by accident or fun that I spent time updating Pharo by Exa

Re: [Pharo-users] Refactor without formatting

2020-05-20 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
There is what we would love to have and there is what we have. It is difficult to conserve the formatting of the original method especially on extract or more generally on code transformation. Now it does not mean that we like it this way. But given the ratio income/results I think that Pharo

Re: [Pharo-users] Refactor without formatting

2020-05-20 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
> > Yeah, that's why I think it would be great if the RB engine could be extended > with a(n optional) hook to call some "local/personal" formatter instead of > reformatting immediately. This way we could at least make sure that the > reformatting happens according to our taste and in line with

Re: [Pharo-users] New user

2020-05-20 Thread G B via Pharo-users
--- Begin Message --- Thank you all for your comments.  I'm using Pharo on Windows and I uninstalled it completely and reinstalled, so I will use your suggestions. Another question, if I may, is what order of books should I use?  I purchased "Pharo 5 by Example" (because it was newer than "Pharo

Re: [Pharo-users] New user

2020-05-20 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi patrick Welcome. I do not use Seaside recently but I know that many many people. There is a online channel about seasiders in the Pharo discord channel. May be you should post there to get a fast answer. Did you look at the mooc? If you need some help with the setup we can have a screen s

Re: [Pharo-users] UK Smalltalk User Group Meeting - Wednesday, May 27th

2020-05-20 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
> On 20 May 2020, at 13:38, Giovanni Corriga wrote: > > The next meeting of the UK Smalltalk User Group will be on Wednesday, May > 27th. > > Alan Jackson will talk to us about Kyma ( https://kyma.symbolicsound.com/ > ) an object-oriented sound design > e

[Pharo-users] UK Smalltalk User Group Meeting - Wednesday, May 27th

2020-05-20 Thread Giovanni Corriga
The next meeting of the UK Smalltalk User Group will be on Wednesday, May 27th. Alan Jackson will talk to us about Kyma ( https://kyma.symbolicsound.com/ ) an object-oriented sound design environment built with Smalltalk technology. Given the current COVID-19 restrictions, this will be an onlin

Re: [Pharo-users] Refactor without formatting

2020-05-20 Thread Vitor Medina Cruz
Hello, Thanks for the reply. Yes, for me this behavior happens since ever. I can open an issue, but I will not be able to pinpoint the VCS commit where this behavior was introduced... One thing I don't understand is why reformat is needed in some refactor cases? I have never seen this behavior i

Re: [Pharo-users] New user

2020-05-20 Thread Vitor Medina Cruz
> > Something I'm not quite sure on, is whether using > repository: 'github://'rather than a HTTPS connection > requires SSH keys to set up. > There is no need of SSH keys setup. On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 2:02 AM Vince Refiti < vince.ref...@trapezegroup.com.au> wrote: > Hi > > > > I p

Re: [Pharo-users] Refactor without formatting

2020-05-20 Thread jtuc...@objektfabrik.de
Am 20.05.20 um 10:45 schrieb Guillermo Polito: Hi, El 20 may 2020, a las 1:54, Ben Coman > escribió: That seems to violate the Principal Of Least Surprise. Yes, I happen to also not like that behaviour :( me too. Although I am not on Pharo ;-) Whether or no

Re: [Pharo-users] Refactor without formatting

2020-05-20 Thread Guillermo Polito
Hi, > El 20 may 2020, a las 1:54, Ben Coman escribió: > > That seems to violate the Principal Of Least Surprise. Yes, I happen to also not like that behaviour :( > Whether or not it ends up getting changed, I think its worthwhile entering > that directly in the issue tracker. > It would assis

Re: [Pharo-users] Siren 9.0 Released

2020-05-20 Thread Richard O'Keefe
Cincom still has a "Personal Use Licence". http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/main/community/product-portal/trying-cincom-smalltalk/personal-use-license/ I am running vw8.3pul, and file ~/vw8.3pul/bin/linuxx86_64/visual /home/ok/vw8.3pul/bin/linuxx86_64/visual: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, versio