[Pharo-users] GUI Applications

2016-06-06 Thread sergio ruiz
It would seem to me that in order for an ecosystem to really take hold on the part of the users, it’s really important that it’s efficient and easy to create a GUI based application. Can anyone comment on the current state of libraries for creating and distributing GUI applications? Thanks! -

Re: [Pharo-users] GUI Applications

2016-06-06 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Hi Sergio, You are very right. Pharo offers several GUI framework, including Spec, Glamour. Check for Deep Into Pharo, a book which talk about theses. Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~

Re: [Pharo-users] GUI Applications

2016-06-06 Thread p...@highoctane.be
I am using Seaside and the UI is web based. Even if Pharo runs locally. Maybe Bloc and a VM running on ARM/Android will change this but as most users are using mobile devices, well, that's the best I can target for now. Phil On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 8:56 PM, sergio ruiz wrote: > It would seem to

Re: [Pharo-users] GUI Applications

2016-06-06 Thread sergio ruiz
is there one GUI framework that is being used more than the others, or that is more mature? Thanks! > On Jun 6, 2016, at 3:51 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > > You are very right. Pharo offers several GUI framework, including Spec, > Glamour. > Check for Deep Into Pharo, a book which talk abou

Re: [Pharo-users] GUI Applications

2016-06-06 Thread sergio ruiz
yes, but i kind of want to avoid the web.. i just want something that works natively without the headaches of browser incompatibility. I also want an app to feel snappy and able to make OS calls.. > On Jun 6, 2016, at 3:51 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > > Hi Sergio, > > You are very right. Ph

Re: [Pharo-users] GUI Applications

2016-06-06 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Glamour and Spec :-) Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > On Jun 6, 2016, at 3:59 PM, sergio ruiz wrote: > > is there one GUI framework that is being used more than the others

Re: [Pharo-users] GUI Applications

2016-06-06 Thread Johan Fabry
Hi Sergio, the standard way to build UIs in Pharo is by using Spec. There is a video of me presenting it at the Pharo Days 2015 that gives you a first overview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OL23s9ZUIR0&feature=youtu.be&list=PL4actYd6bfnz98ngrKALwwStl3C3odEKG There is also written documentatio

Re: [Pharo-users] GUI Applications

2016-06-06 Thread sergio ruiz
Great! Thanks! I will take a look at this.. > On Jun 6, 2016, at 4:12 PM, Johan Fabry wrote: > > the standard way to build UIs in Pharo is by using Spec. There is a video of > me presenting it at the Pharo Days 2015 that gives you a first overview > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OL23s9ZUIR0

Re: [Pharo-users] GUI Applications

2016-06-06 Thread Ben Coman
For general UI, use Spec. For browser** based UI, check Glamour. **Meaning like Pharo System Browser, not a web browser. Not sure if there another term that could avoid any confusion? cheers -ben On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 3:59 AM, sergio ruiz wrote: > is there one GUI framework that is being used

Re: [Pharo-users] GUI Applications

2016-06-07 Thread Pavel Krivanek
You may be interested in Phobos: https://github.com/pavel-krivanek/phobos-framework -- Pavel 2016-06-06 20:56 GMT+02:00 sergio ruiz : > It would seem to me that in order for an ecosystem to really take hold on > the part of the users, it’s really important that it’s efficient and easy > to creat

Re: [Pharo-users] GUI Applications

2016-06-07 Thread Stephan Eggermont
On 06/06/16 22:46, sergio ruiz wrote: Great! Thanks! I will take a look at this.. On Jun 6, 2016, at 4:12 PM, Johan Fabry wrote: the standard way to build UIs in Pharo is by using Spec. When building end-user applications, you're very likely to need Morphic to make Spec or Glamour do what

Re: [Pharo-users] GUI Applications

2016-06-08 Thread stepharo
I agree with you this is why we worked on building Spec (still working on a new tutorial) cleaning morphic helping people to rethink the core graphics and all the stack Stef Le 6/6/16 à 20:56, sergio ruiz a écrit : It would seem to me that in order for an ecosystem to really t

Re: [Pharo-users] GUI Applications

2016-06-08 Thread stepharo
Le 6/6/16 à 22:01, sergio ruiz a écrit : yes, but i kind of want to avoid the web.. i just want something that works natively without the headaches of browser incompatibility. I also want an app to feel snappy and able to make OS calls.. me too :) On Jun 6, 2016, at 3:51 PM, Alexandre B

Re: [Pharo-users] GUI Applications

2016-06-08 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Morphic is so far for me my favorite option Morphic has a lot of ugly code inside it but its by far the most powerful of all, and its not hard at all to implement your own cleaners implementations since the functionality is already there its also well tested based on a brilliant design lacks docum

Re: [Pharo-users] GUI Applications

2016-06-08 Thread Petr Fischer
Interesting - is possible to write app like CASE diagram editor with this phobos-XUL thing (so a lot of custom drawing to something like canvas), or it's intended rather for "form apps"? pf > You may be interested in Phobos: > https://github.com/pavel-krivanek/phobos-framework > > -- Pavel >

Re: [Pharo-users] GUI Applications

2016-06-08 Thread sergio ruiz
whoa! chronosmanager is way awesome! i am going to start using it for my task/pomodoro timer! > On Jun 8, 2016, at 7:34 AM, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > > Its also the best solution for custom designed GUIs which is what I used for > my ChronosManager project you can find in Catalog Browser.

Re: [Pharo-users] GUI Applications

2016-06-08 Thread Pavel Krivanek
It is possible but not without JavaScript. There is (non Smalltalk) XUL based project of this type. http://pencil.evolus.vn/Features.html -- Pavel 2016-06-08 17:13 GMT+02:00 Petr Fischer : > Interesting - is possible to write app like CASE diagram editor with this > phobos-XUL thing (so a lot o

Re: [Pharo-users] GUI Applications

2016-06-08 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Thank you Sergio I will be building a ton of new custom GUIs for Pharo for my Ephestos project which ChronosManager is part of , so this is only the beginning of testing the limitations of Morphic ;) Will keep you posted about my progress. On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 6:23 PM sergio ruiz wrote: > whoa