Re: [Pharo-users] pharo _looks_ good, but can be improved ...

2015-01-30 Thread stepharo
Le 25/1/15 16:57, kilon alios a écrit : frankly I dont see why people keep linking this design document. Google has no clue about good design as most software companies, they definitely droped the ball in that area with Android. But that is my opinion. Pharo can be definetly be improved in

Re: [Pharo-users] pharo _looks_ good, but can be improved ...

2015-01-25 Thread Nicolai Hess
Am 25.01.2015 16:20 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com: But next year we will have an Athens based UI, so the performance will improve dramatically :) Yes? What? Bloc or morphic on top of athens ? And what makes you think, Athens is fast er? Real problem is to invest time (and

Re: [Pharo-users] pharo _looks_ good, but can be improved ...

2015-01-25 Thread kilon alios
frankly I dont see why people keep linking this design document. Google has no clue about good design as most software companies, they definitely droped the ball in that area with Android. But that is my opinion. Pharo can be definetly be improved in several areas but it has been already a huge

[Pharo-users] pharo _looks_ good, but can be improved ...

2015-01-25 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
while i admire what the pharo team has done with it's user interface, i believe it can be improved. has google's material design been considered off-late? do take a look at; http://www.google.com/design/ ~mayuresh

Re: [Pharo-users] pharo _looks_ good, but can be improved ...

2015-01-25 Thread Aliaksei Syrel
On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 3:02 PM, Mayuresh Kathe mayur...@kathe.in wrote: http://www.google.com/design/spec/material-design/introduction.html It is almost impossible to do it like this in Pharo now because of low drawing performance and bad support of animations. Sad but true. Cheers, Alex

Re: [Pharo-users] pharo _looks_ good, but can be improved ...

2015-01-25 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
But next year we will have an Athens based UI, so the performance will improve dramatically :) Real problem is to invest time (and talent) to improve current design... It costs much more than you could believe. Esteban On 25/1/2015, at 15:42, Mayuresh Kathe mayur...@kathe.in wrote: On

Re: [Pharo-users] pharo _looks_ good, but can be improved ...

2015-01-25 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
On 25 Jan 2015, at 17:39, Nicolai Hess nicolaih...@web.de wrote: Am 25.01.2015 16:20 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com mailto:esteba...@gmail.com: But next year we will have an Athens based UI, so the performance will improve dramatically :) Yes? What? Bloc or

Re: [Pharo-users] pharo _looks_ good, but can be improved ...

2015-01-25 Thread Aliaksei Syrel
Hi, What will happen with Athens when Pharo moves to Spur? As I know NativeBoost doesn't work in Spur yet Cheers, Alex On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 6:40 PM, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: On 25 Jan 2015, at 17:39, Nicolai Hess nicolaih...@web.de wrote: Am 25.01.2015 16:20 schrieb

Re: [Pharo-users] pharo _looks_ good, but can be improved ...

2015-01-25 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
These are pharo-dev discussions, not pharo-users discussions. This is about stuff (far) in the future, not current usage. On 25 Jan 2015, at 18:51, Aliaksei Syrel alex.sy...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, What will happen with Athens when Pharo moves to Spur? As I know NativeBoost doesn't work in

Re: [Pharo-users] pharo _looks_ good, but can be improved ...

2015-01-25 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 03:35:40PM +0100, Aliaksei Syrel wrote: On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 3:02 PM, Mayuresh Kathe mayur...@kathe.in wrote: http://www.google.com/design/spec/material-design/introduction.html It is almost impossible to do it like this in Pharo now because of low drawing

Re: [Pharo-users] pharo _looks_ good, but can be improved ...

2015-01-25 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
On 2015-01-25 19:30, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: while i admire what the pharo team has done with it's user interface, i believe it can be improved. has google's material design been considered off-late? do take a look at; http://www.google.com/design/ actually, a more precise 'url' would be as