Re: [Phono-L] Cleaning a phonograph. Wax removing.

2010-02-14 Thread Rich
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Re: [Phono-L] Cleaning a phonograph. Wax removing.

2010-02-14 Thread Rich
Or powdered mica, which is much easier to get a hold of. If the original graphite and Vaseline has oxidized to a lumpy solid it must be removed from the spring by mechanical means. Or the use of chemical solvents that are no longer available. Steven Medved wrote: Hello Greg, I cannot agree

Re: [Phono-L] Cleaning a phonograph. Wax removing.

2010-02-14 Thread Gabriel Marro
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Re: [Phono-L] Cleaning a phonograph. Wax removing.

2010-02-14 Thread Rich
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Re: [Phono-L] Cleaning a phonograph. Wax removing.

2010-02-14 Thread Rich
The Spring Motor lid latch, one on each end is basically a flat spring screwed to the inside of the case with a button that is inserted from the outside and riveted to the spring so it can be pressed in to release the latch. Gabriel Marro wrote: Do you want to sell it? No. I've just bought

Re: [Phono-L] Cleaning a phonograph. Wax removing.

2010-02-14 Thread Steven Medved
Hello Greg, I cannot agree more. I put a spring in a plastic bag with WD-40 for long term storage and the spring rusted. WD-40 does nothing to help removing old grease and gasoline actually make it harder to remove. Molybdenum-disulfide performs the same function as graphite without the ab

[Phono-L] An Impossible Search

2010-02-14 Thread john robles
Good day all I am looking for something that is possibly impossible to find. I have been given an early Triumph B to clean up and get running. It has the shaving attachment, however the shaver itself and the little rod and head that it attaches to is gone. What are the chances of finding that pa

Re: [Phono-L] Cleaning a phonograph. Wax removing/serial#

2010-02-14 Thread AllenAmet
In a message dated 2/14/2010 5:00:01 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, writes: "> My phonograph is a Spring Motor and I think it was bought in 1898 because of the record collection that was with it. Serial Number is 29251. " That serial number seems more like the year 1900.

Re: [Phono-L] Columbia 122 angle correct?

2010-02-14 Thread DanKj
It's because that isn't the original reproducer. The one shown simply won't work on this machine. . - Original Message - From: "Curt Angstman" To: Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 2:11 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Columbia 122 angle correct? Looking at the leaning reproducer again,

Re: [Phono-L] Cleaning a phonograph. Wax removing.

2010-02-14 Thread Steven Medved
I always soak the springs until the dried grease and graphite are easily removed. I remove the springs, wipe them down and make sure they are clean and have no cracks, then I reinstall them greasing as I go. That is the best job because you ensure reliability. > From: vinyl.visi...@live.co

Re: [Phono-L] Cleaning a phonograph. Wax removing.

2010-02-14 Thread Mike Tucker
This is a serial number for a late Spring Motor machine and likely the only reference to this on the machine would be the plate on the front with "Spring Motor For Phonograph" in front of the mandrel. The Spring Motor machines have a nickel plated brass button which is held in place by a "T" s

Re: [Phono-L] Cleaning a phonograph. Wax removing.

2010-02-14 Thread Greg Bogantz
I wish people would stop recommending WD-40 as an all-purpose lubricant. It is particularly UNSUITABLE for lubricating fine mechanisms with small parts. It was originally designed as a waterproofing agent, hence, it's name "WD-40" refers to the fact that it is a "water displacement" product

Re: [Phono-L] Cleaning a phonograph. Wax removing.

2010-02-14 Thread Gabriel Marro
> > > Does it have a model number on the tag? I am assuming that this is a cylinder > type Edison machine? As I have said before, it is an EDISON SPRING-MOTOR with BETTINI reproducer and recorder. Very similar to this one: http://www.coleccionfb.com/Edison-Bettini.htm Gabriel.

Re: [Phono-L] Columbia 122 angle correct?

2010-02-14 Thread Curt Angstman
Looking at the leaning reproducer again, I noticed that the needlebar is the part that is leaning. Is there a needlebar adjustment on this reproducer, like on a Victor machine? > From: vinyl.visi...@live.com > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 13:41:03 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Pho

Re: [Phono-L] Cleaning a phonograph. Wax removing.

2010-02-14 Thread Gabriel Marro
> Do you want to sell it? > No. I've just bought it and want to restore. Gabriel ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org

Re: [Phono-L] Cleaning a phonograph. Wax removing.

2010-02-14 Thread Curt Angstman
I misunderstood your description. Yes, I know about this machine, but not how to fix the latches. > From: gabrielma...@telefonica.net > Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 19:59:20 +0100 > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Cleaning a phonograph. Wax removing. > > > > > > > > Does it have

Re: [Phono-L] Columbia 122 angle correct?

2010-02-14 Thread Curt Angstman
When examining both pictures, you will notice that the reproducers are different, even though they appear to have the same cutout pattern. The one that leans looks like it is larger than the other - maybe not significantly - but just enough to skew the angle. Curt > Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010

Re: [Phono-L] Cleaning a phonograph. Wax removing.

2010-02-14 Thread Curt Angstman
I think I know which model you are talking about - it does not have obvious latches on the outside. Since I have not seen one in person, I don't know anything about the mechanism. Do you want to sell it? Curt > From: gabrielma...@telefonica.net > Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 18:33:29 +0100 > To:

Re: [Phono-L] Cleaning a phonograph. Wax removing.

2010-02-14 Thread Curt Angstman
Does it have a model number on the tag? I am assuming that this is a cylinder type Edison machine? > From: gabrielma...@telefonica.net > Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 18:33:29 +0100 > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Cleaning a phonograph. Wax removing. > > My phonograph is a Spring

Re: [Phono-L] Cleaning a phonograph. Wax removing.

2010-02-14 Thread Gabriel Marro
My phonograph is a Spring Motor and I think it was bought in 1898 because of the record collection that was with it. Serial Number is 29251. Latches are not like the ones in the photo nor like the standard. In this spring motor, latches are automatic with (I suppouse) springs or something like s

Re: [Phono-L] Cleaning a phonograph. Wax removing.

2010-02-14 Thread Curt Angstman
Here is a link to see latches on a "suitcase" Home: http://www.worldofgramophones.com/edisonhome.html Here's another: http://www.edisontinfoil.com/home1456.htm > From: gabrielma...@telefonica.net > Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 15:34:36 +0100 > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Clean

Re: [Phono-L] Cleaning a phonograph. Wax removing.

2010-02-14 Thread Curt Angstman
For the latches - are you talking about the ones that slide in from the side to keep the lid on - like on a Standard? Or are you talking about an early "suitcase Home" which has latches like a toolbox or lunchbox? What Model is your phonograph? Curt > From: gabrielma...@telefonica.net > Date

Re: [Phono-L] Cleaning a phonograph. Wax removing.

2010-02-14 Thread Curt Angstman
Yes, if you want the best job, you have to open the spring barrels - don't remove the springs - and pack some grease around the springs. Any good grease will work. It will keep the sprinngs from clunking and making noise when playing. Curt > From: gabrielma...@telefonica.net > Date: Sun, 14

Re: [Phono-L] Columbia 122 angle correct?

2010-02-14 Thread Chris Kocsis
There is something wrong. Regardless of whether it is the correct tone arm for the machine, or the correct reproducer, the shaft of the needle must be straight up and down when viewed from the front. It should never lean into the groove at a sideways angle. Period. Chris Keith Wright wrot

Re: [Phono-L] Columbia 122 angle correct?

2010-02-14 Thread Keith Wright
It looks like it. I have now included a side picture the owner sent. http://keithwright.ca/columbia122/columbiaport122%20angle.html Compare to another 122 shown below. The owner of this one has not replied to a request for more pictures. http://keithwright.ca/columbia122/columbiaport122.ht

Re: [Phono-L] Cleaning a phonograph. Wax removing.

2010-02-14 Thread Gabriel Marro
> I can't help with the parts, but what do you mean by "click-fitting" system. > Are you talking about the latches on an early Edison? > > > > Hope this helps, Thanks for your help. And YES, I am talking about latches. Excuse my poor english. I can say latches in spanish with more than twenty

Re: [Phono-L] Cleaning a phonograph. Wax removing.

2010-02-14 Thread Curt Angstman
Hi Gabriel, For basic motor cleaning, remove the motor from the machine and find a container large enough to fit it in. Fill the container with kerosene and let it soak for several days. Use a toothbrush to remove sludge from gears and small parts. Kerosene will not harm your motor and will

[Phono-L] Cleaning a phonograph. Wax removing.

2010-02-14 Thread Gabriel Marro
I have just begun to clean my old and dirty Edison Spring Motor and it is a very heavy work. Do any of you know what kind of product I can use to solve the wax and grease that is on all the surfaces of the phonograph? I don't want to damage the black paint nor the chrome finish of parts. Any id