Re: [Phono-L] Stubborn Governor Weights

2011-10-22 Thread Bob Maffit
It seems like the low temp on the heat guns would be as hot as the hair dryer and speed up the time however, one wouldn't want to exceed 500 to 750 at most. I didn't realize that say, 600 would melt lead. later Bob -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bo

Re: [Phono-L] Stubborn Governor Weights

2011-10-22 Thread Vinyl Visions
I have one that heats to 600 degrees... you can damage stuff with it and heating governor balls with one might cause them to melt, not to mention that lead fumes are not great for your health. That holds true for old lead paint, as well. > From: maff...@bresnan.net > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org >

Re: [Phono-L] Help - Stubborn governor weights

2011-10-22 Thread john robles
Hello all I used conglomerations of these methods and got the screws out of the weights with no damage, and installed the new springs. I hate having to do that job with that governor collar in the way! Thanks to everyone for your suggestions, that's the great thing about this site! Everyone work

Re: [Phono-L] Stubborn Governor Weights

2011-10-22 Thread Bob Maffit
tom: good point, I generally follow the same. *grin* Just to compare, I looked on E-bay after Steve's source got my curiosity. It seems they heat up to 500 to 1200 degrees? How hot does a hair dryer get to compare. Your story supports my concern as I would hate to start some grease, oil, or so

Re: [Phono-L] Stubborn Governor Weights

2011-10-22 Thread Tom Jordan
Bob, Sometimes slow and deliberate is the best way. Especially when working with valuable antiques. I once used a heat gun on an antique dresser handed down through my Family that I was stripping three coats of paint off of. One of my "ancestors" thought that it was a good idea to paint a beau

Re: [Phono-L] Stubborn Governor Weights

2011-10-22 Thread Bob Maffit
Steve: Do you know if this is the smallest in size they make? Also, how is the quality of this product? again, thanks Bob -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Steven Medved Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 7:29 PM To: p

Re: [Phono-L] Stubborn Governor Weights

2011-10-22 Thread Bob Maffit
Tom: thanks, I had heard of them however, I use a hair dryer mostly. Sometimes I get tired of it taking so long. Always wanted to try one. later Bob -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Tom Jordan Sent: Saturday, Octobe

Re: [Phono-L] Stubborn Governor Weights

2011-10-22 Thread Steven Medved
Examples of heat guns, we use them at work for work with wiring. Below are Harbor Freight models. They operate like a hair dryer but are much hotter and you can control the heat by the louver on the side. http://www.harborfreight.com/1500-watt-dual-temperature-heat-gun-572-1112-96289.html ht

Re: [Phono-L] Help - Stubborn governor weights

2011-10-22 Thread Andrew Baron
Nick & Melissa's method works well, and as she notes correct size is important. Naturally, it also makes it easier if you anchor the adjoining part (the weight in this case) in a vise. A piece of belt leather wrapped around the anchored part helps prevent scarring. I don't generally apply

Re: [Phono-L] Stubborn Governor Weights

2011-10-22 Thread Tom Jordan
A heat gun can be purchased at hardware stores and is used for stripping paint among other things. They have a higher heat output than a hair dryer and can cause damage or start a fire if not used properly. Tom -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@

Re: [Phono-L] Stubborn Governor Weights

2011-10-22 Thread Bob Maffit
Jerry: I use a hair dryer, what is a "heat gun"? where does one get one? later Bob -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of DeeDee Blais Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 2:06 PM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] S

Re: [Phono-L] Help - Stubborn governor weights

2011-10-22 Thread Andrew Baron
Hi John ~ A precision-fitting hollow ground screwdriver will solve most stubborn screw problems at the outset and save burring the screw slot as well. Andrew Baron On Oct 22, 2011, at 12:44 PM, john robles wrote: Thanks Melissa and Nick! Luckily the screw head is fairly deep, not like tho

[Phono-L] With Great Success, a Kiwi bought off Graig'slist! WOW

2011-10-22 Thread Mark Dawson
Craigslist is similar to New Zealands version of TradeMe. A very thoughtful soul, who subscribes to this list, sent me a link to Craigslist. A Victor machine was advertised. It turned out to be somthing I was after. After a while, I was begining to wonder! Then I got a reply! Was sent loads of s

Re: [Phono-L] Fraud Artists and Crooks descend on Craigslist

2011-10-22 Thread George
Well I'm sorry, but I was wrong about the louvers. All I have is a drawer for one of these beast. No cabinet, louvers or anything else. Picked it up at an auction one time. I was thinking I had the whole top portion of the desk. Thank you, George Vollema Great Lakes Antique Phonograph 5092 Muskeg

Re: [Phono-L] Stubborn Governor Weights

2011-10-22 Thread Darrell Lehman
Could we borrow Dee Dee's? On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 1:05 PM, DeeDee Blais wrote: > I like all the suggestions and would like to add how helpful a heat gun > might be. Those of you that know me, also know that I don't own a hairdryer > but I imagine it would also help. Jerry Blais >

[Phono-L] Stubborn Governor Weights

2011-10-22 Thread DeeDee Blais
I like all the suggestions and would like to add how helpful a heat gun might be.  Those of you that know me, also know that I don't own a hairdryer but I imagine it would also help.  Jerry Blais ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org

Re: [Phono-L] Help - Stubborn governor weights

2011-10-22 Thread john robles
Thanks Melissa and Nick! Luckily the screw head is fairly deep, not like those danged screws on the back of a Victrola no. 2 reproducer. I always manage to wreck one of the four!! John From: Melissa Ricci To: Antique Phonograph List Sent: Saturday, October 22

Re: [Phono-L] Help - Stubborn governor weights

2011-10-22 Thread Vinyl Visions
Spray them with a rust dissolver or soak the whole thing in kerosene for a few hours. Then, make sure you use the correct screwdriver... a gun screwdriver set or micro screwdriver set is best. To get some extra torque on the screw, use vise grips fastened to the screwdriver shaft using one hand

Re: [Phono-L] Help - Stubborn governor weights

2011-10-22 Thread Ron L'Herault
Sometimes you can get the spring to move a bit by grasping the weight and turning the spring. This usually frees up the screw too. Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of john robles Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011

Re: [Phono-L] Help - Stubborn governor weights

2011-10-22 Thread Melissa Ricci
Hi John, Nick and I have had great success getting those stubborn screws out with this easy method. Use the correct size screwdriver which is quite small. Attach a pair of vise-grips to the screwdriver handle and use the grips to turn the screwdriver as you apply pressure. It works every time fo

Re: [Phono-L] Fraud Artists and Crooks descend on Craigslist

2011-10-22 Thread Rich
Well you can aways send them the money with a cashiers check drawn on the West Bank of the Missouri. On 10/22/2011 12:21 PM, Darrell Lehman wrote: But it's so much fun "dialoguing" with these guys. Their grammar... grammer... gramma... and syntax is so poor it's almost stand-up. Glean what you

[Phono-L] Help - Stubborn governor weights

2011-10-22 Thread john robles
Hello all I need to replace the governor springs on a Victor II. I have removed the weights and springs from the shaft, but the small screws that connect the weight to the springs will not budge. What do you all recommend to get them loose? They are really tight and I don't want to strip the scr

Re: [Phono-L] Fraud Artists and Crooks descend on Craigslist

2011-10-22 Thread Darrell Lehman
But it's so much fun "dialoguing" with these guys. Their grammar... grammer... gramma... and syntax is so poor it's almost stand-up. Glean what you can from my experience I corresponded with a "buyer" and received a $3000 CASHIER'S CHECK via Overnight UPS for a $300 set of tools I listed

Re: [Phono-L] Fraud Artists and Crooks descend on Craigslist

2011-10-22 Thread Rich
There are a million solutions to that problem. I would not be using my main e-mail address fro an initial cragslist account either. On 10/22/2011 10:07 AM, Rick Mazur wrote: Remember when you receive the scammer's initial question he/she has no idea what your personal email address is unless y

Re: [Phono-L] Fraud Artists and Crooks descend on Craigslist

2011-10-22 Thread The Farmers
But, just replying Yes or No does very little to get the sale going. It just would require a legitimate buyer to have to ask more questions and drags out the process. For a much better response I'd include my phone number, address, when a good time might be to pick it up, plus anything else I mi

Re: [Phono-L] Fraud Artists and Crooks descend on Craigslist

2011-10-22 Thread Rick Mazur
Remember when you receive the scammer's initial question he/she has no idea what your personal email address is unless you put your personal email address on your craigslist posting. All he or she sees is your craigslist email address designated for that item. Once you reply to the scammer he/sh

Re: [Phono-L] Fraud Artists and Crooks descend on Craigslist

2011-10-22 Thread Rich
The only reply recommended/required to the question "is this item still available?" is Yes or No. If that pomps the Nigerian scammer reply then the delete key works well. One of the problems with selling just about anything is if you really intend to sell it you will be in contact with people

Re: [Phono-L] Fraud Artists and Crooks descend on Craigslist

2011-10-22 Thread William Zucca
Sure, but what's the point of engaging in discussion with a scam artist. Not knowing what was going on the first time this happened to me I did just that and got a lot of double-talk back from the scammer. GrnMountainMill On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 9:12 AM, Rich wrote: > If someone sends you an e-

Re: [Phono-L] Fraud Artists and Crooks descend on Craigslist

2011-10-22 Thread Rick Mazur
Yes. This is what I tried to explain in my 2 emails... -Original Message- From: Vinyl Visions To: phono-l Sent: Sat, Oct 22, 2011 8:53 am Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fraud Artists and Crooks descend on Craigslist ou are right, anyone with an interest would include a phone number or e

Re: [Phono-L] Fraud Artists and Crooks descend on Craigslist

2011-10-22 Thread Rich
If someone sends you an e-mail question regarding your Craigslist For Sale item you have their e-mail address already, just hit reply, type your answer, and hit send. On 10/22/2011 07:38 AM, Vinyl Visions wrote: You are right, anyone with an interest would include a phone number or email addr

Re: [Phono-L] Fraud Artists and Crooks descend on Craigslist

2011-10-22 Thread William Zucca
Yes, I think it is. When I first started listing stuff on craigslist, nearly every single item resulted in some sort of stupid message like that along with some really dumb ones in bad English saying something like they would be sending their representative to pick up the item and would pay with s

Re: [Phono-L] Fraud Artists and Crooks descend on Craigslist

2011-10-22 Thread Vinyl Visions
You are right, anyone with an interest would include a phone number or email address... this is weird. It sounds like some type of "phishing" scam to get your info. > From: g...@usfamily.net > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 23:44:40 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fraud Artist