Re: [PHP-DEV] DB Abstraction

2002-04-03 Thread Kristian Köhntopp
Lukas Smith wrote: > With overhead I mean you have a another object that first > builds the query that in turn creates a DB abstraction > layer object ... There is more to layer 3 than you imply here, especially if you venture on into the land of user interfaces represented by objects and coupl

Re: [PHP-DEV] DB Abstraction

2002-04-03 Thread Kristian Köhntopp
Lukas Smith wrote: > I would disagree there. A query builder could do a lot > of stuff much nicer than a DB abstraction layer could > do. A query builder could make much better use of > RDBMS specific features than a DB abstraction layer > could. A query builder can build the query from > "scr

Re: [PHP-DEV] DB Abstraction - db_oo - the query builder

2002-03-31 Thread Alan Knowles
As a side note to this, I did another major overhall to my query builder/ simplified db access layer, db_oo - and put up a small amount of documentation, although there is a small amount of mysql dependance in there, it's not impossible to remove... http://www.akbkhome.com/Projects/db_oo%20-%2

Re: [PHP-DEV] DB Abstraction

2002-03-31 Thread Marc Boeren
Hi > What PHP really needs is a common C API for (1) and possibly (2) that > the database extensions themselves provide. That way there would be no > need for additional layers written in PHP or piggyback hacks like dbx > (sorry Marc :). Don't worry, I know what it is, it is still useful to me

RE: [PHP-DEV] DB Abstraction

2002-03-31 Thread Lukas Smith
30 83 22 50 07 www.dybnet.de [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ > -Original Message- > From: John Lim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 6:19 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] DB Abstraction > > Hi Lukas, >

Re: [PHP-DEV] DB Abstraction

2002-03-30 Thread John Lim
Hi Lukas, Actually a query builder is an add-on. There should be no overhead at all to the db abstraction layer. Bye, John Lukas Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 006701c1d84c$795d5b40$4d00a8c0@vandal">news:006701c1d84c$795d5b40$4d00a8c0@vandal... A query builder on top of a DB abstr

RE: [PHP-DEV] DB Abstraction

2002-03-30 Thread Lukas Smith
> 1. common API > 2. feature compatibility layer (easy query rewrites, type abstraction, >handling slightly different usage paradigms such as mysql's >auto_increment vs. real sequences, etc.) > 3. query builders, schema management, etc. (basically everything that >can be done by wrappi

Re: [PHP-DEV] DB Abstraction

2002-03-30 Thread Stig S. Bakken
On Fri, 2002-03-29 at 13:01, Daniel Lorch wrote: > Hi, > > I'm a bit confused about the ongoing projects aiming towards a > standard for database abstraction in PHP. There is DBA > [ http://php.net/dba ], PEAR DB and a project by l0t3k (and > many, many more). > > So what is going to be "the sta

RE: [PHP-DEV] DB Abstraction

2002-03-29 Thread Lukas Smith
Hi, well I want to add "PEAR MDB" to the list (which maintained by me). In case you have not heard about this project: it’s a merge between Metabase and PEAR DB, which if it becomes performant, clean and stable enough will probably replace PEAR DB. I also think that being able to extend the abst

Re: [PHP-DEV] DB Abstraction

2002-03-29 Thread Daniel Lorch
Hi silly me, > DBA [ http://php.net/dba ] [..] I meant DBX http://php.net/dbx Daniel -- PHP Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php