Re: Aura (et al.) are not joining

2016-10-01 Thread Roman Tsjupa
That was no accusation, I actually have no bone to pick with Paul, so you are really misintepreting it. What I had in mind is that he can still be involved with the PSRs and just ignore everytging else going around. On Oct 1, 2016 21:33, "Marcus Pettersen Irgens" < marcus.pettersen.irg...@gmail.c

Re: [Discussion][Internals] Remove the Interface suffix from PSR naming conventions

2016-08-18 Thread Roman Tsjupa
> That's just replacing a suffix with a prefix. Zero sum game. Yup, but it leaves the choice to the developer, which imho is a good thing. On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 5:09 PM, Daniel Plainview wrote: > HttpRequest is not good name, because Request from PSR-7 is already > HTTP-request. > > However,

Re: [Discussion][Internals] Remove the Interface suffix from PSR naming conventions

2016-08-17 Thread Roman Tsjupa
It is not about being right or wrong really. Its more about being strict for no good reason. Its a backwards compatible change, so if you like you can still suffix your interfaces. There is no more reason to force the suffix than there would be a reason to force an 'Abstract' prefix or whatever.

Re: Switch to forum software?

2016-08-08 Thread Roman Tsjupa
this uptime is pretty important. > Something being down for a few hours is actually a big deal for distributed > teams. > > On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 4:38 AM, Roman Tsjupa > wrote: > >> > A forum is a single point of failure. If the forum is down I cannot >> read any me

Re: Switch to forum software?

2016-08-08 Thread Roman Tsjupa
separate category for PSRs and a separate one for off-topic drama, and you could subscribe only to the first one, wouldn't that be awesome? On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 1:29 PM, Alessandro Pellizzari wrote: > On 08/08/2016 10:14, Roman Tsjupa wrote: > > Downloading an email is 20-30

Re: Switch to forum software?

2016-08-08 Thread Roman Tsjupa
> Downloading an email is 20-30 KB. Opening a forum page could be 1MB or more. Honestly this is kind of a ridiculous argument. But even if you consider it, still a forum page is not 1MB per page, the css and js files will get cached after your first request, so browsing subsequent pages won't requ

Re: Switch to forum software?

2016-07-13 Thread Roman Tsjupa
Even if we can't get the forum with all the features in one go, at least it will have some features. We could just keep using regular messages for voting until something is implemented. On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 6:25 AM, 'scott molinari' via PHP Framework Interoperability Group wrote: > Ah, Xenfor

Re: [Internal] [Discussion] Paul M Jones

2016-07-09 Thread Roman Tsjupa
One thing where the vote might be usesful is as a display of opinion even without a bylaw. E.g. if 80% if people in a group dont like you, there is really no pount in staying. But i dont think that people who want Paul out are even 30% od the group On Jul 9, 2016 12:32, "Lukas Kahwe Smith" wrote:

Re: The CLI interface PSR brainstorm

2016-07-07 Thread Roman Tsjupa
Well of course it works if you also install Symfony Console. But what if the framework already has a different command line api stack? There are also some nice added benefits for abstracting the CLI out, like say running a server on a socket that talks to multiple clients where each socket is repre

Re: The CLI interface PSR brainstorm

2016-07-07 Thread Roman Tsjupa
Sure, actually I already did in this thread. Look at doctrine migrations provider for silex: https://github.com/kurlltd/silex-doctrine-migrations-provider If the CLI is standardized as an interface the next step would be standardizing the Command interfaces, making such glue classes unneeded, and a

Re: [Internal] [Discussion] Paul M Jones

2016-07-06 Thread Roman Tsjupa
Who would decide on the strikes then? On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 12:08 PM, Alessandro Pellizzari wrote: > On 05/07/2016 18:57, Paul Jones wrote: > > Dear Voting Representatives, >> >> My name is Paul M. Jones; I am one of the founders of this group. >> > > Even hating the "legal speaking" and the "l

Re: [Internal] [Discussion] Paul M Jones

2016-07-06 Thread Roman Tsjupa
It has been 12 days and over 70 posts. Can we all agree that there simply isn't enough push for this to pass anyway and lock this thread? The only thing the vote would achieve at this point is ignite reddit and twitter for 3 days, cause some posts of people making fun of the FIG and not pass anyway

Re: [Internal] [Discussion] Paul M Jones

2016-07-05 Thread Roman Tsjupa
Keith, can you elaborate on the topic of "sexualized attacks" ? On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 4:08 PM, Keith Casey wrote: > I agree with the large majority of people on this thread. > > Paul’s obsession with another person on this list is bizarre. I’ve > witnessed numerous blog posts, dozens of attacki

Re: [Internal] [Discussion] Paul M Jones

2016-06-30 Thread Roman Tsjupa
There are really no victims here besides from Paul who is being attacked. Paul, while having strong opinions and arguing a lot, has not done anything that would warrant calling anyone a "victim". And yes, if you engage into a heated argument on the internet it can be taxing, of course. But calling

Re: [Internal] [Discussion] Paul M Jones

2016-06-26 Thread Roman Tsjupa
Larry, from your post, it sound like the actual topic of the proposed vote would be actually banning Paul from the mailing list altogether? > I am reasonably sure we'd all agree that person needed to be kicked from the list and forbidden from returning. There is some threshold of behavior past wh

Re: [Internal] [Discussion] Paul M Jones

2016-06-25 Thread Roman Tsjupa
As a side note, since throttling is coming up so frequent lately I just want to remind you guys that we're developers here. We can finally build a platform that enforces throttling on a technical level, like reddit does. Almost every forum software has this feature. This would solve ALL the problem

Re: [Internal] [Discussion] Paul M Jones

2016-06-24 Thread Roman Tsjupa
Here goes: > When people talk to me about the FIG recently, and even not so recently, it's usually to talk about drama and Paul. People talk about drama because they like talking about it, and it is way more entertaining. Sans the drama a lot of people wouldn't have much to say about the FIG anyw