Re: Resigning My Position ...

2016-09-13 Thread Korvin Szanto
Hi All, First of all, I want to apologize to everyone for the content of this email. My hope is that it won't seemtoo critical and instead will read how I intended. Here's a list of my positions: 1. This thread is depressing 2. People on every side need to take a step back and chill 3. PSR-8 i

Re: Resigning My Position ...

2016-09-12 Thread Adam Culp
Larry, Please do not partially quote me. Your partial quote of my words creates a much different connotation than what was stated, which based on your follow-up comment was obviously the intent. The complete thought, which should have included "really shouldn't be happening, in this case, becau

Re: Resigning My Position ...

2016-09-12 Thread Jordi Boggiano
As a person that has spent the last couple weeks looking at this thread and others, feeling I should call Paul's BS many times, and not doing it because frankly I don't have the energy and rather spend it on other stuff, I can indeed confirm all this shit is driving people away. Paul seems ben

Re: Resigning My Position ...

2016-09-12 Thread Larry Garfield
Fellow FIG list members, we have been trolled. PSR-8 is a non-issue, non-entity, with no activity. It was an April Fools joke cum running gag, in which Paul was an active participant as Sponsor. Why did Paul bring it up right now? Of all times? And with an obviously baiting subject line? It

Re: Resigning My Position ...

2016-09-12 Thread Alessandro Lai
I totally agree with Jason. Also, it may conflict with the fact that the PSRs are released under MIT license. Il giorno lunedì 12 settembre 2016 12:19:05 UTC+2, Jason Judge ha scritto: > > On Friday, 9 September 2016 15:53:28 UTC+1, pmjones wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >&

Re: Resigning My Position ...

2016-09-12 Thread Jason Judge
On Friday, 9 September 2016 15:53:28 UTC+1, pmjones wrote: > > Hi all, > > I am resigning my position as sponsor of PSR-8, the "Huggable" Interface. > This was a fun joke way-back-when, but its time has passed. > > And if I may suggest it, perhaps the editor sho

Re: Resigning My Position ...

2016-09-11 Thread Daniel Hunsaker
On Sunday, September 11, 2016 at 8:44:29 AM UTC-6, Alexander Deruwe wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 4:05 PM, Adam Culp > wrote: > > Let's stop applying the rules of "serious" PSRs to such a thing and > > get rid of it. > > This. It's so obvious, please. > It's also a very dangerous precede

Re: Resigning My Position ...

2016-09-11 Thread Alexander Deruwe
On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 4:05 PM, Adam Culp wrote: > Let's stop applying the rules of "serious" PSRs to such a thing and > get rid of it. This. It's so obvious, please. A. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "PHP Framework Interoperability Group" group

Re: Resigning My Position ...

2016-09-11 Thread Adam Culp
Samantha, I think you and Michael are applying a certain "tone", and taking offense, with Paul's question of whether the group was aware and involved in what could have been a decision making discussion, or if it was only the secretaries. This is a voting members right to ask. Paul, and others,

Re: Resigning My Position ...

2016-09-10 Thread Paul Jones
Samantha, > On Sep 10, 2016, at 20:42, Samantha Quiñones wrote: > > Paul, > > I already talked about this in the other thread. Continually antagonizing > Michael is not an appropriate way of addressing whatever issues you may have > with the way he conducts himself as a secretary of this orga

Re: Resigning My Position ...

2016-09-10 Thread Samantha Quiñones
Paul, I already talked about this in the other thread. Continually antagonizing Michael is not an appropriate way of addressing whatever issues you may have with the way he conducts himself as a secretary of this organization. Likewise, attempting to press your definition of our role as secreta

Re: Resigning My Position ...

2016-09-10 Thread Chris Tankersley
We could come up with a bylaw that handles both abandonment as well as a voluntary withdrawal. We just need to define that as a status for a PSR. I'm not against enacting a bylaw for abandonment/withdrawal as I was very much behind the original abandonment rules, I'm just pointing out that it has

Re: Resigning My Position ...

2016-09-10 Thread Paul Jones
Hi Chris, > On Sep 9, 2016, at 10:25, Chris Tankersley wrote: > > You were in the room at ZendCon 2015's FIG meeting when we brought up the > whole abandonment issue and how we should handle it. The notes are here: > > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/php-fig/FIG$20Zendcon%7Csort:re

Re: Resigning My Position ...

2016-09-09 Thread Daniel Hunsaker
> > > We [secretaries] discussed PSR-8 a while back and we've also been part > of numerous conversations with Larry [PSR-8 Editor] and other folks and we > came to the conclusion that it doesn't appear there is really a way to > withdraw PSRs for the moment. > > Interesting; was that brought u

Re: Resigning My Position ...

2016-09-09 Thread Michael Cullum
We were discussing the status of various PSRs so we could see what resources they needed and the like in one of our first monthly meetings and when PSR-8 came up, we were aware it was stuck in Limbo (because of it's nature) so we contacted the Editor [Larry] to discuss what he wanted to do regardin

Re: Resigning My Position ...

2016-09-09 Thread Chris Tankersley
On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 11:13 AM, Paul Jones wrote: > > > On Sep 9, 2016, at 10:08, Michael Cullum wrote: > > > > We [secretaries] discussed PSR-8 a while back and we've also been part > of numerous conversations with Larry [PSR-8 Editor] and other folks and we > came to the conclusion that it do

Re: Resigning My Position ...

2016-09-09 Thread Michael Cullum
erent > environment today if we had a few more hugs. > > On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 7:53 AM Paul Jones wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I am resigning my position as sponsor of PSR-8, the "Huggable" Interface. >> This was a fun joke way-back-when, but its

Re: Resigning My Position ...

2016-09-09 Thread Paul Jones
> On Sep 9, 2016, at 10:08, Michael Cullum wrote: > > We [secretaries] discussed PSR-8 a while back and we've also been part of > numerous conversations with Larry [PSR-8 Editor] and other folks and we came > to the conclusion that it doesn't appear there is really a way to withdraw > PSRs fo

Re: Resigning My Position ...

2016-09-09 Thread Korvin Szanto
If only this had passed an acceptance vote, maybe we'd have a different environment today if we had a few more hugs. On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 7:53 AM Paul Jones wrote: > Hi all, > > I am resigning my position as sponsor of PSR-8, the "Huggable" Interface. > This was a

Resigning My Position ...

2016-09-09 Thread Paul Jones
Hi all, I am resigning my position as sponsor of PSR-8, the "Huggable" Interface. This was a fun joke way-back-when, but its time has passed. And if I may suggest it, perhaps the editor should voluntarily withdraw the PSR from consideration. Thanks everyone! -- Paul M. Jones htt