Re: [PHP] Efficieny: Include vs Array vs Function

2004-03-16 Thread Rob Paxon
Jason Sheets wrote: Sometimes having less included files with more content is more efficient than having a lot of small files [...] I'd think in my case, this is true. Generally, nothing is in these main include files that aren't needed by every page. I'd suggest profiling your code, use the PEA

RE: [PHP] Efficieny: Include vs Array vs Function

2004-03-16 Thread Jason Sheets
> Rob Paxon >on Monday, March 15, 2004 9:24 PM said: > >> Bear with me while I dish out some details. My question concerns the >> efficiency of using multiple file includes versus storing segments of >> data in one include as arrays or functions. > > have you conside

RE: [PHP] Efficieny: Include vs Array vs Function

2004-03-16 Thread Chris W. Parker
Rob Paxon on Monday, March 15, 2004 9:24 PM said: > Bear with me while I dish out some details. My question concerns the > efficiency of using multiple file includes versus storing segments of > data in one include as arrays or functions. have you considered the si

Re: [PHP] Efficieny: Include vs Array vs Function

2004-03-16 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
If you are that concerned about it, "pear install apc". Your include files will be cached in memory and the only cost per include file is a single stat() system call and looking up the opcode cache in shared memory. -Rasmus -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit

Re: [PHP] Efficieny: Include vs Array vs Function

2004-03-16 Thread Raditha Dissanayake
Robert Cummings wrote: On Tue, 2004-03-16 at 05:11, Raditha Dissanayake wrote: As to using header and footer includes I found that system really frustrating trying to follow the html. What I have switched to is templates where the site layout is a template and each php page generates the conten

Re: [PHP] Efficieny: Include vs Array vs Function

2004-03-16 Thread Robert Cummings
On Tue, 2004-03-16 at 05:11, Raditha Dissanayake wrote: > > >> As to using header and footer includes I found that system really > >> frustrating trying to follow the html. What I have switched to is > >> templates where the site layout is a template and each php page > >> generates the content an

Re: [PHP] Efficieny: Include vs Array vs Function

2004-03-16 Thread Raditha Dissanayake
Hi, On a busy site (where the milliseconds start to matter) the chances are that the operating system has your include files cached so the load time is probably not a factor. If you install some of the php token caching systems (zend and others) the speed is even better. Gentlemen I do believe I

Re: [PHP] Efficieny: Include vs Array vs Function

2004-03-15 Thread Rob Paxon
I have used templating for specific projects in the past (and never really liked it), but for this group of sites I handle both ends, so it loses a lot of its worth. The factor of a caching system like Zend is something I have overlooked. Currently, I wouldn't assume my virtual host uses it,

Re: [PHP] Efficieny: Include vs Array vs Function

2004-03-15 Thread Tom Rogers
Hi, Tuesday, March 16, 2004, 3:23:35 PM, you wrote: RP> Pardon me if this subject has been discussed, but a search of the RP> archive didn't bring up much of anything. RP> Bear with me while I dish out some details. My question concerns the RP> efficiency of using multiple file includes versus

Re: [PHP] Efficieny: Include vs Array vs Function

2004-03-15 Thread Rob Paxon
Thanks for the reply. In my case there aren't many external files associated with the script. 1 css file per site and no images except on a few very specific pages. Adding images does not negate the shaved microseconds. I see what you mean, but it doesn't literally negate the saved load. Th

Re: [PHP] Efficieny: Include vs Array vs Function

2004-03-15 Thread Raditha Dissanayake
It is my understanding, as disk reads are so slow, that it is not a good idea to include multiple files. I always knew this, but I never really thought about it. Rob, you will find people who religiously avoid includes have pages that include dozens and dozens of images there by negating the m

[PHP] Efficieny: Include vs Array vs Function

2004-03-15 Thread Rob Paxon
Pardon me if this subject has been discussed, but a search of the archive didn't bring up much of anything. Bear with me while I dish out some details. My question concerns the efficiency of using multiple file includes versus storing segments of data in one include as arrays or functions. Wh