Re: [PHP] How php works?

2006-12-19 Thread Robert Cummings
On Tue, 2006-12-19 at 09:25 -0600, Larry Garfield wrote: > On Tuesday 19 December 2006 02:12, Robert Cummings wrote: > > > > Is that why the PHP License is non-GPL compatible, or is there a > > > different reason for that? (That's always bugged me, personally.) > > > > PHP and license has less re

RE: [PHP] How php works?

2006-12-19 Thread Kristen G. Thorson
> -Original Message- > From: Larry Garfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 10:26 AM > To: php-general@lists.php.net > Subject: Re: [PHP] How php works? > > On Tuesday 19 December 2006 02:12, Robert Cummings wrote: > > > > I

Re: [PHP] How php works?

2006-12-19 Thread Rory Browne
That's nice. It's also not what I asked. I asked what it was that made it GPL-incompatible. 6. Redistributions of any form whatsoever must retain the following acknowledgment: "This product includes PHP software, freely available from ". I don't re

Re: [PHP] How php works?

2006-12-19 Thread Larry Garfield
On Tuesday 19 December 2006 02:12, Robert Cummings wrote: > > Is that why the PHP License is non-GPL compatible, or is there a > > different reason for that? (That's always bugged me, personally.) > > PHP and license has less restrictions... it is not viral. You can for > the most part do as you

Re: [PHP] How php works?

2006-12-19 Thread Robert Cummings
On Mon, 2006-12-18 at 19:42 -0600, Larry Garfield wrote: > On Monday 18 December 2006 15:20, Richard Lynch wrote: > > > Put it this way: In 2000, if somebody wanted to embed the ZE in a > > commercial product, Zend was planning on charging for it. I dunno > > what their license for the ZE reads

Re: [PHP] How php works?

2006-12-18 Thread Larry Garfield
On Monday 18 December 2006 15:20, Richard Lynch wrote: > Put it this way: In 2000, if somebody wanted to embed the ZE in a > commercial product, Zend was planning on charging for it. I dunno > what their license for the ZE reads like today, and I wasn't > authorized to speak on this topic for th

Re: [PHP] How php works?

2006-12-18 Thread Robert Cummings
On Mon, 2006-12-18 at 15:20 -0600, Richard Lynch wrote: > On Sat, December 16, 2006 6:24 am, Robert Cummings wrote: > > On Sat, 2006-12-16 at 19:58 +0800, Kai Xiang wrote: > >> On 12/16/06, Richard Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > (*) > >> > Actually, if somebody wants to embed the ZE inside

Re: [PHP] How php works?

2006-12-18 Thread Richard Lynch
On Sat, December 16, 2006 6:24 am, Robert Cummings wrote: > On Sat, 2006-12-16 at 19:58 +0800, Kai Xiang wrote: >> On 12/16/06, Richard Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > (*) >> > Actually, if somebody wants to embed the ZE inside of something >> other >> > than PHP, then I think Zend expects to

Re: [PHP] How php works?

2006-12-17 Thread Robert Cummings
On Sun, 2006-12-17 at 14:41 +, Roman Neuhauser wrote: > # [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2006-12-16 09:52:18 -0500: > > On Sat, 2006-12-16 at 15:59 +, Roman Neuhauser wrote: > > > # [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2006-12-16 07:24:49 -0500: > > > > On Sat, 2006-12-16 at 19:58 +0800, Kai Xiang wrote: > > > > > On

Re: [PHP] How php works?

2006-12-17 Thread Roman Neuhauser
# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2006-12-16 09:52:18 -0500: > On Sat, 2006-12-16 at 15:59 +, Roman Neuhauser wrote: > > # [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2006-12-16 07:24:49 -0500: > > > On Sat, 2006-12-16 at 19:58 +0800, Kai Xiang wrote: > > > > On 12/16/06, Richard Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > (*) > >

Re: [PHP] How php works?

2006-12-16 Thread Robert Cummings
On Sat, 2006-12-16 at 15:59 +, Roman Neuhauser wrote: > # [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2006-12-16 07:24:49 -0500: > > On Sat, 2006-12-16 at 19:58 +0800, Kai Xiang wrote: > > > On 12/16/06, Richard Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > (*) > > > > Actually, if somebody wants to embed the ZE inside of

Re: [PHP] How php works?

2006-12-16 Thread Roman Neuhauser
# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2006-12-16 07:24:49 -0500: > On Sat, 2006-12-16 at 19:58 +0800, Kai Xiang wrote: > > On 12/16/06, Richard Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > (*) > > > Actually, if somebody wants to embed the ZE inside of something other > > > than PHP, then I think Zend expects to get pai

Re: [PHP] How php works?

2006-12-16 Thread Robert Cummings
On Sat, 2006-12-16 at 19:58 +0800, Kai Xiang wrote: > On 12/16/06, Richard Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > (*) > > Actually, if somebody wants to embed the ZE inside of something other > > than PHP, then I think Zend expects to get paid for that. I don't think so... the PHP and Zend licenses

Re: [PHP] How php works?

2006-12-16 Thread Kai Xiang
On 12/16/06, Richard Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Fri, December 15, 2006 3:32 am, Kai Xiang wrote: > Oh, that's interesting to know, is that from certain test of design > goals? I > suspect this for I thought the most time-consuming work in PHP should > be > compiling. The most time cons

Re: [PHP] How php works?

2006-12-15 Thread Richard Lynch
On Fri, December 15, 2006 3:32 am, Kai Xiang wrote: > Oh, that's interesting to know, is that from certain test of design > goals? I > suspect this for I thought the most time-consuming work in PHP should > be > compiling. The most time consuming work in PHP isn't in PHP at all. :-) It's in the d

Re: [PHP] How php works?

2006-12-15 Thread Kai Xiang
On 12/15/06, Richard Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, December 13, 2006 12:15 am, Kai Xiang wrote: > 1. I heard there is a zend engine inside PHP playing the role as a > virtual > machine, and PHP excution have 2 step, first compile to opcode and > then > excute the opcode, > so is that

Re: [PHP] How php works?

2006-12-14 Thread Richard Lynch
On Wed, December 13, 2006 12:15 am, Kai Xiang wrote: > 1. I heard there is a zend engine inside PHP playing the role as a > virtual > machine, and PHP excution have 2 step, first compile to opcode and > then > excute the opcode, > so is that means the php are compiled only once per file? or still >

Re: [PHP] How php works?

2006-12-13 Thread Kai Xiang
On 12/14/06, tedd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: At 2:15 PM +0800 12/13/06, Kai Xiang wrote: >Hello all: > >I'm new here and looking PHP these days, howerver , I'm confused by how it >works, and here is some questions I have. >Is there any old bird wanna help me out? Sure, which way did you come in

Re: [PHP] How php works?

2006-12-13 Thread Kai Xiang
Thanks Jochem, Roman :) On 12/13/06, Jochem Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Kai Xiang wrote: > On 12/13/06, Roman Neuhauser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> # [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2006-12-13 14:15:26 +0800: >> > I'm new here and looking PHP these days, howerver , I'm confused by how >> it >> > w

Re: [PHP] How php works?

2006-12-13 Thread tedd
At 2:15 PM +0800 12/13/06, Kai Xiang wrote: Hello all: I'm new here and looking PHP these days, howerver , I'm confused by how it works, and here is some questions I have. Is there any old bird wanna help me out? Sure, which way did you come in? You might want to ask one of the younger birds,

Re: [PHP] How php works?

2006-12-13 Thread Roman Neuhauser
# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2006-12-13 18:57:58 +0800: > On 12/13/06, Roman Neuhauser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ># [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2006-12-13 14:15:26 +0800: > >> 3. Take linux apache for example, if compiled as a apache module, > >> and using prefork threading model, for example, if I have 100 >

Re: [PHP] How php works?

2006-12-13 Thread Jochem Maas
Kai Xiang wrote: > On 12/13/06, Roman Neuhauser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> # [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2006-12-13 14:15:26 +0800: >> > I'm new here and looking PHP these days, howerver , I'm confused by how >> it >> > works, and here is some questions I have. >> > Is there any old bird wanna help m

Re: [PHP] How php works?

2006-12-13 Thread Kai Xiang
On 12/13/06, Jochem Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Kai Xiang wrote: > Hello all: > > I'm new here and looking PHP these days, howerver , I'm confused by how it > works, and here is some questions I have. > Is there any old bird wanna help me out? > > 1. I heard there is a zend engine inside PHP

Re: [PHP] How php works?

2006-12-13 Thread Kai Xiang
On 12/13/06, Roman Neuhauser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: # [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2006-12-13 14:15:26 +0800: > I'm new here and looking PHP these days, howerver , I'm confused by how it > works, and here is some questions I have. > Is there any old bird wanna help me out? > > 1. I heard there is a z

Re: [PHP] How php works?

2006-12-13 Thread Jochem Maas
Kai Xiang wrote: > Hello all: > > I'm new here and looking PHP these days, howerver , I'm confused by how it > works, and here is some questions I have. > Is there any old bird wanna help me out? > > 1. I heard there is a zend engine inside PHP playing the role as a virtual > machine, and PHP exc

Re: [PHP] How php works?

2006-12-13 Thread Roman Neuhauser
# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2006-12-13 14:15:26 +0800: > I'm new here and looking PHP these days, howerver , I'm confused by how it > works, and here is some questions I have. > Is there any old bird wanna help me out? > > 1. I heard there is a zend engine inside PHP playing the role as a virtual > mach

[PHP] How php works?

2006-12-12 Thread Kai Xiang
Hello all: I'm new here and looking PHP these days, howerver , I'm confused by how it works, and here is some questions I have. Is there any old bird wanna help me out? 1. I heard there is a zend engine inside PHP playing the role as a virtual machine, and PHP excution have 2 step, first compile