Re: [PHP] https question

2013-09-25 Thread Daniel Brown
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Tedd Sperling wrote: > Hi gang: > > I have a client who had his entire site moved to another host -- no big > problem. > > However, the old site had a https directory, where I had secure scripts to do > credit-card transactions, but the new site doesn't have a ht

Re: [PHP] https question

2013-09-25 Thread Joshua Kehn
On Sep 25, 2013, at 2:24 PM, Tedd Sperling wrote: > > I understand that cc processing should be done via https. > > Normally, that means to me that I place my $ scripts in a https directory -- > the problem is that I don't have one with this host. > > So, I am asking how does one do that with

Re: [PHP] https question

2013-09-25 Thread Tedd Sperling
On Sep 25, 2013, at 1:58 PM, Joshua Kehn wrote: > On Sep 25, 2013, at 1:55 PM, Tedd Sperling wrote: > >> Hi gang: >> >> I have a client who had his entire site moved to another host -- no big >> problem. >> >> However, the old site had a https directory, where I had secure scripts to >> do

Re: [PHP] https question

2013-09-25 Thread Joshua Kehn
On Sep 25, 2013, at 1:55 PM, Tedd Sperling wrote: > Hi gang: > > I have a client who had his entire site moved to another host -- no big > problem. > > However, the old site had a https directory, where I had secure scripts to do > credit-card transactions, but the new site doesn't have a htt

Re: [PHP] https help

2011-05-31 Thread Negin Nickparsa
Thank you

Re: [PHP] https help

2011-05-31 Thread Tamara Temple
On May 31, 2011, at 12:34 AM, Negin Nickparsa wrote: I need to create a login page with HTTPS to yahoo Do I have to have a valid certificate? I have not trust certification centre, so before anything under HTTPS will be shown up, the window will come with information: valid certificate: y

Re: [PHP] https help

2011-05-30 Thread viraj
yahoo don't have ssl enabled on all their content it seems. http://privacy.yahoo.com/privacy/us/security/details.html ~viraj On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Negin Nickparsa wrote: > it is the output: > http://www.yahoo.com/?s=https > > can i force it to show me > https://www.yahoo.com > > ?

Re: [PHP] https help

2011-05-30 Thread Negin Nickparsa
it is the output: http://www.yahoo.com/?s=https can i force it to show me https://www.yahoo.com ?

Re: [PHP] https help

2011-05-30 Thread Negin Nickparsa
I need to create a login page with HTTPS to yahoo Do I have to have a valid certificate? I have not trust certification centre, so before anything under HTTPS will be shown up, the window will come with information: valid certificate: yes, valid domain: yes, valid authority for SSL key: no. am I

RE: [PHP] https help

2011-05-30 Thread admin
Negin, That is pretty vague. More details please Richard L. Buskirk Senior Software Engineer/Systems Administrator You can't grow your business with systems that are on life support... -Original Message- From: Negin Nickparsa [mailto:nickpa...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, May 3

Re: [PHP] HTTPS SSL

2010-09-02 Thread Gaurav Kumar
Jordan, Do you have a shared hosting? i.e. you must have hosted your site/page on some server. Most of the hosting server these days provide you with the feature of installing SSL certificate. So what you need is- Buy a SSL certificate from a vendor. There are so many of them available these da

Re: [PHP] HTTPS SSL

2010-09-02 Thread Andy McKenzie
Jordan, Bostjan hit the main points, but if you're trying to run a secure server, you probably ought to know more about it than you do now. It's pretty easy to arrange a secure connection that isn't actually secure if you don't know what you're doing. I'd recommend a good Apache book -- I have

Re: [PHP] HTTPS SSL

2010-09-02 Thread Bostjan Skufca
You should look up something like "openssl how to create self signed certificate" on google. Once cert is created, you should look up "apache ssl howto". The rest is just following instructions intelligently. Or use a consulting company. b. PS: This has nothing to do with PHP, in case you haven't

Re: [PHP] HTTPS

2010-08-01 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Sun, 2010-08-01 at 13:29 +0200, Jordan Jovanov wrote: > Hello > > I have one web page with hhtp protocol, but i need to change in https. > Do you somebody know does is easy and can i do? > Does need to write some php scripts or anything. > > Thanks a lot. > You need to set up a security ce

Re: [PHP] https setup

2009-06-06 Thread Michael A. Peters
PJ wrote: Don't forget, you have to have a certificate, real or dummy for this to work. :-) Note that Firefox makes things difficult for non tech users with self signed certs, so for a live site open to the public, you really do want to spend the dough on a certificate from an authority.

Re: [PHP] https setup

2009-06-05 Thread PJ
Shanon Swafford wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: PJ [mailto:af.gour...@videotron.ca] >> Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 3:59 PM >> To: php-general@lists.php.net >> Subject: [PHP] https setup >> >> Can't find anything on G or web - but I probably didn't try hard enough. >> I am unable to

Re: [PHP] https setup

2009-06-05 Thread PJ
Per Jessen wrote: > PJ wrote: > > >> Can't find anything on G or web - but I probably didn't try hard >> enough. >> > > Correct :-) > > >> I am unable to set my virtual hosts to handle https. >> I have apache22, mod_ssl, opnenssl and the httpd and httpd-vhosts.conf >> files are set up

Re: [PHP] https setup

2009-06-05 Thread PJ
Michael A. Peters wrote: > PJ wrote: >> Can't find anything on G or web - but I probably didn't try hard enough. >> I am unable to set my virtual hosts to handle https. >> I have apache22, mod_ssl, opnenssl and the httpd and httpd-vhosts.conf >> files are set up "correctly" but directing a sensitiv

Re: [PHP] https setup

2009-06-05 Thread Michael A. Peters
PJ wrote: Can't find anything on G or web - but I probably didn't try hard enough. I am unable to set my virtual hosts to handle https. I have apache22, mod_ssl, opnenssl and the httpd and httpd-vhosts.conf files are set up "correctly" but directing a sensitive user information page to an HTTPS p

Re: [PHP] https setup

2009-06-05 Thread Per Jessen
PJ wrote: > Can't find anything on G or web - but I probably didn't try hard > enough. Correct :-) > I am unable to set my virtual hosts to handle https. > I have apache22, mod_ssl, opnenssl and the httpd and httpd-vhosts.conf > files are set up "correctly" but directing a sensitive user > inf

Re: [PHP] https and Credit Cards

2009-04-15 Thread דניאל דנון
You are right - Decline the job, you don't want any credit-card stealing on your head On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Richard Heyes wrote: > Hi, > > > To add to what others have said: CC processors with which I have worked > will > > audit your site *before* certifying your site to accept CC in

Re: [PHP] https and Credit Cards

2009-04-15 Thread Richard Heyes
Hi, > To add to what others have said: CC processors with which I have worked will > audit your site *before* certifying your site to accept CC information. In > other words, if you don't do SSL, you won't be *allowed* to process cards. FWIW, companies exist that will host your "buy" page(s), so

Re: [PHP] https and Credit Cards

2009-04-14 Thread phphelp -- kbk
On Apr 13, 2009, at 10:19 PM, Skip Evans wrote: But doesn't also the form need to be secure since you're sending CC information from that form back to the web site's server? That's what I've always assumed. I need some opinions on this, and if I'm right I think the client will defer to a f

Re: [PHP] https and Credit Cards

2009-04-14 Thread Leonard Burton
Sounds like your client wants to end up listed in a Terminated Merchant File. On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:19 PM, Skip Evans wrote: > Hey all, > > I've always put any forms that collect credit card information behind a > secure connection, https, figuring that sending that information from the > c

Re: [PHP] https and Credit Cards

2009-04-14 Thread Andrew Ballard
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:19 PM, Skip Evans wrote: > Hey all, > > I've always put any forms that collect credit card information behind a > secure connection, https, figuring that sending that information from the > client browser to the server should be secure, but I'm having convincing a > clie

Re: [PHP] https and Credit Cards

2009-04-14 Thread Richard Heyes
Hi, > I've always put any forms that collect credit card information behind a > secure connection, https, figuring that sending that information from the > client browser to the server should be secure, but I'm having convincing a > client that it is necessary. > > He instead insists that only the

Re: [PHP] https and Credit Cards

2009-04-13 Thread Paul M Foster
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 10:19:34PM -0500, Skip Evans wrote: > Hey all, > > I've always put any forms that collect credit card information > behind a secure connection, https, figuring that sending that > information from the client browser to the server should be > secure, but I'm having convincin

Re: [PHP] https forced redirect question

2008-02-15 Thread Jim Lucas
Robert Cummings wrote: On Fri, 2008-02-15 at 15:05 -0500, Robert Cummings wrote: On Fri, 2008-02-15 at 14:58 -0500, nihilism machine wrote: why isnt this redirecting my page to https://www.mydomain.com instead the page stays at my domain.com checkHTTPS(); $this->checkWWW();

Re: [PHP] https forced redirect question

2008-02-15 Thread Robert Cummings
On Fri, 2008-02-15 at 15:05 -0500, Robert Cummings wrote: > On Fri, 2008-02-15 at 14:58 -0500, nihilism machine wrote: > > why isnt this redirecting my page to https://www.mydomain.com instead > > the page stays at my domain.com > > > > > class URL { > > > > // Public Variables > > pu

Re: [PHP] https forced redirect question

2008-02-15 Thread Robert Cummings
On Fri, 2008-02-15 at 14:58 -0500, nihilism machine wrote: > why isnt this redirecting my page to https://www.mydomain.com instead > the page stays at my domain.com > > class URL { > > // Public Variables > public $HTTPS; > public $ServerName; > public $WWW; > >

Re: [PHP] HTTPS

2007-01-29 Thread Richard Lynch
On Mon, January 29, 2007 12:30 am, chetan rane wrote: > i am writing a progrram for a Jabber COnnection manager. I want to > access > the client XML using HTTPS. do any one know a way to so it http://php.net/curl will get you through the S part of HTTPS nice and easy. Mucking with the XML, you ha

RE: [PHP] HTTPS

2007-01-28 Thread Peter Lauri
http://php.net/curl Best regards, Peter Lauri www.dwsasia.com - company web site www.lauri.se - personal web site www.carbonfree.org.uk - become Carbon Free -Original Message- From: chetan rane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 8:31 AM To: php-general@lists.php.n

RE: [PHP] HTTPS with NuSOAP

2006-03-24 Thread Peter Lauri
[snip] > soapclient('https://webservices.netsuite.com/wsdl/v1_3_1/netsuite.wsdl'); The 's' in 'https' should be all that nuSOAP would need to know that it should use SSL, if nuSOAP can do that. [/snip] Correct. NuSOAP do detect automatically, and if CURL is configured it will work. [snip] > 'ro

RE: [PHP] HTTPS with NuSOAP

2006-03-23 Thread Peter Lauri
[snip] > > 'account'=>'theaccountnumber', > > 'role internalId="theinternalid"'=>'')); Does that work to set the attribute? [/snip] You are correct, that does NOT work. I found out to use soapval instead. Thank you! -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http:

Re: [PHP] HTTPS with NuSOAP

2006-03-23 Thread Richard Lynch
On Wed, March 22, 2006 1:41 am, Peter Lauri wrote: > I am trying to use a Web Service on the following endpoint > https://webservices.netsuite.com/wsdl/v1_3_1/netsuite.wsdl. As seen in > the > url, it is under HTTPS. I have compiled PHP with CURL and verified > that CURL > is working. In the docume

Re: [PHP] HTTPS with NuSOAP

2006-03-22 Thread Angelo Zanetti
I am trying to use a Web Service on the following endpoint https://webservices.netsuite.com/wsdl/v1_3_1/netsuite.wsdl. As seen in the url, it is under HTTPS. I have compiled PHP with CURL and verified that CURL is working. In the documentation for NuSOAP I can not find how I set the soapclient to

Re: [PHP] https://...

2004-10-28 Thread Robby Russell
On Thu, 2004-10-28 at 11:01 -0500, Afan Pasalic wrote: > Hi Robby, > Yes, I looked at SERVER_PORT/SERVER_PROTOCOL. What I got is 80 and > HTTP/1.1 when I manually change http:// to https:// I'm getting 443 and > HTTP/1.1 > > I am not so good in this: you want to say that SSL use 443 port >

Re: [PHP] https://...

2004-10-28 Thread Afan Pasalic
Well, didn't know that one. Thanks Greg, didn't know that one :) Today is successful day - learned something new :) -afan Greg Donald wrote: On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 11:01:53 -0500, Afan Pasalic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am not so good in this: you want to say that SSL use 443 port Yup. -- PHP

[Fwd: Re: [PHP] https://...]

2004-10-28 Thread Afan Pasalic
OTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 3:01 PM To: php-general Subject: Re: [PHP] https://... On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 16:35:14 -0500, Afan Pasalic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: hi, how can I check using php that I use SSL? tried with REQUEST_URI HTTP_HOST PATH_INFO but any of these does show

Re: [PHP] https://...

2004-10-28 Thread Afan Pasalic
ober 27, 2004 3:01 PM To: php-general Subject: Re: [PHP] https://... On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 16:35:14 -0500, Afan Pasalic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: hi, how can I check using php that I use SSL? tried with REQUEST_URI HTTP_HOST PATH_INFO but any of these does show http:// phpinfo() describe

Re: [PHP] https://...

2004-10-28 Thread Afan Pasalic
that's why I use it, sure. but can't find anything that helps me. Greg Donald wrote: On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 16:35:14 -0500, Afan Pasalic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: hi, how can I check using php that I use SSL? tried with REQUEST_URI HTTP_HOST PATH_INFO but any of these does show http:// phpinfo() des

Re: [PHP] https://...

2004-10-28 Thread Greg Donald
On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 11:01:53 -0500, Afan Pasalic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am not so good in this: you want to say that SSL use 443 port Yup. -- Greg Donald Zend Certified Engineer http://gdconsultants.com/ http://destiney.com/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To uns

Re: [PHP] https://...

2004-10-28 Thread Afan Pasalic
Hi Robby, Yes, I looked at SERVER_PORT/SERVER_PROTOCOL. What I got is 80 and HTTP/1.1 when I manually change http:// to https:// I'm getting 443 and HTTP/1.1 I am not so good in this: you want to say that SSL use 443 port -afan Robby Russell wrote: On Wed, 2004-10-27 at 16:35 -0500, Afan Pas

Re: [PHP] https://...

2004-10-28 Thread Rens Admiraal
oded full urls for images, the browser will usually complain if the page is accessed via https and the image via http. Warren Vail -Original Message- From: Greg Donald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 3:01 PM To: php-general Subject: Re: [PHP] https://... On Wed, 27

Re: [PHP] https://...

2004-10-28 Thread Rens Admiraal
ing https? Another example is, if you have coded full urls for images, the browser will usually complain if the page is accessed via https and the image via http. Warren Vail -Original Message- From: Greg Donald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 3:01 PM To: php-gen

RE: [PHP] https://...

2004-10-27 Thread Vail, Warren
-- From: Greg Donald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 3:01 PM To: php-general Subject: Re: [PHP] https://... On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 16:35:14 -0500, Afan Pasalic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hi, > how can I check using php that I use SSL? > tried with > REQUEST

Re: [PHP] https://...

2004-10-27 Thread Greg Donald
On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 16:35:14 -0500, Afan Pasalic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hi, > how can I check using php that I use SSL? > tried with > REQUEST_URI > HTTP_HOST > PATH_INFO > but any of these does show http:// phpinfo() describes my SSL stuff pretty well if that's what you mean. And I also fo

Re: [PHP] https://...

2004-10-27 Thread Robby Russell
On Wed, 2004-10-27 at 16:35 -0500, Afan Pasalic wrote: > hi, > how can I check using php that I use SSL? > tried with > REQUEST_URI > HTTP_HOST > PATH_INFO > but any of these does show http:// > > Thanks! > > -afan > Have you looked at $_SERVER['SERVER_PORT'] and $_SERVER['SERVER_PROTOCOL'] ?

Re: [PHP] https & sessions failing to persist

2004-04-30 Thread Curt Zirzow
* Thus wrote Michael R. Wayne ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > On Fri, Apr 30, 2004 at 08:52:37PM +, Curt Zirzow wrote: > > > > session.cookie_path > > session.cookie_domain > > session.cookie_secure > > session.cookie_path / > session.cookie_secure Off > session.cookie_domain no value > > But we ne

Re: [PHP] https & sessions failing to persist

2004-04-30 Thread Michael R. Wayne
On Fri, Apr 30, 2004 at 08:52:37PM +, Curt Zirzow wrote: > > session.cookie_path > session.cookie_domain > session.cookie_secure session.cookie_path / session.cookie_secure Off session.cookie_domain no value But we never use cookies: session.use_cookies Off /\/\ \/\/ -- PHP Ge

Re: [PHP] https & sessions failing to persist

2004-04-30 Thread Curt Zirzow
* Thus wrote Michael R. Wayne ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > Upgraded our PHP installation from 4.1.2 to 4.3.4, scripts that > worked fine before are no longer doing so. The failure can be > traced to the fact that sessions are never being reused (i.e. a new > session gets started with each connection)

Re: [PHP] https detection

2003-10-12 Thread Curt Zirzow
* Thus wrote Rosen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > I.e. if I use _SERVER["SERVER_PORT"] = 443 - for https connection and 80 > for "normal" - i'll be able to determite if user is in https mode - I think > thath should be works . ? There is no guarantee that port 443 == https and 80 == http. Curt -- "My

Re: [PHP] https detection

2003-10-12 Thread Eugene Lee
On Sun, Oct 12, 2003 at 08:52:30PM +1000, Tom Rogers wrote: : Sunday, October 12, 2003, 8:46:41 PM, Eugene wrote: : EL> On Sun, Oct 12, 2003 at 01:24:40PM +0200, Rosen wrote: : EL> : : EL> : I.e. if I use _SERVER["SERVER_PORT"] = 443 - for https connection : EL> : and 80 for "normal" - i'll be a

Re: [PHP] https detection

2003-10-12 Thread Eugene Lee
On Sun, Oct 12, 2003 at 01:24:40PM +0200, Rosen wrote: : : I.e. if I use _SERVER["SERVER_PORT"] = 443 - for https connection and 80 : for "normal" - i'll be able to determite if user is in https mode - I think : thath should be works . ? Technically, you can't guarantee that anything running ov

Re: [PHP] https detection

2003-10-12 Thread Eugene Lee
On Sun, Oct 12, 2003 at 01:09:15PM +0200, Rosen wrote: : : Is there a way to determite with PHP thath site visitor is in https (SSL) : mode or in normal mode ? Check for the existence of $_SERVER['HTTPS'] which gets set only on SSL pages. I wonder why it's still not mentioned in the official doc

Re: [PHP] https detection

2003-10-12 Thread Rosen
I.e. if I use _SERVER["SERVER_PORT"] = 443 - for https connection and 80 for "normal" - i'll be able to determite if user is in https mode - I think thath should be works . ? Thanks, Rosen "Tom Rogers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Hi, > > Sunday, October 12

Re: [PHP] https detection

2003-10-12 Thread Tom Rogers
Hi, Sunday, October 12, 2003, 9:09:15 PM, you wrote: R> Hi, R> Is there a way to determite with PHP thath site visitor is in https (SSL) R> mode or in normal mode ? R> Thanks, R> Rosen put phpinfo(32); at the top of the page and that should show what is available with an ssl connection if you m

RE: [PHP] HTTPS POST without user/client intervention

2003-07-16 Thread Jeff Harris
|-Original Message- |From: PHP List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 1:02 PM |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: [PHP] HTTPS POST without user/client intervention | |I am writing a php script to accept an HTTPS POST of data from a remote |site, process the data, and send

RE: [PHP] HTTPS POST without user/client intervention

2003-07-16 Thread Ralph Guzman
I think what you are looking for is socket connections: http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.fsockopen.php Or CURL http://www.php.net/manual/en/ref.curl.php -Original Message- From: PHP List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 1:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:

Re: [PHP] HTTPS POST without user/client intervention

2003-07-15 Thread Chris Shiflett
--- PHP List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As for sending a POST request to a remote site via SSL, just check > > out cURL, which also has a convenient PEAR package. > > This is what I am trying to do...and thanks for point out cURL...I will > check it out. In that case, you should find this hel

Re: [PHP] HTTPS POST without user/client intervention

2003-07-15 Thread PHP List
On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 15:12, Chris Shiflett wrote: > --- PHP List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am writing a php script to accept an HTTPS POST of data from a > > remote site, process the data, and send an HTTPS POST response back > > (not necessarily to the same remote site). > > Can you perha

Re: [PHP] HTTPS POST without user/client intervention

2003-07-15 Thread Chris Shiflett
--- PHP List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am writing a php script to accept an HTTPS POST of data from a > remote site, process the data, and send an HTTPS POST response back > (not necessarily to the same remote site). Can you perhaps rephrase what you are trying to do? The way I interpret what

Re: [PHP] HTTPS vs. HTTP ?

2002-07-09 Thread Analysis & Solutions
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RE: [PHP] HTTPS vs. HTTP ?

2002-07-09 Thread Brinkman, Theodore
x27;s online site gets hacked, and you hear about it because it could be detected. - Theo P.S.: Shopping carts 'too boring'?! Of course they're boring! -Original Message----- From: Richard Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 4:33 PM To: [EM

Re: [PHP] HTTPS vs. HTTP ?

2002-07-08 Thread Miguel Cruz
On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Analysis & Solutions wrote: > Allow me to emphasize Richard's point about not trusting certificate > authorities. I have an SSL certificate. It was fairly simple to get, > despite several discrepancies in my documentation. > > While it made things easier for me, which I'm

Re: [PHP] HTTPS vs. HTTP ?

2002-07-08 Thread Analysis & Solutions
Folks: Allow me to emphasize Richard's point about not trusting certificate authorities. I have an SSL certificate. It was fairly simple to get, despite several discrepancies in my documentation. While it made things easier for me, which I'm thankful for. Fortunately, I'm a legitimate opera

Re: [PHP] HTTPS vs. HTTP ?

2002-07-08 Thread Richard Lynch
>>>How do you know their certificate hasn't been stolen, and they haven't even >figured it out yet? How do you know they were trustworthy people in the >first place?<< > >Why do you ASSUME that they're NOT trustworthy people? Do you go through >your entire life in that shell? Everybody gets a

RE: [PHP] HTTPS vs. HTTP ? - the weakest link

2002-07-08 Thread Miguel Cruz
On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Brinkman, Theodore wrote: > Think about it for a moment. E-commerce involving properly signed sites is, > at the very least, more secure than handing your credit card to a waiter in > a restauraunt. The waiter can walk off with your card, and come back 2 > minutes later with

RE: [PHP] HTTPS vs. HTTP ? - the weakest link

2002-07-08 Thread Brinkman, Theodore
n the name, cc number and expiration date for later use. - Theo -Original Message- From: B.C. Lance [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 12:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] HTTPS vs. HTTP ? - the weakest link sorry to barge in. but the weakest link

Re: [PHP] HTTPS vs. HTTP ?

2002-07-08 Thread Martin Clifford
>>How do you know their certificate hasn't been stolen, and they haven't even figured it out yet? How do you know they were trustworthy people in the first place?<< Why do you ASSUME that they're NOT trustworthy people? Do you go through your entire life in that shell? >>The more I think abou

Re: [PHP] HTTPS vs. HTTP ?

2002-07-08 Thread Chris Hewitt
Chris Shiflett wrote: > > I think I'm going to compile all of my SSL explanations into a more > clear and informative explanation and post it on the Web somewhere. Yes please. Chris -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP] HTTPS vs. HTTP ?

2002-07-07 Thread Alberto Serra
ðÒÉ×ÅÔ! This is for Chris and Miguel and all the people who threw in infos. I just wanted to thank you all :) It's been really useful, and yes Chris, I guess you should post an explanation of the process somewhere. Most of us are prepared to use HTTPS but we can hardly explain our customers (

Re: [PHP] HTTPS vs. HTTP ?

2002-07-07 Thread Chris Shiflett
Miguel Cruz wrote: >Nobody thinks they're checking whether or not goodguys.com are good guys. >It is your job as a consumer to research them. Once you have researched >them and decided to do business with them, the certificate authority gives >you a pretty solid basis for believing that you ac

Re: [PHP] HTTPS vs. HTTP ?

2002-07-07 Thread Chris Shiflett
Alberto Serra wrote: >> However, it is adequate to know that one key is used to do the >> encrypting, while the other is used for the decrypting. These are >> generally referred to as public and private keys, because one is made >> available to the public while the other is kept safely stored

Re: [PHP] HTTPS vs. HTTP ?

2002-07-07 Thread Miguel Cruz
On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Alberto Serra wrote: > Chris Shiflett wrote: >> Of course, as users of Web browsers such as Netscape and Internet >> Explorer, we have to trust AOL/Time Warner and Microsoft, respectively, >> (yeah, scary thought) to only trust CAs that have high integrity, >> security, etc.

Re: [PHP] HTTPS vs. HTTP ?

2002-07-07 Thread Alberto Serra
ðÒÉ×ÅÔ! >> Chris Shiflett wrote: > it is very misleading and would indicate that I > have very little knowledge about PKI systems, Come on, nobody here would ever think of that. Especially since most of us (put me as first one in the list) should know much more about PKI ourselves before jud

Re: [PHP] HTTPS vs. HTTP ?

2002-07-07 Thread Tracker 1
Personally, I think the concept of NEEDING https is a bit rediculous. Generally, trying to get through the front door, would be the same as trying to get through a concrete wall with a baseball bat... Now, finding a back door, and getting at THEIR database is the REAL key. people don't generally

Re: [PHP] HTTPS vs. HTTP ?

2002-07-07 Thread Justin French
on 08/07/02 10:48 AM, Mark Charette ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Or, even easier and "no tech", I get a low-paying job in some convenience > store, and make copies of the credit card receipts. > > Game Over. > > Using a credit card anywhere involves trust. Period. End of story. Couldn't agree

Re: [PHP] HTTPS vs. HTTP ?

2002-07-07 Thread Chris Shiflett
I think I'm going to forget trying to explain the technical details, because somehow this conversation is completely missing the point now. :) SSL allows you to be sure that your credit card number is getting safely and securely to the Web site identified by a certain domain name. That's all i

RE: [PHP] HTTPS vs. HTTP ?

2002-07-07 Thread Mark Charette
Or, even easier and "no tech", I get a low-paying job in some convenience store, and make copies of the credit card receipts. Game Over. Using a credit card anywhere involves trust. Period. End of story. -Original Message- From: Richard Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] How about an eve

Re: [PHP] HTTPS vs. HTTP ?

2002-07-07 Thread Richard Lynch
>In public key cryptography, it is the *keys*, not the digital >certificate that encrypt/decrypt the communication. Okay. I break into his co-lo, I walk off with his computer, and I break into his office, I walk off with his computers, I kill the guy, and I kidnap his wife. I have everything.

Re: [PHP] HTTPS vs. HTTP ?

2002-07-07 Thread Miguel Cruz
On Sat, 6 Jul 2002, Richard Lynch wrote: > I think we both agree that any old certificate is secure from snooping, > right? I would disagree with that. In order to snoop on a connection, you need to have some access to the link. This may be by being in the same building with one of the endpoin

Re: [PHP] HTTPS vs. HTTP ?

2002-07-06 Thread Chris Shiflett
I just explained this all in great detail, so please read that. I don't just think you are confused; I am positive you are. However, I did notice that you are the same person who gives many good answers to other peoples' questions. This giving of your time to be helpful is commendable, and I a

Re: [PHP] HTTPS vs. HTTP ? - the weakest link

2002-07-06 Thread B.C. Lance
sorry to barge in. but the weakest link ain't in ssl. doesn't really matter how secure vs insecure it is. you can come up with the most secure technology in the whole world that no one can break into. the weakest link lies on the user/customer themselves. you just need a trojan horse in their

Re: [PHP] HTTPS vs. HTTP ?

2002-07-06 Thread Chris Shiflett
Alberto Serra wrote: > ðÒÉ×ÅÔ! I've always wondered what this is exactly. I'm going to assume it's a friendly greeting. :) > Chris Shiflett wrote: > >> Richard, >> >>> Do you really believe that for $200 (or $119, or $500) that they >>> "proven" >>> themselves trustworthy? >> > > LOL no, I

Re: [PHP] HTTPS vs. HTTP ?

2002-07-06 Thread Richard Lynch
>Honestly, I think you need to just buy on book on this. I think I >explained things pretty clearly, and your confusion now seems to be >based more on a lack of trusting my explanation more than anything. I >can't imagine how you could still be this confused. What I can't imagine is how confus

Re: [PHP] HTTPS vs. HTTP ?

2002-07-06 Thread Alberto Serra
ðÒÉ×ÅÔ! Chris Shiflett wrote: > Richard, >> Do you really believe that for $200 (or $119, or $500) that they "proven" >> themselves trustworthy? LOL no, I don't. As a matter of fact crooks usually have more money in their pockets than honest people do, so it's highly possible that a crook will

Re: [PHP] HTTPS vs. HTTP ?

2002-07-06 Thread Chris Shiflett
Richard, Honestly, I think you need to just buy on book on this. I think I explained things pretty clearly, and your confusion now seems to be based more on a lack of trusting my explanation more than anything. I can't imagine how you could still be this confused. I will try to explain once m

Re: [PHP] HTTPS vs. HTTP ?

2002-07-06 Thread Richard Lynch
>>But unless you paid the $200 to get it from a CA, surfers will see a nasty >>(and totally inaccurate/misleading) warning about how insecure it is. >> > >They should. To do otherwise would be inaccurate and misleading. > >>The transmission is no less secure -- It's that the web-server on the othe

Re: [PHP] HTTPS vs. HTTP ?

2002-07-06 Thread Richard Lynch
>On Fri, 5 Jul 2002, Richard Lynch wrote: >> But unless you paid the $200 to get it from a CA, surfers will see a nasty >> (and totally inaccurate/misleading) warning about how insecure it is. > >It is easy to launch a man-the-middle attack against a session being >initiated between a client and a

Re: [PHP] HTTPS vs. HTTP ?

2002-07-06 Thread Chris Shiflett
Richard Lynch wrote: >In the HTTPS exchange, however, extra key-pairs are generated on the fly, >and the private half of the new pair are exchanged, encrypted with the >public halfs of the old pairs, so that the server and the browser are using >a UNIQUE public/private pair so that nobody can sno

Re: [PHP] HTTPS vs. HTTP ?

2002-07-06 Thread Chris Shiflett
Richard Lynch wrote: >You can create your own SSL key pair very, very, very easily... > >But unless you paid the $200 to get it from a CA, surfers will see a nasty >(and totally inaccurate/misleading) warning about how insecure it is. > They should. To do otherwise would be inaccurate and mislea

Re: [PHP] HTTPS vs. HTTP ?

2002-07-06 Thread Miguel Cruz
On Fri, 5 Jul 2002, Richard Lynch wrote: > But unless you paid the $200 to get it from a CA, surfers will see a nasty > (and totally inaccurate/misleading) warning about how insecure it is. It is easy to launch a man-the-middle attack against a session being initiated between a client and a serve

Re: [PHP] HTTPS vs. HTTP ?

2002-07-05 Thread Richard Lynch
>For Miguel Cruz posting back there. If I understand correctly, the private >key are inside the public key. Is this correct? If you have an SSL (or SSH, or whatever) key thingie, it always comes as a "pair" The private half, and the public half. You never, ever, ever, ever give the private ha

Re: [PHP] HTTPS vs. HTTP ?

2002-07-05 Thread Richard Lynch
>I saw that Microsoft has a Certificate Authority server package that allows >you to create your own key. Is there a way to do this in linux? In this >particular instance, it's me accessing my own web site. I'd like to encrypt >the session and I'm don't need someone to confirm anything. You ca

Re: [PHP] HTTPS vs. HTTP ?

2002-07-05 Thread Richard Lynch
>On Fri, 5 Jul 2002, Jerome Houston wrote: >> if the browser is making a request, and it sees an https:// at the beginning >> of the request URL, it will : >> 1. get the domain's public key from a public key server >> 2. encrypt the whole request with the domain's public key >> 3. submit it to

Re: [PHP] HTTPS vs. HTTP ?

2002-07-05 Thread Miguel Cruz
On Sat, 6 Jul 2002, Alberto Serra wrote: > yes, but in that case your Apache is running just ONE web site. Most > people buy VirtualDomains which are namebased and not IP based. And they > cannot share an IP number with other sites with SSL, AFAIK. Or am I > misunderstanding the docs? You're r

Re: [PHP] HTTPS vs. HTTP ?

2002-07-05 Thread Alberto Serra
: > -Original Message- > >>From: Alberto Serra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 8:54 PM >>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Subject: Re: [PHP] HTTPS vs. HTTP ? > > >>Besides, using an HTTPS server implies >>(correct me if I am w

Re: [PHP] HTTPS vs. HTTP ?

2002-07-05 Thread Miguel Cruz
On Fri, 5 Jul 2002, Scott Fletcher wrote: > For Miguel Cruz posting back there. If I understand correctly, the private > key are inside the public key. Is this correct? I'm not completely sure I understand your question. When you visit a site using HTTPS, here's basically what happens: 1. You

RE: [PHP] HTTPS vs. HTTP ?

2002-07-05 Thread Miguel Cruz
On Fri, 5 Jul 2002, Lazor, Ed wrote: > I saw that Microsoft has a Certificate Authority server package that allows > you to create your own key. Is there a way to do this in linux? In this > particular instance, it's me accessing my own web site. I'd like to encrypt > the session and I'm don't

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