Re: [PHP] [NEWBIE GUIDE] For the benefit of new members

2007-11-17 Thread Cem Kayali
Peter Ford-4 wrote: I was all ready to jump on Point #6 to disagree until I read the next paragraph, updating that with the correct information. PHP can find out the OS of the system on which the browser is running. Strictly speaking, PHP can only find out what the browser

Re: [PHP] [NEWBIE GUIDE] For the benefit of new members

2007-11-16 Thread Peter Ford
I was all ready to jump on Point #6 to disagree until I read the next paragraph, updating that with the correct information. PHP can find out the OS of the system on which the browser is running. Strictly speaking, PHP can only find out what the browser tells it - that includes the

Re: [PHP] [NEWBIE GUIDE] For the benefit of new members

2007-11-16 Thread Daniel Brown
On Nov 15, 2007 11:27 PM, Paul Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 16:45 -0500, Daniel Brown wrote: 3. There is a searchable archive of the mailing list discussion at http://phparch.com/mailinglists. or at

Re: [PHP] [NEWBIE GUIDE] For the benefit of new members

2007-11-16 Thread Andrew Ballard
On Nov 16, 2007 10:30 AM, Peter Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was all ready to jump on Point #6 to disagree until I read the next paragraph, updating that with the correct information. PHP can find out the OS of the system on which the browser is running. Strictly speaking, PHP

Re: [PHP] [NEWBIE GUIDE] For the benefit of new members

2007-11-15 Thread Daniel Brown
On Nov 15, 2007 4:07 PM, Jay Blanchard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: = Please feel free to add more points and send to the list. 20050322jb - Note the new location of PHP Editors list. =

Re: [PHP] [NEWBIE GUIDE] For the benefit of new members

2007-11-15 Thread Paul Scott
On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 16:45 -0500, Daniel Brown wrote: 3. There is a searchable archive of the mailing list discussion at http://phparch.com/mailinglists. or at http://fsiu.uwc.ac.za/index.php?module=blogaction=randbloguserid=9914070612 if the above is down, as it is for me right now.

RE: [PHP] NEWBIE guide

2007-04-16 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip] What ever happened to the NEWBIE guide we were talking about providing last year? Did anyone do anything about it? [/snip] We had periodically published a newbie guide to the list, for a while it was automated by one of the group, then I would send out manually from time-to-time. These

Re: [PHP] [NEWBIE GUIDE] For the benefit of new users

2006-03-15 Thread John Nichel
Jay Blanchard wrote: snip And of course everyone that ever posted to php-general. /snip Even the people who top post? *ducks* -- John C. Nichel IV Programmer/System Admin (ÜberGeek) Dot Com Holdings of Buffalo 716.856.9675 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List

RE: [PHP] [NEWBIE GUIDE] For the benefit of new users

2006-03-15 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip] Even the people who top post? *ducks* [/snip] ...you cannot be hit by someone who top posts. If you duck... You know what struck me as funny about this? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP] [NEWBIE GUIDE] For the benefit of new members

2005-03-22 Thread Stan F
[snip] I feel we should add this to the rules. Dunno about the others, but it really drives mad to delete bunches of emails with equal contents posted within 5 minute interval. --- Please avoid sending duplicate letters to the list. If you feel your email was not delivered properly or no-one

Re: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefit of new members

2004-10-05 Thread Greg Donald
On Tue, 5 Oct 2004 09:55:20 +0530, Gnanavel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 8. When you want to start a new topic, open a new mail composer and enter the mailing list address [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of replying to an existing thread and replacing the subject and body with your message. I think it

Re: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefit of new members

2004-08-31 Thread raditha dissanayake
Jason Wong wrote: On Tuesday 31 August 2004 07:06, Brent Clements wrote: Damn, I just felt the wrath of the list even though I completely agree with you guys, I was just pointing out some employers requirements. Wrath? What wrath? You ain't seen nuthin yet. I think all we're pointing out

Re: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefit of new members

2004-08-30 Thread Paul Waring
Another thing I'd like to add: if you're on a public mailing list don't leave a vacation message set when you go away, it's *extremely* annoying. Paul -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefit of new members

2004-08-30 Thread Brent Clements
:30 PM Subject: Re: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefit of new members Another thing I'd like to add: if you're on a public mailing list don't leave a vacation message set when you go away, it's *extremely* annoying. Paul -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe

Re: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefit of new members

2004-08-30 Thread Matthew Sims
*** Automated Message - Do Not Reply *** Hello, I am currently out on vacation on a warm sunny beach, suckin' down an alcoholic beverage or something and will reply to your message when I return...or not. -- --Matthew Sims --http://killermookie.org *** End *** Another thing I'd like to add:

Re: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefit of new members

2004-08-30 Thread Paul Waring
The problem with that request is that some employers require you to have a vacation message set. They can use another email account or mail from home then, it's not like there's a shortage of free web-based email providers. Paul -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To

Re: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefit of new members

2004-08-30 Thread Jason Wong
On Tuesday 31 August 2004 05:27, Brent Clements wrote: The problem with that request is that some employers require you to have a vacation message set. unsubscribe and re-subscribe. -- Jason Wong - Gremlins Associates - www.gremlins.biz Open Source Software Systems Integrators * Web Design

Re: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefit of new members

2004-08-30 Thread Stut
On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 16:27:42 -0500, Brent Clements [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem with that request is that some employers require you to have a vacation message set. Then you should temporarily unsubscribe from the list until you return. Vacation messages on mailing lists are more

Re: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefit of new members

2004-08-30 Thread Jim Grill
to have a vacation message set. -Brent - Original Message - From: Paul Waring [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jay Blanchard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; PHP Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 3:30 PM Subject: Re: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefit of new

Re: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefit of new members

2004-08-30 Thread Marek Kilimajer
Brent Clements wrote: The problem with that request is that some employers require you to have a vacation message set. -Brent The problem is that the employers use vacation programs that do not respect Precedence: bulk header. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe,

Re: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefit of new members

2004-08-30 Thread JanetVal
In a message dated 8/30/2004 3:10:42 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The problem with that request is that some employers require you to have a vacation message set. -Brent Then you need to get off the list before you leave. You can resubscribe when you return. If you need

Re: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefit of new members

2004-08-30 Thread Brent Clements
, August 30, 2004 5:16 PM Subject: Re: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefit of new members On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 16:27:42 -0500, Brent Clements [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem with that request is that some employers require you to have a vacation message set. Then you should temporarily

Re: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefit of new members

2004-08-30 Thread Jason Wong
On Tuesday 31 August 2004 07:06, Brent Clements wrote: Damn, I just felt the wrath of the list even though I completely agree with you guys, I was just pointing out some employers requirements. Wrath? What wrath? You ain't seen nuthin yet. I think all we're pointing out is that it takes just

Re: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefit of new members

2004-08-30 Thread John Nichel
Jason Wong wrote: On Tuesday 31 August 2004 07:06, Brent Clements wrote: Damn, I just felt the wrath of the list even though I completely agree with you guys, I was just pointing out some employers requirements. Wrath? What wrath? You ain't seen nuthin yet. Hell hath no fury like Jason scorned.

Re: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefit of new members

2004-08-08 Thread raditha dissanayake
Me thinks a note about 'if you don't follow these guidelines your questions will not be answered' is a good idea. keep up the good work siva kumar. -- Raditha Dissanayake. http://www.radinks.com/sftp/ |

Re: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefit of new members

2004-05-14 Thread Christophe Chisogne
Ma Siva Kumar a écrit : For example: One of the repeatedly discussed question in the list is Best PHP editor. (...) try this link : http://phpeditors.linuxbackup.co.uk/ (contributed by Christophe Chisogne). The link has now moved (http redirect) http://www.thelinuxconsultancy.co.uk/phpeditors/

Re: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefit of new members

2004-04-01 Thread Chris de Vidal
Ma Siva Kumar said: 10. Ask smart questions http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Though I've been using newsgroups since '95 and though I'd read this page before, it's helpful to review it. I can see a few mistakes I'd made as recently as a few months ago on another list :-) This

RE: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefit of new members

2004-04-01 Thread Chris W. Parker
Chris de Vidal mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thursday, April 01, 2004 7:20 AM said: Though I've been using newsgroups since '95 and though I'd read this page before, it's helpful to review it. I can see a few mistakes I'd made as recently as a few months ago on another list :-) This

[PHP] re:[PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefit of new members

2004-03-31 Thread Andy B
=== This message is for the benefit of new subscribers and those new to PHP. Please feel free to add more points and send to the list. === 1. If you have any queries/problems about PHP try http://www.php.net/manual/en first.

Re: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefit of new members

2003-12-29 Thread Raditha Dissanayake
Hi, Hopefully an administrator could append this to the welcome message that's sent to new subscribers. Ma Siva Kumar wrote: On Monday 29 Dec 2003 10:24 am, you wrote: Hi, This compilation of your is really excellent. Over the last few months i have noticed that many posters are cleary

RE: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefit of new members

2003-12-29 Thread Chris W. Parker
Raditha Dissanayake mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sunday, December 28, 2003 8:55 PM said: This compilation of your is really excellent. Over the last few months i have noticed that many posters are cleary sending messages without having read your newby guide. IMHO whenever that happens all

Re: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefit of new members

2003-12-28 Thread Raditha Dissanayake
Hi, This compilation of your is really excellent. Over the last few months i have noticed that many posters are cleary sending messages without having read your newby guide. IMHO whenever that happens all of us on this list should suggest that the user should read this message in the archive

Re: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefit of new members

2003-12-28 Thread Ma Siva Kumar
On Monday 29 Dec 2003 10:24 am, you wrote: Hi, This compilation of your is really excellent. Over the last few months i have noticed that many posters are cleary sending messages without having read your newby guide. IMHO whenever that happens all of us on this list should suggest that

RE: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefit of new members

2003-12-09 Thread Chris W. Parker
Ma Siva Kumar mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tuesday, December 09, 2003 4:00 PM said: 4. Just put the following code into a file with a .php extension and access it through your webserver: ?php phpinfo(); This will display tons of info if php is enabled, or, it will ask you to

Re: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefit of new members

2003-10-07 Thread Christophe Chisogne
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please feel free to add more points and send to the list. 2 ideas come to my mind. 1. Add a link to the PHP FAQ in newbie guide item 1 http://www.php.net/manual/faq.php Yes, it's part of the manual, but a frequent answer is Read the FAQ or less polite ones ;-)

Re: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] RTFM, STFW, and STFA

2003-09-18 Thread Raditha Dissanayake
Jay, Thank you very much for bringing this up. I think if people cannot be curteous and cannot obey maliling list rules and etiquette they don't deserve replies. Jay Blanchard wrote: I just had to get it out of my system this morning. No offense intended to anyone, and not directly aimed at

RE: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] RTFM, STFW, and STFA

2003-09-18 Thread esctoday.com | Wouter van Vliet
] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 3:29 PM To: Jay Blanchard; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] RTFM, STFW, and STFA Jay, Thank you very much for bringing this up. I think if people cannot be curteous and cannot obey maliling list rules and etiquette they don't deserve replies

Re: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] RTFM, STFW, and STFA

2003-09-18 Thread CPT John W. Holmes
From: esctoday.com | Wouter van Vliet [EMAIL PROTECTED] So, since I'm not quite a newbie I did not read all the guides .. RTFM (Read The F*ck!ng Manual) and STFW (Search The [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web) I already knew, but what does STFA stand for ;).. Hi newbie. Why don't you search the archives

Re: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] RTFM, STFW, and STFA

2003-09-18 Thread Curt Zirzow
* Thus wrote esctoday.com | Wouter van Vliet ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Quite Right ! So, since I'm not quite a newbie I did not read all the guides .. RTFM (Read The F*ck!ng Manual) and STFW (Search The [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web) I already knew, but what does STFA stand for ;).. Archives Curt --

Re: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] RTFM, STFW, and STFA

2003-09-18 Thread Christophe Chisogne
Wouter van Vliet wrote: So, since I'm not quite a newbie I did not read all the guides .. RTFM (Read The F*ck!ng Manual) and STFW (Search The [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web) I already knew, but what does STFA stand for ;).. In a word : s/STFA/STFAQ/ From ESR's Jargon File v4.4.4 (some hacker culture, yes)

RE: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] RTFM, STFW, and STFA

2003-09-18 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip] Perhaps we could add this link to the Newbie Guide ( found this in archives and with s/tuxedo/catb/ ) How To Ask Questions The Smart Way, by Eric Steven Raymond http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html [/snip] It is number 9 on the Newbie Guide -- PHP General Mailing List

RE: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] RTFM, STFW, and STFA

2003-09-18 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip] Perhaps we could add this link to the Newbie Guide ( found this in archives and with s/tuxedo/catb/ ) How To Ask Questions The Smart Way, by Eric Steven Raymond http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html [/snip] It is number 9 on the Newbie Guide which (I hit send too) leads me to

Re: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] RTFM, STFW, and STFA

2003-09-18 Thread Glenn E. Sieb
Jay Blanchard wrote: [snip] Perhaps we could add this link to the Newbie Guide ( found this in archives and with s/tuxedo/catb/ ) How To Ask Questions The Smart Way, by Eric Steven Raymond http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html [/snip] It is number 9 on the Newbie Guide which (I hit

RE: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefit of new members

2003-08-26 Thread Chris W. Parker
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Monday, August 25, 2003 5:11 AM said: 5. Provide a clear descriptive subject line. Avoid general subjects like Help!!, A Question etc. Change to: 5. Provide a clear descriptive subject line. Avoid general subjects like Help!!, A Question, etc.

RE: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefit of new members

2003-08-26 Thread Burhan
Quoting Chris W. Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Monday, August 25, 2003 5:11 AM said: 5. Provide a clear descriptive subject line. Avoid general subjects like Help!!, A Question etc. Change to: 5. Provide a clear descriptive subject line.

RE: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefit of new members

2003-08-26 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip] .02 [/snip] A good .02 Chris. I'd add 9. Ask smart questions http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Jay -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

RE: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefits of new members

2003-08-14 Thread Mike Brum
, instead of to everyone on a regular basis though. my $.02 -M -Original Message- From: Van Andel, Robbert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 1:08 PM To: PHP Mailing List Subject: RE: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefits of new members Personally, I think one

Re: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefits of new members

2003-08-14 Thread David
suggestion would be to have that message sent to a person just after signing up once, instead of to everyone on a regular basis though. my $.02 -M -Original Message- From: Van Andel, Robbert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 1:08 PM To: PHP Mailing List Subject: RE: [PHP

RE: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefits of new members

2003-08-14 Thread Ford, Mike [LSS]
On 11 August 2003 18:08, Van Andel, Robbert wrote: Personally, I think one of the worst replies someone on the list can do when someone new asks a question is send only a link to the manual. It's presumption that everyone will understand the way the manual is worded. There have been times

RE: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefits of new members

2003-08-14 Thread Mike Brum
might generate. -M -Original Message- From: Ford, Mike [LSS] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 5:23 AM To: 'Van Andel, Robbert'; PHP Mailing List Subject: RE: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefits of new members snip If I respond with a link to the manual, it's

RE: [PHP] [Newbie Guide] For the benefits of new members

2003-08-11 Thread Van Andel, Robbert
Personally, I think one of the worst replies someone on the list can do when someone new asks a question is send only a link to the manual. It's presumption that everyone will understand the way the manual is worded. There have been times when it's confused me and I needed another perspective on