Re: [PHP] PHP vs. jsp, advice please

2003-06-10 Thread Jimmy Brake
hi! i run some really big apps (crms/email/shopping carts/directories/forums/etc) that make use of persistance type data but NEARLY all of it is just put in and removed from the DB - just all kinds of little/big functions that need to maintain some data or state(s) of some data - my system average

Re: [PHP] PHP vs. jsp, advice please

2003-06-10 Thread Jean-Christian Imbeault
Cpt John W. Holmes wrote: Agree 100%. Don't assume that just because you use JSP, or any other language, your program is going to instantly "scale well" and be easy to maintain. You can write crappy, inefficient code in any language. You can also write good programs in most any language if you put

Re: [PHP] PHP vs. jsp, advice please

2003-06-10 Thread CPT John W. Holmes
--John Holmes... PS: Sorry for the top-post, OE sucks! - Original Message - From: "Jay Blanchard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jean-Christian Imbeault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 7:46 AM Subject: RE: [PHP] PHP vs. js

RE: [PHP] PHP vs. jsp, advice please

2003-06-10 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip] I'm worried that PHP won't scale well. And by scaling I don't mean under heavy load, I mean maintenance wise :) I can't imagine having to do a feature upgrade on a PHP project with more than 100 files ... (this file requires that file which requires that one and so on ...) [/snip] This is

Re: [PHP] PHP vs. jsp, advice please

2003-06-10 Thread Joel Rees
> > You might want to look around the jakarta projects and ask questions on > > some of those mailing lists. > > Thanks for the advice. I'll try that. But I *would* like to hear the > opinions of PHP'ers too. I'm worried that by asking people on that list > Ill get one-sided views. Of COURSE yo

Re: [PHP] PHP vs. jsp, advice please

2003-06-10 Thread SLanger
Hello Well here is my opinion on the two. I think it is a lot easier to get an app ready and running with PHP (especially database driven) than it is with JSP. The memory footprint of PHP is a lot lower than with JSP. Alone the JVM that needs to be loaded requires lots of resources. Also inst

Re: [PHP] PHP vs. jsp, advice please

2003-06-09 Thread DvDmanDT
Installing JSP isn't impossible, but it can be a true pain... At least on windows... There are lots of environiment variables to set (well, two at least), config files to edit, a directory structure to understand (this is probably way simplier than I currently think it is)... However, once you get

Re: [PHP] PHP vs. jsp, advice please

2003-06-09 Thread Jean-Christian Imbeault
Joel Rees wrote: You might want to look around the jakarta projects and ask questions on some of those mailing lists. Thanks for the advice. I'll try that. But I *would* like to hear the opinions of PHP'ers too. I'm worried that by asking people on that list Ill get one-sided views. What do PHP

Re: [PHP] PHP vs. jsp, advice please

2003-06-09 Thread Joel Rees
> ... > Before I start my new project I am considering whether to use PHP again > or to switch to jsp. I'm worried that PHP won't scale well. And by > scaling I don't mean under heavy load, I mean maintenance wise :) I > can't imagine having to do a feature upgrade on a PHP project with more >