Re: [PHP] PHP5 & Commercial Development

2007-02-09 Thread Jochem Maas
gt; Phone: (671)689-2377 > -Original Message- > From: Stut [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 2:55 AM > To: tedd > Cc: php-general@lists.php.net > Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP5 & Commercial Development > > tedd wrote: >> At 12:06

Re: [PHP] PHP5 & Commercial Development

2007-02-07 Thread Robert Cummings
On Wed, 2007-02-07 at 09:47 +0100, Lars Gunther wrote: > Robert Cummings skrev: > > On Tue, 2007-02-06 at 23:45 +0100, Keryx Web wrote: > > Could you point out to me where exactly the discussion became about PHP4 > > versus PHP5? I seem to be smelling the red herring technique of changing > > the c

Re: [PHP] PHP5 & Commercial Development

2007-02-07 Thread Lars Gunther
Robert Cummings skrev: On Tue, 2007-02-06 at 23:45 +0100, Keryx Web wrote: Could you point out to me where exactly the discussion became about PHP4 versus PHP5? I seem to be smelling the red herring technique of changing the conversation focus so as to inappropriately lend credence to the initial

RE: [PHP] PHP5 & Commercial Development

2007-02-06 Thread Ligaya A. Turmelle
2:55 AM To: tedd Cc: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP5 & Commercial Development tedd wrote: > At 12:06 AM -0500 2/5/07, Craige Leeder wrote: >> PHP is fine for commercial environments. Many people are just afraid >> of it due to the fact it is known to break some

Re: [PHP] PHP5 & Commercial Development

2007-02-06 Thread Robert Cummings
On Tue, 2007-02-06 at 23:45 +0100, Keryx Web wrote: > > The question PHP 4 or PHP 5: If you stay with 4 you are bound to a one > size fits all solution. In PHP 5 you can use DB-specific drivers or PDO > or a PHP-based abstraction layer. That's *more* choice, not less! > > To summarize: With PDO

Re: [PHP] PHP5 & Commercial Development

2007-02-06 Thread Keryx Web
Robert Cummings skrev: I sincerely question the competence of someone who advocates a one size fits all approach to programming. There are many reasons why a developer may work with the old-school interface calls. For instance they may be supporting an old school application. They might be writin

Re: [PHP] PHP5 & Commercial Development

2007-02-05 Thread Richard Lynch
On Mon, February 5, 2007 10:55 am, Stut wrote: > tedd wrote: >> At 12:06 AM -0500 2/5/07, Craige Leeder wrote: >>> PHP is fine for commercial environments. Many people are just >>> afraid >>> of it due to the fact it is known to break some poorly written PHP >>> 4 >>> scripts, and the fact that

Re: [PHP] PHP5 & Commercial Development

2007-02-05 Thread Jochem Maas
Robert Cummings wrote: > On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 22:00 +0100, Keryx Web wrote: >> Eric Gorr skrev: >>> I haven't tracked this particular issue, but I know when PHP5 was first >>> released is wasn't recommended in a commercial/production environment. >>> However, a lot of time has passed and we're a

Re: [PHP] PHP5 & Commercial Development

2007-02-05 Thread Jochem Maas
Stut wrote: > tedd wrote: >> At 12:06 AM -0500 2/5/07, Craige Leeder wrote: >>> PHP is fine for commercial environments. Many people are just afraid >>> of it due to the fact it is known to break some poorly written PHP 4 >>> scripts, and the fact that many people don't think it's new features >>>

Re: [PHP] PHP5 & Commercial Development

2007-02-05 Thread Robert Cummings
On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 22:00 +0100, Keryx Web wrote: > Eric Gorr skrev: > > I haven't tracked this particular issue, but I know when PHP5 was first > > released is wasn't recommended in a commercial/production environment. > > However, a lot of time has passed and we're at v5.2 now...have things

Re: [PHP] PHP5 & Commercial Development

2007-02-05 Thread Keryx Web
Eric Gorr skrev: I haven't tracked this particular issue, but I know when PHP5 was first released is wasn't recommended in a commercial/production environment. However, a lot of time has passed and we're at v5.2 now...have things changed? Have Google&Yahoo, for example, moved to PHP5? Or is PHP

Re: [PHP] PHP5 & Commercial Development

2007-02-05 Thread Stut
tedd wrote: At 12:06 AM -0500 2/5/07, Craige Leeder wrote: PHP is fine for commercial environments. Many people are just afraid of it due to the fact it is known to break some poorly written PHP 4 scripts, and the fact that many people don't think it's new features are "necessary". It is perfect

Re: [PHP] PHP5 & Commercial Development

2007-02-05 Thread tedd
At 12:06 AM -0500 2/5/07, Craige Leeder wrote: Eric, PHP is fine for commercial environments. Many people are just afraid of it due to the fact it is known to break some poorly written PHP 4 scripts, and the fact that many people don't think it's new features are "necessary". It is perfectly fin

Re: [PHP] PHP5 & Commercial Development

2007-02-04 Thread Craige Leeder
Eric, PHP is fine for commercial environments. Many people are just afraid of it due to the fact it is known to break some poorly written PHP 4 scripts, and the fact that many people don't think it's new features are "necessary". It is perfectly fine to use it in a commercial environment however.

Re: [PHP] PHP5 & Commercial Development

2007-02-02 Thread Richard Lynch
On Thu, February 1, 2007 5:13 pm, Eric Gorr wrote: > I haven't tracked this particular issue, but I know when PHP5 was > first released is wasn't recommended in a commercial/production > environment. However, a lot of time has passed and we're at v5.2 > now...have things changed? Have Google&Yahoo,

Re: [PHP] PHP5 & Commercial Development

2007-02-01 Thread Chris
Eric Gorr wrote: I haven't tracked this particular issue, but I know when PHP5 was first released is wasn't recommended in a commercial/production environment. However, a lot of time has passed and we're at v5.2 now...have things changed? Have Google&Yahoo, for example, moved to PHP5? Or is PHP

RE: [PHP] PHP5 & Commercial Development

2007-02-01 Thread Ligaya A. Turmelle
AFAIK php5 is the preferred production/enterprise environment. (buzzword +1) Respectfully, Ligaya Turmelle -Original Message- From: Eric Gorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 9:13 AM To: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: [PHP] PHP5 & Commercial Development I ha