Re: [PHP-DOC] Documenting configure options/Updating and splitting install.configure.php

2001-12-27 Thread Georg Richter
> > Perhaps I'll visit you in the Krone. > Send me a mail before, I'll come too! Georg

Re: [PHP-DOC] Documenting configure options/Updating and splitting install.configure.php

2001-12-27 Thread Mark Kronsbein
> I don´t see that splitting configure information in its own folder > would help. I have said that a index for the first three parts would > be more usefull. You don't really understand what I mean ;) > Yes, and I hope we can discuss this theme in Step In in Stuttgart > the next days? Perhaps

Re: [PHP-DOC] Documenting configure options/Updating and splitting install.configure.php

2001-12-27 Thread Mark Kronsbein
> Egon, please don't put up too many roadblocks here. Give people willing > to contribute some latitude and see what they come up with. If it turns Thank you. > out to be a mess, we will deal with it later. Chances are it will be very > useful and just needs a little bit of guidance in the r

Re: [PHP-DOC] Documenting configure options/Updating and splitting install.configure.php

2001-12-27 Thread Mark Kronsbein
>are getting worse and worse by the hour. These new chapters regarding the >installation of modules / extensions and the general configuration of PHP >on several platforms would help a lot of users. That's what I'm trying to say ;) Perhaps, I should dring a beer together with Egon and explain it

Re: [PHP-DOC] Documenting configure options/Updating and splitting install.configure.php

2001-12-26 Thread Egon Schmid
From: "Mark Kronsbein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > If you doesn´t get the permission to do so, forget it. If I don´t > > see such a permission from one of the editors or authors, I´ll > > remove it ASAP like the rtfm() function :) > > Egon, I don't really understand, what your problem is. We're not t

Re: [PHP-DOC] Documenting configure options/Updating and splitting install.configure.php

2001-12-26 Thread Egon Schmid
From: "Mark Kronsbein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I haven´t forced writers to checkin complete manual pages. Every > > incomplete contribution is a very valuable contribution in the the > > hope the contributor will finish it in the near future. > > ACK, absolutely. But: There will be lots and lots

Re: [PHP-DOC] Documenting configure options/Updating and splitting install.configure.php

2001-12-26 Thread Mark Kronsbein
> If you doesn´t get the permission to do so, forget it. If I don´t > see such a permission from one of the editors or authors, I´ll > remove it ASAP like the rtfm() function :) Egon, I don't really understand, what your problem is. We're not talking about some funstuff like rtfm(). We are talki

Re: [PHP-DOC] Documenting configure options/Updating and splitting install.configure.php

2001-12-26 Thread Egon Schmid
From: "Mark Kronsbein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > But: Why should we? I owe a lot to PHP and the community and, > > Can you explain "we"? > > We are at the moment Jan and I. Aha > > > whereever you like, but not in phpdoc CVS". > > > > I tend to the later. > > Well. I also want to hear what the

Re: [PHP-DOC] Documenting configure options/Updating and splitting install.configure.php

2001-12-26 Thread Mark Kronsbein
> I haven´t forced writers to checkin complete manual pages. Every > incomplete contribution is a very valuable contribution in the the > hope the contributor will finish it in the near future. ACK, absolutely. But: There will be lots and lots of changes in the beginnig. It could be _very_ chaot

Re: [PHP-DOC] Documenting configure options/Updating and splitting install.configure.php

2001-12-26 Thread Mark Kronsbein
> > But: Why should we? I owe a lot to PHP and the community and, > Can you explain "we"? We are at the moment Jan and I. > > whereever you like, but not in phpdoc CVS". > > I tend to the later. Well. I also want to hear what the other guys think. So, you think, we should do this "alone" an

Re: [PHP-DOC] Documenting configure options/Updating and splitting install.configure.php

2001-12-26 Thread Egon Schmid
From: "Mark Kronsbein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Well, I don't care _where_ to put in this stuff. I just thought, that it > would > be better to not put stuff into the manual, which is not only incomplete, > but not even really started. We have to put all these configure options > into xml and start

Re: [PHP-DOC] Documenting configure options/Updating and splitting install.configure.php

2001-12-26 Thread Mark Kronsbein
> The core thing here is about getting install (configure) options out in the > open, making life easier to understand for everyone. I also think that some > default configure options (examples) should be provided to make the process > that bit easier. That's what we would liek to try. > Wherev

Re: [PHP-DOC] Documenting configure options/Updating and splitting install.configure.php

2001-12-26 Thread Egon Schmid
From: "Mark Kronsbein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > We have now many people with a CVS account. This does not mean, that > > every person can do what he/she wish to do. > > ACK. That's why I wrote this mail to ask. > > See: I/we plan do to something, which is IMHO needed and we do it > voluntarily. If

RE: [PHP-DOC] Documenting configure options/Updating and splitting install.configure.php

2001-12-26 Thread James Cox
The core thing here is about getting install (configure) options out in the open, making life easier to understand for everyone. I also think that some default configure options (examples) should be provided to make the process that bit easier. Wherever it is stored till it's published is neither

Re: [PHP-DOC] Documenting configure options/Updating and splitting install.configure.php

2001-12-26 Thread Mark Kronsbein
> Every manual is not complete. Holding nearly complete chapters in > temp-directories is also a bad idea. This will confuse readers and > writers. Well, I don't care _where_ to put in this stuff. I just thought, that it would be better to not put stuff into the manual, which is not only incomple

Re: [PHP-DOC] Documenting configure options/Updating and splitting install.configure.php

2001-12-26 Thread Egon Schmid
From: "Mark Kronsbein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > It doesn´t help writers and readers. I´m also against a split into > > different languages. If this happens, I don´t validate other > > languages. > > It does help. I, personally, don't want to have stuff in the manual which is > absolutely not finis

Re: [PHP-DOC] Documenting configure options/Updating and splitting install.configure.php

2001-12-26 Thread Mark Kronsbein
> We have now many people with a CVS account. This does not mean, that > every person can do what he/she wish to do. ACK. That's why I wrote this mail to ask. See: I/we plan do to something, which is IMHO needed and we do it voluntarily. If nobody wants it, or nobody thinks that this is needed,

Re: [PHP-DOC] Documenting configure options/Updating and splitting install.configure.php

2001-12-26 Thread Egon Schmid
From: "Mark Kronsbein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Derick cannot make this decision alone. > > Thats why I wrote this mail. > > > Please ask an editor or author first. My answer is a clear NO. > > Why? We have now many people with a CVS account. This does not mean, that every person can do what he/s

Re: [PHP-DOC] Documenting configure options/Updating and splitting install.configure.php

2001-12-26 Thread Mark Kronsbein
> It doesn´t help writers and readers. I´m also against a split into > different languages. If this happens, I don´t validate other > languages. It does help. I, personally, don't want to have stuff in the manual which is absolutely not finished. My thought was just to "work" on it in some sort

Re: [PHP-DOC] Documenting configure options/Updating and splitting install.configure.php

2001-12-26 Thread Mark Kronsbein
> Derick cannot make this decision alone. Thats why I wrote this mail. > Please ask an editor or author first. My answer is a clear NO. Why? Mark

Re: [PHP-DOC] Documenting configure options/Updating and splitting install.configure.php

2001-12-26 Thread Egon Schmid
From: "Jan Lehnardt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Please ask an editor or author first. My answer is a clear NO. > > it was a suggestion, can you point out why you are against it? It doesn´t help writers and readers. I´m also against a split into different languages. If this happens, I don´t validate

Re: [PHP-DOC] Documenting configure options/Updating and splitting install.configure.php

2001-12-26 Thread Jan Lehnardt
Hi, On Thu, 27 Dec 2001 02:18:52 +0100 "Egon Schmid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Please ask an editor or author first. My answer is a clear NO. it was a suggestion, can you point out why you are against it? Jan -- Q: Thank Jan? A: http://geschenke.an.dasmoped.net/

Re: [PHP-DOC] Documenting configure options/Updating and splitting install.configure.php

2001-12-26 Thread Egon Schmid
From: "Mark Kronsbein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Derick and me for now ;). Derick cannot make this decision alone. > > now we need someone who is mor familiar with the technical part of the > > manual (hartmut e.g. *hide*) to split this page into apropriate > > chapters. > > Yes, but I think, fir

Re: [PHP-DOC] Documenting configure options/Updating and splitting install.configure.php

2001-12-26 Thread Mark Kronsbein
> Derick and me for now ;). Pst ;) > now we need someone who is mor familiar with the technical part of the > manual (hartmut e.g. *hide*) to split this page into apropriate > chapters. Yes, but I think, first we gotta start doing the documentation and then split or not. So now, its yout turn

Re: [PHP-DOC] Documenting configure options/Updating and splitting install.configure.php

2001-12-26 Thread Jan Lehnardt
Hi, On Wed, 26 Dec 2001 23:00:25 +0100 "Mark Kronsbein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > These are only my $ 0.02, but I hope everybody understands my ideas and I'll > get > (hopefully positive ;) feedback. There are some people, I've talked to about > this > and they mostly agreed with me. Derick an

[PHP-DOC] Documenting configure options/Updating and splitting install.configure.php

2001-12-26 Thread Mark Kronsbein
Hi there. If you have a look at http://www.php.net/manual/en/install.configure.php you'll notice, that there are _many_ options, which are not documented. The rest is IMHO not documented very detailled. Lets see a good example to show you what I (we) think is "detailled": --with-mysql has a lit