Re: [pinhole-discussion] first image of a photograph?

2003-11-23 Thread Ray Beckett
I'm in total agreement with Ellis & thank-you Jason for the informative links.If reading other's correspondence (? voyeurism) appeals then the Correspondence of William Henry Fox Talbot Project http://www.foxtalbot.arts.gla.ac.uk/ might appeal. Ray

Re: [pinhole-discussion] first image of a photograph?

2003-11-23 Thread ellis CORY
If we agree that both Atkins in 1843, using Talbots ideas on photograms and Talbot using photographic images, were both firsts in different areas, then we can replace the lid and tiptoe quietly away !!! Ellis

RE: [pinhole-discussion] first image of a photograph?

2003-11-23 Thread Jason Schlauch
at ??? > Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] first image of a photograph? > > > As I understand the article, Anna Atkins used Talbots photogenic > (shadowgraph) process, this really only gives a outline of > the article placed on sensitive paper. This still leaves > Talbots

Re: [pinhole-discussion] first image of a photograph?

2003-11-23 Thread Ray Beckett
Ellis replied: "Anna Atkins used Talbots photogenic (shadowgraph) process, this really only gives a outline of the article placed on sensitive paper. This still leaves Talbots book to be the first to provide photographs as recognisable images". This is Pandora's photographic box we are lif

Re: [pinhole-discussion] first image of a photograph?

2003-11-22 Thread ellis CORY
As I understand the article, Anna Atkins used Talbots photogenic (shadowgraph) process, this really only gives a outline of the article placed on sensitive paper. This still leaves Talbots book to be the first to provide photographs as recognisable images. Ellis > Regarding John Ptak's post

Re: [pinhole-discussion] first image of a photograph?

2003-11-22 Thread Ray Beckett
Regarding John Ptak's post - I don't know the answer but my first impulse was to access Robert Leggat's 'History of Photography' http://www.rleggat.com/photohistory/ a fantastic resource - there may be additional clues there. I too was under the misapprehension that Fox Talbots 'Pencil of Nature' w

Re: [pinhole-discussion] first image of a photograph?

2003-11-22 Thread Eric Mitchell
Ellis, is correct regard Fox Talbot work and dates. Eric - Original Message - From: "ellis CORY" To: Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 6:45 PM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] first image of a photograph? > I am not sure I understand your question, but the information I

Re: [pinhole-discussion] first image of a photograph?

2003-11-22 Thread ellis CORY
I am not sure I understand your question, but the information I have is that the Photogenic process was invented by Talbot in 1835, it was basically a sensitive paper with an object placed on top, exposed to the sun, developed and fixed. The idea had been tried before, but fixing the image was not