Re: Custom plasma shell

2011-02-10 Thread Ivan Čukić
I'm not sure I see this as Martin did. The thing I agree with is that this can't be plasma. This would first and foremost need to be a new window manager, which would load plasmoids as windows. (so, I agree with the 'hardly possible' statement - implementing a new WM is not a trivial task, far fro

Re: Custom plasma shell

2011-02-10 Thread Mario Fux
Am Donnerstag 10 Februar 2011, 09.28:55 schrieb Ivan Čukić: Morning > I'm not sure I see this as Martin did. > > The thing I agree with is that this can't be plasma. This would first > and foremost need to be a new window manager, which would load > plasmoids as windows. (so, I agree with the 'h

Re: Custom plasma shell

2011-02-10 Thread Ivan Čukić
> Just an uninformed idea. But couldn't the scripting capabilities of Kwin and > plasmoidviewer help to at least do a proof of concept? Instead of writing a > new windows manager from scratch?!? I haven't looked at the scripting API for KWin, so I have no idea how powerful it is. Martin? -- Chee

Problems with getting Krunner tutorial from techbase right

2011-02-10 Thread Liebe Markus (RtP2/TEF72)
Hi there, I am following the tutorial on techbase to create a krunner plugin. Up to now I have succeeded in building the lib, but not in actually enabling the new krunner plugin. The details are in the kde forum: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=93266 Do you have any hints for me on ho

Re: GSoC aspirant

2011-02-10 Thread Viranch Mehta
Hi Artur, I would recommend that in your proposal you try to be as much clear as > possible regarding the objectives like: which plasmoids you plan to > QMLify and how you plan that. > Sure, I plan to QMLify the widgets that come packaged with KDE by default (the plasmoids). I'll list them speci

Re: GSoC aspirant

2011-02-10 Thread Artur de Souza
Quoting Viranch Mehta : > You mean I would also have to change relevant stuff in plasma that I need > for QMLifying the plasmoids? Yep :) Cheers, -- --- http://claimid.com/morpheuz Blog: http://blog.morpheuz.cc PGP: 0xDBEEAAC3 @ wwwkeys.pgp.n

Re: Custom plasma shell

2011-02-10 Thread Marco Martin
On Thursday 10 February 2011, Martin Gräßlin wrote: > Hi, > > sorry for starting playing the bad guy first. Your concept is missing an > important factor: Plasma is not a windowing system, but X is the windowing > system and Plasma is just a set of windows in the other windowing system. > With our

Re: GSoC aspirant

2011-02-10 Thread Marco Martin
On Thursday 10 February 2011, Viranch Mehta wrote: > > this (with our help of course). > > You mean I would also have to change relevant stuff in plasma that I need > for QMLifying the plasmoids? > yes, this could become necessary. also, many things in the qml bindings will have to be added, li

Re: Problems with getting Krunner tutorial from techbase right

2011-02-10 Thread Marco Martin
On Thursday 10 February 2011, Liebe Markus (RtP2/TEF72) wrote: > Hi there, > > I am following the tutorial on techbase to create a krunner plugin. > Up to now I have succeeded in building the lib, but not in actually > enabling the new krunner plugin. > > The details are in the kde forum: > http:

Re: Plasma mediacenter - is it still alive?

2011-02-10 Thread Marco Martin
On Wednesday 09 February 2011, Onur-Hayri Bakici wrote: > On 08.02.2011 23:40, Marco Martin wrote: > > On Tuesday 08 February 2011, Marco Martin wrote: > >>> I've found the techbase-page > >>> http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Plasma/Plasma_Media_Center and a > >>> gitorious projecthttp://gitorious

Re: Custom plasma shell

2011-02-10 Thread Ivan Čukić
> what i see possible of all of this, but not necessarily pretty (nor > efficient;) is having plamoids informed of window geometries and move > themselves accordingly IMO, this would be evil if limited only to plasmoids (honestly, if it was vice versa - windows moving, plasmoids not - it would be

Re: The Plasma team in Bilbao

2011-02-10 Thread Marco Martin
On Thursday 10 February 2011, Aleix Pol wrote: > > If the problem is the dates, maybe we can try to fix it still, but you > > should tell me now. Regarding the "dispersive being all together" part, I > > fully understand as well, I've seen that same problem myself before. I > > asked the organizer

Re: The Plasma team in Bilbao

2011-02-10 Thread Artur de Souza
Quoting Marco Martin : > i could go to either, just not both). +1. So it's just a matter knowing what people prefer. Do we have time to open one of those "web-calendar site" where people vote about the date they prefer/can ? Anybody has any say on this matter? Cheers, -- -

Re: GSoC aspirant

2011-02-10 Thread Daker Fernandes
Hello, I started using the KDE environment last year and it would be nice to contribute with some of the Plasma projects for GSoC (specially with QtComponents QML set). I've been working with Qt/QtQuick in some apps for the last 7 months, and directly into QtComponents since October. I have fluenc

wiki page for Tokamak V

2011-02-10 Thread Marco Martin
Hi al, I've put on http://community.kde.org/Plasma/Tokamak5 a page for tokamak 5 to: * collect ideas on the topics and most important * list of attendees, so please please add yourself there ASAP, also specifying if you prefer it at beginning or end of april. Cheers, Marco Martin ___

Re: The Plasma team in Bilbao

2011-02-10 Thread Nuno Pinheiro
A Quinta, 10 de Fevereiro de 2011 13:24:03 Artur de Souza você escreveu: > Quoting Marco Martin : > > i could go to either, just not both). > > +1. So it's just a matter knowing what people prefer. Do we have time > to open one of those "web-calendar site" where people vote about the > date they p

Re: The Plasma team in Bilbao

2011-02-10 Thread Marco Martin
On Thursday 10 February 2011, Nuno Pinheiro wrote: > A Quinta, 10 de Fevereiro de 2011 13:24:03 Artur de Souza você escreveu: > > Quoting Marco Martin : > > > i could go to either, just not both). > > > > +1. So it's just a matter knowing what people prefer. Do we have time > > to open one of thos

Re: The Plasma team in Bilbao

2011-02-10 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Thursday 10 February 2011 01:00:06 Aleix Pol wrote: > Should I take this silence as a no? > > It's a little frustrating... -.- Sorry, but I didn't get from your initial mail that you wanted to co-host the Plasma sprint with the edu sprint. I thought you just want to have some Plasma people ar

Re: Custom plasma shell

2011-02-10 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Thursday 10 February 2011 11:37:55 Ivan Čukić wrote: > > Just an uninformed idea. But couldn't the scripting capabilities of Kwin > > and plasmoidviewer help to at least do a proof of concept? Instead of > > writing a new windows manager from scratch?!? > > I haven't looked at the scripting API

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Re: New properties for StatusNotifierItem: Accessible Label (1/3)]]

2011-02-10 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Thursday, February 10, 2011 05:39:08 Ted Gould wrote: > Plasma folks, > > I forwarded the discussion that was had about using the title in the > tooltip for the accessible label. While I felt that it was not adequate > I couldn't express why. As per usual, mpt says it better than I, here >

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Re: New properties for StatusNotifierItem: Accessible Label (1/3)]]

2011-02-10 Thread Marco Martin
On Thursday 10 February 2011, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > On Thursday, February 10, 2011 05:39:08 Ted Gould wrote: > > Plasma folks, > > > > I forwarded the discussion that was had about using the title in the > > tooltip for the accessible label. While I felt that it was not adequate > > I could

Re: GSoC ideas needed - 20 days until org application - last call

2011-02-10 Thread todd rme
On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 10:34 PM, Ryan Rix wrote: > On Tue 8 February 2011 18:25:27 todd rme wrote: >> Implement the smart activity switching functionality we were talking >> about earlier, with an API that lets applications and widgets provide >> activity switching hints.  What I mean by "smart ac

Review Request: Enabling "Apply" button in news

2011-02-10 Thread Sinny Kumari
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/100625/ --- Review request for Plasma. Summary --- Enabled "Apply" button in News

Re: Review Request: Make condition icons work in NOAA when conditions are translated

2011-02-10 Thread Lasse Liehu
> On Feb. 7, 2011, 9:30 p.m., Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > nice :) okay, so umm I was wondering if this should or should not be backported to KDE/4.6? - Lasse --- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://git.revi

Re: The Plasma team in Bilbao

2011-02-10 Thread Davide Bettio
Hi, It would be interesting if we plan to discuss about plasma in the education environment. If we are not going to do that I think that it might a bit useless. Anyway for me both places are good. Bye, Davide Bettio. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___

Plasma and qml - branches

2011-02-10 Thread Marco Martin
Hi all, there is a new branch, plasma/declarative in both kdelibs and kde-runtime * in kdelibs, is a library that is used to extract the script engine and bind non object types * in runtime there are out qt components plus imports for really necessary qt stuff that is not available: qimage,qpixm

Re: wiki page for Tokamak V

2011-02-10 Thread Marco Martin
On Thursday 10 February 2011, Marco Martin wrote: > Hi al, > I've put on http://community.kde.org/Plasma/Tokamak5 > a page for tokamak 5 to: > * collect ideas on the topics > and most important > * list of attendees, so please please add yourself there ASAP, also > specifying if you prefer it at be

Re: tokamak five

2011-02-10 Thread Artur de Souza
Quoting Sebastian Kügler : > Alright. Week 17 works for me, if we keep it at 12 people max, logistics will > be a bit easier (we can fit 12 people in the living room hacking, more than > that will be slightly uncomfortable, though). It seems I have a "must go" wedding on the 30th of April, but th

Re: Custom plasma shell

2011-02-10 Thread Luiz Romário Santana Rios
(There's a lot of replies, so I'm going to answer to the topics). As for the "Windows inside plasmoids is ugly" part, when I said my idea was to make applications and plamoids the same thing, I meant it form the POV of the user. Internally, they would remain different -- note that, in my mockups,

Re: Custom plasma shell

2011-02-10 Thread Martin Gräßlin
- Ursprüngliche Mitteilung - > (There's a lot of replies, so I'm going to answer to the topics). > > As for the "Windows inside plasmoids is ugly" part, when I said my idea > was to make applications and plamoids the same thing, I meant it form > the POV of the user. Internally, they woul