Re: Plasma Bug Workflow BOF

Hi Martin, On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Martin Gräßlin wrote: > Hi all, > > given the recent discussion about the bug handling I want to propose a BOF to > define the workflow of bug handling in Plasma. > > I think I can share quite some knowledge on how we were able to tame that > beast of b

Plasma Bug Workflow BOF

Hi all, given the recent discussion about the bug handling I want to propose a BOF to define the workflow of bug handling in Plasma. I think I can share quite some knowledge on how we were able to tame that beast of bugzilla in KWin. I would suggest Thursday, 13:00 before the Plasma Media Cent

[KDE Bugtracking System] REMINDER: current Plasma regressions

Please find below a list of the current regressions reported for Plasma This search was scheduled by myr...@kde.org. Plasma regressions -- Bug 283626: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=283626 Priority: NOR Severity: crash Platform: openSUSE RPMs Assignee: plasma-b...

Re: Plasma Containment default setting

On Thursday 21 June 2012 17:35:07 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Thursday, June 21, 2012 15:21:03 Kevin Ottens wrote: > > On Thursday 21 June 2012 14:37:36 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > > [...] > > > this for me takes precidence over the SLC steps which are: > > > > > > * write more plugins for SLC > > > >

Re: Review Request: DBus-interface for changing wallpapers

--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/105319/ --- (Updated June 22, 2012, 2:07 a.m.) Review request for Plasma. Changes --

Re: When should a bug be considered as a regression or a release_blocker?

On Thursday, June 21, 2012 20:17:50 Martin Gräßlin wrote: > if there is interest in the team, I am willing to do the administrative work > of creating target milestones and disabling outdated ones. I'm doing that > work for kwin anyway and doing it for Plasma would not create much work. cool! than

Re: Review Request: DBus-interface for changing wallpapers

--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/105319/#review14979 --- plasma/desktop/shell/plasmaapp.cpp

Re: Review Request: Fix the minimum size of some applets

--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/105234/#review14977 --- applets/showdashboard/showdashboard.cpp

Re: Review Request: Fix the minimum size of some applets

> On June 14, 2012, 10:33 a.m., Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > applets/timer/timer.cpp, line 49 > > > > > > this will break it in smaller panels. Also the indentation is not correct. > On June 14, 2012, 10:33 a.m., Aar

Re: Review Request: Fix the minimum size of some applets

--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/105234/#review14975 --- Is there any update on this review? - Mark Gaiser On June 13

Re: Review Request: DBus-interface for changing wallpapers

--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/105319/ --- (Updated June 21, 2012, 7:15 p.m.) Review request for Plasma. Descriptio

Re: Re: When should a bug be considered as a regression or a release_blocker?

On Thursday 21 June 2012 17:45:20 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Thursday, June 21, 2012 17:18:15 Martin Gräßlin wrote: > > next. That might work also for Plasma. > > we have done this in past releases. it does work. i'd like to do it again. > but it takes effort, leadership and group cooperation. if t

Re: Review Request: JJ bug 224062 - add switch user check to kickoff leave model

--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/104879/#review14965 --- This review has been submitted with commit e01d8c3478d8768e96a

Plasma Containment default setting

> the ui and services are in the share-like-connect repository. > it's still in playground because still needs improvements in the ui and > backend sides. > the api to advertise content to it is in kactivities tough, so available in > 4.9 already. Okay, thank you! >please post it on http://revie

Review Request: DBus-interface for changing wallpapers

--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/105319/ --- Review request for Plasma. Description --- This patch is for hosting

Re: Team meeting today

On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Thursday, June 21, 2012 16:49:42 Mark wrote: >> Now this won't give the maintainer or any status but it does give an >> idea if a certain component is even maintained. > > that pretty much describes what i do when i want to check in on a

Re: Plasma Containment default setting

On Thursday, June 21, 2012 20:17:12 Varun Herale wrote: > > * will the feature work consistently (multiple screens, per-virtual > > desktop > > containments, etc..) and not just work for some configurations > > I have written some code for this. It hosts > a dbus-int

Re: When should a bug be considered as a regression or a release_blocker?

On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Thursday, June 21, 2012 16:13:32 Mark wrote: >> think we should make releases with random pieces cutted out, or they >> will never be complete" so we don't cut out pieces that don't work yet >> we also don't want to release pieces that do

Re: When should a bug be considered as a regression or a release_blocker?

On Thursday, June 21, 2012 17:18:15 Martin Gräßlin wrote: > next. That might work also for Plasma. we have done this in past releases. it does work. i'd like to do it again. but it takes effort, leadership and group cooperation. -- Aaron J. Seigo signature.asc Description: This is a digitally si

Re: Review Request: Use common plasma components Tooltip in battery monitor

--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/105283/#review14957 --- This review has been submitted with commit ac8552a15ec5a8881e4

Re: Re: When should a bug be considered as a regression or a release_blocker?

On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 5:18 PM, Martin Gräßlin wrote: > On Thursday 21 June 2012 16:56:51 Marco Martin wrote: >> On Thursday 21 June 2012, Mark wrote: >> > >> Both issues are not something that obstruct normal KDE usage, but they >> > >> do render some parts of KDE completely useless. I'm a bit u

Re: When should a bug be considered as a regression or a release_blocker?

On Thursday, June 21, 2012 16:13:32 Mark wrote: > think we should make releases with random pieces cutted out, or they > will never be complete" so we don't cut out pieces that don't work yet > we also don't want to release pieces that don't work. we don't WANT to, but we do. this is the "perfec

Re: When should a bug be considered as a regression or a release_blocker?

On Thursday, June 21, 2012 16:58:28 Mark wrote: > Ehhh, that's a very strange reasoning :p That way you could release a > completely broken KDE SC (like KDE 4.0 was ;p) then developers will this is not why the 4.0 release was made at the point it was, nor is it comparable in scope as marco pointe

Re: Plasma Containment default setting

On Thursday, June 21, 2012 15:27:11 Martin Klapetek wrote: > (think the environments without dragging to desktop). this will require different code paths for each env: setting the desktop wallpaper is not standardized between environments. in kde3 we used dcop calls which were specific to kdeskt

Re: Plasma Containment default setting

On Thursday, June 21, 2012 15:21:03 Kevin Ottens wrote: > On Thursday 21 June 2012 14:37:36 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > [...] > > this for me takes precidence over the SLC steps which are: > > > > * write more plugins for SLC > > > > * get the patches into kdelibs > > Which reminds me I wanted to

Re: Plasma Containment default setting

On Thursday, June 21, 2012 15:20:57 Luca Beltrame wrote: > In data giovedì 21 giugno 2012 15:15:48, Aaron J. Seigo ha scritto: > > it had imports for them, but no components from MobileComponents were > > actually being used .. so: no :) > > Thanks. Just one more question. Does SLC, to be properly

Re: Team meeting today

On Thursday, June 21, 2012 16:49:42 Mark wrote: > Now this won't give the maintainer or any status but it does give an > idea if a certain component is even maintained. that pretty much describes what i do when i want to check in on a given bit of code (not just in plasma) ... -- Aaron J. Seig

Re: Plasma Containment default setting

On Thursday 21 June 2012, Varun Herale wrote: > > * will the feature work consistently (multiple screens, per-virtual > > desktop containments, etc..) and not just work for some configurations > > I have written some code for this. It hosts > a dbus-interface from wh

Re: PMC discussions to move back to #plasma

On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 8:42 PM, Marco Martin wrote: > On Thursday 21 June 2012, Shantanu Tushar Jha wrote: > > this, #plasma-mediacenter shall *no longer* be used for discussions > around > > Plasma Media Center. > > i agree with that, it helps to fight non esistent divisions ;) > yep :) > >

Re: Re: When should a bug be considered as a regression or a release_blocker?

On Thursday 21 June 2012 16:56:51 Marco Martin wrote: > On Thursday 21 June 2012, Mark wrote: > > >> Both issues are not something that obstruct normal KDE usage, but they > > >> do render some parts of KDE completely useless. I'm a bit unsure if i > > >> should mark such bugs as release blockers.

Re: Akademy2012 BoF for WebAccounts

On Thursday 21 June 2012, Alex Fiestas wrote: > Taking a look at the schedule, it seems that the best slot is Monday from > 09:30 to 14:00, we will have a break for lunch between 12:30 and 13:00 (uh > too small maybe?). > > If you think 4h is too much we can do 2h and if needed schedule another >

Re: PMC discussions to move back to #plasma

On Thursday 21 June 2012, Shantanu Tushar Jha wrote: > this, #plasma-mediacenter shall *no longer* be used for discussions around > Plasma Media Center. i agree with that, it helps to fight non esistent divisions ;) > Finally, it will be nice if somebody could add > https://projects.kde.org/proje

Re: When should a bug be considered as a regression or a release_blocker?

On Thursday 21 June 2012, Mark wrote: > > Nobody said we don't want to release pieces that don't work. We do > > release pieces that don't work. Then those bugs are much more visible > > and developers (hopefully) have more motivation to fix them. :) > > > > Just my 2c, > > Jeremy > > Ehhh, tha

Akademy2012 BoF for WebAccounts

Hi there! Sorry for the cross-posting, but this is a topic actually affecting all three mailist. Would be awesome to have a BoF at Akademy2012 about WebAccounts so I can share current plans and we can design together its future. This is a list of topics I would love to discuss: -Present to all

Re: When should a bug be considered as a regression or a release_blocker?

On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 4:44 PM, Jeremy Whiting wrote: > On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Mark wrote: >> On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: >>> On Wednesday, June 20, 2012 22:15:35 Mark wrote: To me the definition of a regression is as follows: A regression is an i

Re: When should a bug be considered as a regression or a release_blocker?

On Thursday 21 June 2012, Mark wrote: > >> Both issues are not something that obstruct normal KDE usage, but they > >> do render some parts of KDE completely useless. I'm a bit unsure if i > >> should mark such bugs as release blockers. > > > > not when they are this minor, no. > > True and i com

Re: Re: Team meeting today

On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Martin Gräßlin wrote: > On Thursday 21 June 2012 14:47:36 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: >> i can see having a list of maintainers for components that are "strongly >> maintained" by an individual, such as the comics applet (to pick something >> completely at random). but t

Plasma Containment default setting

> > * will the feature work consistently (multiple screens, per-virtual desktop > containments, etc..) and not just work for some configurations > > I have written some code for this. It hosts a dbus-interface from which wallpaper plugins can be loaded. From what I've

Re: When should a bug be considered as a regression or a release_blocker?

On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Mark wrote: > On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: >> On Wednesday, June 20, 2012 22:15:35 Mark wrote: >>> To me the definition of a regression is as follows: >>> A regression is an issue that wasn't in the previous release. >> >> that would des

PMC discussions to move back to #plasma

Hi, With the recent talks about merging #active with #plasma, I wondered why have a separate channel for media center. Thanks to Giorgos for reminding this, #plasma-mediacenter shall *no longer* be used for discussions around Plasma Media Center. The primary channel for discussion over PMC will be

Re: When should a bug be considered as a regression or a release_blocker?

On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Wednesday, June 20, 2012 22:15:35 Mark wrote: >> To me the definition of a regression is as follows: >> A regression is an issue that wasn't in the previous release. > > that would describe all new bugs ;) > > a regression is something t

Re: Plasma Containment default setting

On Thursday 21 June 2012, Luca Beltrame wrote: > In data giovedì 21 giugno 2012 15:15:48, Aaron J. Seigo ha scritto: > > it had imports for them, but no components from MobileComponents were > > actually being used .. so: no :) > > Sorry for being a drag but it seems they are used somewhere. ;) >

Re: Plasma Containment default setting

In data giovedì 21 giugno 2012 15:15:48, Aaron J. Seigo ha scritto: > it had imports for them, but no components from MobileComponents were > actually being used .. so: no :) Sorry for being a drag but it seems they are used somewhere. ;) slccomponents/MenuItem.qml requires some bits from plasma

Re: Plasma Containment default setting

On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > > Thing is - is SLC going to be sort of mandatory on desktop and/or active? > > as marco noted, it should imo become part of the default layout and used > as an > integral part of things just like the start menu has been historically. > >

Re: Plasma Containment default setting

On Thursday 21 June 2012 14:37:36 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > [...] > this for me takes precidence over the SLC steps which are: > > * write more plugins for SLC > > * get the patches into kdelibs Which reminds me I wanted to ask: did those patch reach the frameworks branch yet? Or you prefer push the

Re: Plasma Containment default setting

In data giovedì 21 giugno 2012 15:15:48, Aaron J. Seigo ha scritto: > it had imports for them, but no components from MobileComponents were > actually being used .. so: no :) Thanks. Just one more question. Does SLC, to be properly effective, depend on the "Active" patch to kdelibs? Or can it wor

Re: Plasma Containment default setting

On Thursday, June 21, 2012 14:51:51 Luca Beltrame wrote: > In data giovedì 21 giugno 2012 14:37:36, Aaron J. Seigo ha scritto: > > [SLC] > > > * make it part of the default desktop layout > > Does SLC still depend on components from plasma-mobile? it had imports for them, but no components from Mo

Re: Re: Team meeting today

On Thursday 21 June 2012 14:47:36 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > i can see having a list of maintainers for components that are "strongly > maintained" by an individual, such as the comics applet (to pick something > completely at random). but then ... using git i'd be able to figure that out > immediatel

Re: [kdeplasma-addons] applets/fileWatcher: fix the minimum size only on the desktop

On Wednesday, June 13, 2012 15:36:39 Anne-Marie Mahfouf wrote: > Git commit b7eff7326cbe4392bcbeb2c57371efc1b75c421a by Anne-Marie Mahfouf. > Committed on 13/06/2012 at 15:32. > Pushed by annma into branch 'master'. > > fix the minimum size only on the desktop > > CCBUG: 301676 > > M +5-1

Re: Team meeting today

On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Thursday, June 21, 2012 13:23:02 David Edmundson wrote: >> I made a similar form for Plasma is available here: >> http://community.kde.org/Plasma/Maintainership please fill-in as >> appropriate. > > there are 51 plasmoids in kdeplasma-add

Re: Plasma Containment default setting

In data giovedì 21 giugno 2012 14:37:36, Aaron J. Seigo ha scritto: [SLC] > * make it part of the default desktop layout Does SLC still depend on components from plasma-mobile? If so, IMO those it depends on should be moved to some common ground (read: shared between the two). signature.asc Desc

Re: Review Request: Use common plasma components Tooltip in battery monitor

> On June 18, 2012, 3:37 p.m., Viranch Mehta wrote: > > The button size and the hover appearance is different from the original > > one. The IconButton component was made to keep the look of the buttons > > consistent with the original version of the applet. Do we want to change > > this? > >

Re: Team meeting today

Can I ask for some clarification on why my message now have to go through moderation? I'm sure that's new. As far as I'm aware I've been generally courteous and constructive despite all the arguing around. If no-one tells me what I've done wrong I can't improve. If it's an overall change on every

Re: Team meeting today

On Thursday, June 21, 2012 13:23:02 David Edmundson wrote: > I made a similar form for Plasma is available here: > http://community.kde.org/Plasma/Maintainership please fill-in as > appropriate. there are 51 plasmoids in kdeplasma-addons alone. some plasmoids have clear owners (for various reason

Re: Plasma Containment default setting

On Thursday, June 21, 2012 13:03:44 Marco Martin wrote: > do we want to massively introduce its ui before frameworks? i don't think we need to .. from what i can see we need to: * figure out what development will happen as an immediate result of the new team integrations that are happening * ir

Re: Plasma Containment default setting

On Thursday, June 21, 2012 13:48:04 Marco Martin wrote: > as being mandatory.. > i think it should be part of the default workspace in the future, if the > user wants to remove it, he can remove it, but also the systray can be > removed, and there is no fallback. agreed. > maybe using SLC is not

Re: Plasma Containment default setting

On Thursday, June 21, 2012 13:28:58 Martin Klapetek wrote: > Speaking as someone "not used to SLC", do I understand it right, that when > clicking "Like" it will popup a menu letting you select the "Like" action > you like? yes. when you press on one of the 3 icons, you get presented with differe

Re: Team meeting today

On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 8:19 PM, Marco Martin wrote: > Hi all, > this is a very raw synopsis of the meeting, i hope we can now transform it in > something very productive (i think the meeting especially the last part  was > useful) > > The meeting started from the realization that there is an 1% o

Re: Plasma Containment default setting

On Thursday, 2012-06-21, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Wednesday, June 20, 2012 23:54:57 Martin Klapetek wrote: > > I imagine this could then be used in Dolphin's context menu 'Actions' and > > possibly in Gwenview too. Should there be such dbus-interface, I would > > add those patches to Dolphin and

Re: Plasma Containment default setting

On Thursday 21 June 2012, Martin Klapetek wrote: > On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > On Wednesday, June 20, 2012 23:54:57 Martin Klapetek wrote: > > > I imagine this could then be used in Dolphin's context menu 'Actions' > > > and possibly in Gwenview too. > > > > crazy

Re: Plasma Containment default setting

On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Wednesday, June 20, 2012 23:54:57 Martin Klapetek wrote: > > I imagine this could then be used in Dolphin's context menu 'Actions' and > > possibly in Gwenview too. > > crazy idea: what about using SLC for this? Like -> Use as wallpaper

Re: Plasma Containment default setting

On Thursday 21 June 2012, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Wednesday, June 20, 2012 23:54:57 Martin Klapetek wrote: > > I imagine this could then be used in Dolphin's context menu 'Actions' and > > possibly in Gwenview too. > > crazy idea: what about using SLC for this? Like -> Use as wallpaper > > (no

Re: Plasma Containment default setting

On Wednesday, June 20, 2012 23:54:57 Martin Klapetek wrote: > I imagine this could then be used in Dolphin's context menu 'Actions' and > possibly in Gwenview too. crazy idea: what about using SLC for this? Like -> Use as wallpaper (not share because you aren't sharing with anyone; not really con

Re: Team meeting today

On Thursday, June 21, 2012 11:29:55 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Wednesday, June 20, 2012 21:19:35 Marco Martin wrote: > > this is a very raw synopsis of the meeting, i hope we can now transform it > > in something very productive (i think the meeting especially the last part > > was useful) > > tha

Re: Plasma Containment default setting

On Thursday 21 June 2012, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Wednesday, June 20, 2012 23:54:57 Martin Klapetek wrote: > > I imagine this could then be used in Dolphin's context menu 'Actions' and > > possibly in Gwenview too. Should there be such dbus-interface, I would > > add those patches to Dolphin and

Re: Plasma Containment default setting

On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Wednesday, June 20, 2012 23:54:57 Martin Klapetek wrote: > > I imagine this could then be used in Dolphin's context menu 'Actions' and > > possibly in Gwenview too. Should there be such dbus-interface, I would > add > > those patches to

Re: Team meeting today

On Wednesday, June 20, 2012 21:19:35 Marco Martin wrote: > this is a very raw synopsis of the meeting, i hope we can now transform it > in something very productive (i think the meeting especially the last part > was useful) thanks for the summary Marco. at the start of the meeting i also shared

Re: When should a bug be considered as a regression or a release_blocker?

On Wednesday, June 20, 2012 22:15:35 Mark wrote: > To me the definition of a regression is as follows: > A regression is an issue that wasn't in the previous release. that would describe all new bugs ;) a regression is something that worked properly (for whatever that means in the given situatio

Re: Team meeting today

On Thursday, June 21, 2012 10:33:52 Anne-Marie Mahfouf wrote: > What is missing from this discussion is how to use bugzilla efficiently. we need to sort out how we work together first. trying to figure out how people external to the team have their input integrated is something that follows. --

Re: Plasma Containment default setting

On Wednesday, June 20, 2012 23:54:57 Martin Klapetek wrote: > I imagine this could then be used in Dolphin's context menu 'Actions' and > possibly in Gwenview too. Should there be such dbus-interface, I would add > those patches to Dolphin and Gwenview. the things i look at and weigh are: * will

Re: Team meeting today

On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 12:19 PM, Marco Martin wrote: > Hi all, > this is a very raw synopsis of the meeting, i hope we can now transform it in > something very productive (i think the meeting especially the last part  was > useful) I found the meeting somewhere between great and excellent. It ma

Re: Review Request: Plasm qml-components: also highlight the dualstate button on keyboard-focus

--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/105232/ --- (Updated June 20, 2012, 12:15 p.m.) Review request for Plasma. Changes -

Re: Team meeting today

On 06/20/2012 09:19 PM, Marco Martin wrote: Hi all, this is a very raw synopsis of the meeting, i hope we can now transform it in something very productive (i think the meeting especially the last part was useful) The meeting started from the realization that there is an 1% of cases where the d

Re: When should a bug be considered as a regression or a release_blocker?

On Wednesday 20 June 2012, Mark wrote: > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=301854, that bug described the > KGet Piechart applet as being broken. I tested that and verified that > it indeed is completely broken and even renders outside it's applet > space. So i marked that one as release blocker