Re: Introducing Homerun

2012-11-13 Thread Marco Martin
On Monday 12 November 2012, Aurélien Gâteau wrote: > > We are happy to receive any feedback on both appearance and ergonomics. I > know some parts of Homerun definitely need more work, the configure editor > for example is quite clunky: the goal was to have something > feature-complete, but it is

Re: Introducing Homerun

2012-11-13 Thread Marco Martin
On Monday 12 November 2012, Nuno Pinheiro wrote: > On the desktop I positively hate the concept specially in large enough > screens were moving from A to B might require-me to lift my mouse in order > to finish the movement... > > I believe much more in non intrusive launchers such as krunner, me

Re: Introducing Homerun

2012-11-13 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Monday, November 12, 2012 17:02:41 Aurélien Gâteau wrote: > Le dimanche 11 novembre 2012 12:02:58 Aaron J. Seigo a écrit : > > On Friday, November 9, 2012 23:09:35 Aurélien Gâteau wrote: > > > As you can see, it is a fullscreen launcher with content organized in > > > tabs. > > > > i find it to

Re: small regression with new qml pager

2012-11-13 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Monday, November 12, 2012 04:18:37 Aleix Pol wrote: > I can reproduce this problem, although a bit differently. Here dragging Not dragging inside the pager .. dragging from the *task bar* into the pager. What's interesting is that the pager says it accepts those drops (cursor changes to "acce

Re: Review Request: Plasmate: The publisher can now return the error of the cmake. Publisher no longer need the $KDEDIRS

2012-11-13 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
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Re: Review Request: Rework of metadatamusic qml components.

2012-11-13 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
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Re: Introducing Homerun

2012-11-13 Thread Marco Martin
On Tuesday 13 November 2012, Marco Martin wrote: > It would be something that looks way less cluttered than kickoff, but with > not many regressions. > > this is just an idea if anybody is willing to dive into it, personally is > something on the "to try but very low priority" list. Right now i'm

Re: Re: Introducing Homerun

2012-11-13 Thread Alex Fiestas
On Tuesday 13 November 2012 11:35:23 Marco Martin wrote: > On Tuesday 13 November 2012, Marco Martin wrote: > > It would be something that looks way less cluttered than kickoff, but with > > not many regressions. > > > > this is just an idea if anybody is willing to dive into it, personally is > >

Re: Introducing Homerun

2012-11-13 Thread Marco Martin
On Tuesday 13 November 2012, Alex Fiestas wrote: > > hmm, thinking about it, when we'll have the krunner ui rewritten in qml, > > it may just be a dbus method that says krunner "pop up there, with this > > ui package, and with this query" > > > > bam, completely new kickoff for free :p > > I thou

Re: Review Request: Rework of metadatamusic qml components.

2012-11-13 Thread Fabian Riethmayer
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Re: Introducing Homerun

2012-11-13 Thread Nuno Pinheiro
A Terça, 13 de Novembro de 2012 11:21:34 Marco Martin escreveu: > > It would be something that looks way less cluttered than kickoff, but with > not many regressions +++ 1 also we need to think about some intrudutory videos to kde somtimes we wont ve able make all things in kde instant

Re: Introducing Homerun

2012-11-13 Thread Marco Martin
On Tuesday 13 November 2012, Nuno Pinheiro wrote: > A Terça, 13 de Novembro de 2012 11:21:34 Marco Martin escreveu: > > It would be something that looks way less cluttered than kickoff, but > > with not many regressions > > +++ 1 also we need to think about some intrudutory videos to kde >

Re: Re: Introducing Homerun

2012-11-13 Thread Alex Fiestas
On Tuesday 13 November 2012 11:36:48 Nuno Pinheiro wrote: > A Terça, 13 de Novembro de 2012 11:21:34 Marco Martin escreveu: > > It would be something that looks way less cluttered than kickoff, but with > > not many regressions > > +++ 1 also we need to think about some intrudutory videos

Re: Re: Introducing Homerun

2012-11-13 Thread Alex Fiestas
On Tuesday 13 November 2012 11:21:34 Marco Martin wrote: > agree on above points, i'm not sure how much mainstream krunner can be made > (and yes, it has to be way more visible), > even if the text field would be always visible or anyways easily reachable > unfortunately a big part of public still

Re: Introducing Homerun

2012-11-13 Thread Nuno Pinheiro
A Terça, 13 de Novembro de 2012 13:02:43 Marco Martin escreveu: > On Tuesday 13 November 2012, Nuno Pinheiro wrote: > > A Terça, 13 de Novembro de 2012 11:21:34 Marco Martin escreveu: > > > It would be something that looks way less cluttered than kickoff, but > > > with not many regressions > > >

Re: Introducing Homerun

2012-11-13 Thread Nuno Pinheiro
A Terça, 13 de Novembro de 2012 13:02:17 Alex Fiestas escreveu: > On Tuesday 13 November 2012 11:36:48 Nuno Pinheiro wrote: > > A Terça, 13 de Novembro de 2012 11:21:34 Marco Martin escreveu: > > > It would be something that looks way less cluttered than kickoff, but > > > with > > > not many regre

Re: Re: Introducing Homerun

2012-11-13 Thread Alex Fiestas
On Tuesday 13 November 2012 12:53:25 Nuno Pinheiro wrote: > as i siad i dont use the desktop one app at the time I multitack alot at > any given time i have over 10 windows open I see this as one of the > fundamental difrentirators betwin traditional desktop and tablets and > phones, think we shou

Re: Review Request: Rework of metadatamusic qml components.

2012-11-13 Thread Commit Hook
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Re: Re: Introducing Homerun

2012-11-13 Thread Tomaz Canabrava
>From my side ( since I can relate to nuno's ), what I have currently open on my desktop is: Qt Designer, Qt Assistant, KDevelop ( I know that there's an integrated doc view, but I don't like it to be always attached ), Firefox/Chrome ( one of both, zillions of tabs opened ), Bangarang, Dolphin, G

Re: Re: Re: Introducing Homerun

2012-11-13 Thread Alex Fiestas
On Tuesday 13 November 2012 11:26:56 Tomaz Canabrava wrote: > This is what is always open in my 'developer' activity, sometimes I open > three+ dolphin windows ( because It's better to krunner-dolphin-enter than > to ctrl+tab till I find it. ) and close it after using. By default Krunner should ret

Re: Introducing Homerun

2012-11-13 Thread Marco Martin
On Tuesday 13 November 2012, Alex Fiestas wrote: > Most users regularly use less than a dozen applications, and same idea can > probably be applied to activities I think (it is ok to keep an activity I > created 9month ago for a travel I did to Rome, it is not ok to have it in > the interface every

Re: Re: Re: Introducing Homerun

2012-11-13 Thread Tomaz Canabrava
So krunner is broken and I should step in to fix that :) just tried here ( alt+f2, dolphin, repeat 6 times ) and I got a looot of new instances of dolphin ^^ don't know if the attached file will go, but it shows that the 'opened window' is the second option, not the first ( and + never actually di

Re: Introducing Homerun

2012-11-13 Thread Marco Martin
On Tuesday 13 November 2012, Tomaz Canabrava wrote: > So krunner is broken and I should step in to fix that :) > just tried here ( alt+f2, dolphin, repeat 6 times ) and I got a looot of > new instances of dolphin ^^ uhm, gives the correct order here how old is your checkout of kdelibs/workspace?

Re: Introducing Homerun

2012-11-13 Thread Tomaz Canabrava
Platform Version 4.9.3 , latest stable - arch build. 2012/11/13 Marco Martin > On Tuesday 13 November 2012, Tomaz Canabrava wrote: > > So krunner is broken and I should step in to fix that :) > > just tried here ( alt+f2, dolphin, repeat 6 times ) and I got a looot of > > new instances of dolph

Re: Re: Introducing Homerun

2012-11-13 Thread Alex Fiestas
On Tuesday 13 November 2012 12:00:08 Tomaz Canabrava wrote: > Platform Version 4.9.3 , latest stable - arch build. Lol, here works like in Tomaz... Something seems broken then. ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailma

Re: Re: Introducing Homerun

2012-11-13 Thread Martin Gräßlin
Am 13.11.2012 15:08, schrieb Alex Fiestas: On Tuesday 13 November 2012 12:00:08 Tomaz Canabrava wrote: Platform Version 4.9.3 , latest stable - arch build. Lol, here works like in Tomaz... Something seems broken then. is the windows runner activated? ___

Re: Re: Introducing Homerun

2012-11-13 Thread Tomaz Canabrava
Yes, it is... but the focus of the conversation is moving to a krunner bug. I'll report it ( since it's confirmed by me and afiestas ) and try to fix it - back to the correct topic then :) 2012/11/13 Martin Gräßlin > Am 13.11.2012 15:08, schrieb Alex Fiestas: > > On Tuesday 13 November 2012 1

Re: Re: Introducing Homerun

2012-11-13 Thread Alex Fiestas
On Tuesday 13 November 2012 14:41:24 Marco Martin wrote: > On Tuesday 13 November 2012, Alex Fiestas wrote: > > Most users regularly use less than a dozen applications, and same idea can > > probably be applied to activities I think (it is ok to keep an activity I > > created 9month ago for a trave

Re: Re: Re: Introducing Homerun

2012-11-13 Thread Alex Fiestas
On Tuesday 13 November 2012 15:20:44 Martin Gräßlin wrote: > Am 13.11.2012 15:08, schrieb Alex Fiestas: > > On Tuesday 13 November 2012 12:00:08 Tomaz Canabrava wrote: > >> Platform Version 4.9.3 , latest stable - arch build. > > > > Lol, here works like in Tomaz... Something seems broken then. >

Re: Introducing Homerun

2012-11-13 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Tuesday, November 13, 2012 11:54:50 Tomaz Canabrava wrote: > So krunner is broken and I should step in to fix that :) krunner has learned from your past selections -> you selected "start new instance" when you type "dolphin" (or whatever) more than you selected the running window so it priori

Re: Introducing Homerun

2012-11-13 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Tuesday, November 13, 2012 15:29:37 Alex Fiestas wrote: > On Tuesday 13 November 2012 14:41:24 Marco Martin wrote: > > On Tuesday 13 November 2012, Alex Fiestas wrote: > > > http://wstaw.org/m/2012/11/13/plasma-desktopb11622.png > > > > well, the first thing that comes to my mind looking at tha

Re: Introducing Homerun

2012-11-13 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Tuesday, November 13, 2012 12:33:35 Nuno Pinheiro wrote: > Yes this is interesting stuf... The key thing here is how do we pull it of > without anying the user to bits... i plan to run some controlled user testing of this mechanism so we will know for sure and not have to guess. -- Aaron J.

Re: Introducing Homerun

2012-11-13 Thread Nuno Pinheiro
A Terça, 13 de Novembro de 2012 15:29:37 Alex Fiestas escreveu: > On Tuesday 13 November 2012 14:41:24 Marco Martin wrote: > > On Tuesday 13 November 2012, Alex Fiestas wrote: > > > Most users regularly use less than a dozen applications, and same idea > > > can > > > probably be applied to activit

Re: Introducing Homerun

2012-11-13 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Tuesday, November 13, 2012 13:13:36 Alex Fiestas wrote: > On Tuesday 13 November 2012 11:21:34 Marco Martin wrote: > > agree on above points, i'm not sure how much mainstream krunner can be > > made > > (and yes, it has to be way more visible), > > even if the text field would be always visible

Re: Introducing Homerun

2012-11-13 Thread Nuno Pinheiro
A Terça, 13 de Novembro de 2012 15:50:49 Aaron J. Seigo escreveu: > On Tuesday, November 13, 2012 12:33:35 Nuno Pinheiro wrote: > > Yes this is interesting stuf... The key thing here is how do we pull it of > > without anying the user to bits... > > i plan to run some controlled user testing of th

Re: Review Request: Rework of metadatamusic qml components.

2012-11-13 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
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Re: Introducing Homerun

2012-11-13 Thread Nuno Pinheiro
A Terça, 13 de Novembro de 2012 15:56:11 Aaron J. Seigo escreveu: > i don't think the answer is to give people better solutions for bad > patterns ("better hierarchical launchers" in this case), but we need to > recognize that search is still not deeply internalized in the broader user > base and

Re: Re: Introducing Homerun

2012-11-13 Thread Alex Fiestas
On Tuesday 13 November 2012 15:56:11 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Tuesday, November 13, 2012 13:13:36 Alex Fiestas wrote: > > On Tuesday 13 November 2012 11:21:34 Marco Martin wrote: > > > agree on above points, i'm not sure how much mainstream krunner can be > > > made > > > (and yes, it has to be w

Re: Introducing Homerun

2012-11-13 Thread Alex Fiestas
I see that at the moment it has the same kickoff sections which makes sense for an initial release. Have you thought on any alternative? Also, since homerun is super configurable, maybe it will be worth it to make the configuration more discoverable for example by adding a + symbol after the l

Re: Re: Introducing Homerun

2012-11-13 Thread Alex Fiestas
On Tuesday 13 November 2012 15:49:22 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Tuesday, November 13, 2012 15:29:37 Alex Fiestas wrote: > > On Tuesday 13 November 2012 14:41:24 Marco Martin wrote: > > > On Tuesday 13 November 2012, Alex Fiestas wrote: > > > > http://wstaw.org/m/2012/11/13/plasma-desktopb11622.png

Re: Re: Introducing Homerun

2012-11-13 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Tuesday 13 November 2012 14:54:26 Nuno Pinheiro wrote: > so you are comparing bad with worse... not to defend kickoff that > traditionaly I hate, but at least in kickoff i find waldo in the area that > stores waldo like apps.. > > but the main problem is.. they bowth suck, can i just ask "were

Re: Re: Re: Introducing Homerun

2012-11-13 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Tuesday 13 November 2012 16:56:29 Alex Fiestas wrote: > I introduced the Google example because in the Web realm, even the not > digital native search for everything and everywhere and those same people > use bookmarks or other similar mechanism for their favorites. The reality is that "normal"

Re: Review Request: Plasmate: Rename windowswitcher and remote-widgets-browser

2012-11-13 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
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Re: Review Request: Plasmate: Fix the hard coded names of plasmateremoteinstaller and plasmateprevierlog

2012-11-13 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
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Re: Re: Introducing Homerun

2012-11-13 Thread Oliver Henshaw
On 13 November 2012 15:56, Alex Fiestas wrote: > On Tuesday 13 November 2012 15:56:11 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > On Tuesday, November 13, 2012 13:13:36 Alex Fiestas wrote: > > > On Tuesday 13 November 2012 11:21:34 Marco Martin wrote: > > > > agree on above points, i'm not sure how much mainstream

Kickoff-QML in 4.10 ?

2012-11-13 Thread Rick Stockton
Beta tagging comes up on Thursday, but I haven't seen any indication that Kickoff-QML will be merged into 4.10. Per my concept of "Beta", it seems to have slipped again, yes? If so, then I need to migrate https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/106789 forward to 4.10.) Should I also apply to Trunk? _

Review Request: Plasmate: Fix typo on remoteinstaller.ui and give more sane names to labels.

2012-11-13 Thread Antonis Tsiapaliokas
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Re: Introducing Homerun

2012-11-13 Thread Nuno Pinheiro
A Terça, 13 de Novembro de 2012 18:15:51 Martin Gräßlin escreveu: > On Tuesday 13 November 2012 14:54:26 Nuno Pinheiro wrote: > > so you are comparing bad with worse... not to defend kickoff that > > traditionaly I hate, but at least in kickoff i find waldo in the area that > > stores waldo like ap

Re: Review Request: Plasmate: Fix the hard coded names of plasmateremoteinstaller and plasmateprevierlog

2012-11-13 Thread Commit Hook
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Re: Review Request: Plasmate: Rename windowswitcher and remote-widgets-browser

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Re: Review Request: Plasmate: The publisher can now return the error of the cmake. Publisher no longer need the $KDEDIRS

2012-11-13 Thread Commit Hook
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