On Monday 24 August 2009, Marco Martin wrote:
> On Monday 24 August 2009, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > On Saturday 22 August 2009, Emdek wrote:
> > > And KWin method will work on other platforms?
> >
> > yes, other window managers allow dock windows to get focus.
> &
On Monday 24 August 2009, Yuen Hoe Lim wrote:
> So I was wondering if I should be attempting to chip in on all the work
> Diego is doing now
giving Diego a hand would probably be good...
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et from
> zurich airport to the train?
there is a train station below the airport; in fact, you don't even need to
leave the airport at all, you just go down the escalators :) so getting to the
trains at the airport is very easy, and the airport station is one of the main
stations in the c
back in zurich on
the 5th by ~17:00
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ither today or Thursday works for me. tomorrow
i'm busy and friday is "travel to tokamak" day. then i'm at Tokamak for the
next week, which might be a good time to do some Plasmate stuff ;)
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he conference, which we have planned mostly for
presentations. however, as long as we don't do our meeting first thing in the
morning (CEST) i think it should be just fine to hold our meeting on irc to
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ocs once in a while
> saves time, of course. ;-)).
hehe...
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who attends _will_ be presenting on the first day, whether you put
your topic there or not ;) putting your topic up there will help me organize
things better, however.
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code, at present I'm experimenting with plasmoids, is
> not being reflected after restarting plasma-desktop.
maybe the installation path isn't correct?
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On Tuesday 25 August 2009, Shantanu Tushar Jha wrote:
> So guys, how about 1430 UTC on Saturday ?
works great for me if it works for you gusy
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.. in that case i'll catch either the 8:31am or 9:24am train from here
which will put me in Randa at either 11:34 or 11:58 respectively. i'll try for
the 8:31 train so we can all meet up at around the same time at the station :)
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whichever one deals with LUKS partitions; plasma just listens to what they
say.
p.s. bug reports usually go via bugs.kde.org :)
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On Thursday 27 August 2009, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> You're coming from Zürich?
no, i'm comging from Biel (Bienne) and my transfers are Bern -> Visp -> Randa.
are you transferring at Bern or Visp as well?
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nicer :)
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we were going to avoid the bool and instead use
> > > Qt::Alignment?
>
> So only one public method with optional Alignment flag (by default
> alignment would be as now, usually to left edge etc.) and for now accepting
> only Qt::AlignCenter?
well, center, left and right imo.
On August 29, 2009, Emdek wrote:
> On 29-08-2009 at 13:06:20 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > On August 29, 2009, Michal Dutkiewicz wrote:
> >> > On 2009-08-28 21:42:20, Aaron Seigo wrote:
> >> > > /trunk/KDE/kdelibs/plasma/corona.cpp, line 511
> >>
> &g
On August 29, 2009, Emdek wrote:
> On 29-08-2009 at 13:48:31 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > On August 29, 2009, Emdek wrote:
> >> For me there should be option only to center (useful for tool tips and
> >> at
> >> least some popups) or to use current behavior (me
r(this);?
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happens with desktop-settings and that only inherits
> Plasma::Wallpaper.
desktop settings? you mean the control panel in system settings, or?
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On August 29, 2009, David Hubner wrote:
> On Saturday 29 August 2009 15:23:46 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > On August 29, 2009, David Hubner wrote:
> > > Thats ironic i just tried that :) Naaa, does not help.. strange thing
> > > is, the KDirLister call works
On August 29, 2009, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> KUniqueApplication vs KApplication
the easy way to test this would be to change KApplication to
KUniqueApplication in plasmoidviewer and see if that triggers the bug.
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On August 29, 2009, David Hubner wrote:
> On Saturday 29 August 2009 18:37:27 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > On August 29, 2009, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > > KUniqueApplication vs KApplication
> >
> > the easy way to test this would be to change KApplication to
> >
h i have though
i can't make other people admins; have to ask David S. for that)
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On August 31, 2009, Daniel Duris wrote:
> in my app. addSource() doesn't work (error is shown - can't start
> script), setData - no syntax is known for JS
connectSource, not add source :) so:
dataengine("exec").connectSource("/bin/ls", plasmoid)
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On August 31, 2009, Daniel Duris wrote:
> I am developing a plasmoid displaying various logs in JS and I need
> this to make the flow of text automatically.
Plasma::TextBrowser?
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> hmm. can javascript plasmoids use libplasmaclock?
no
> I'm not sure. without
> that a clock would be more work and less fancy (but still possible of
> course).
sure. you have full access to to QPainter and Svgs from JavaScript and along
with the time DataEngine, one should
nts
people from selecting it over and over. we had this exact problem in 4.0.
the KNotification bit looks correct, however.
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On September 1, 2009, 潘卫平(Peter Pan) wrote:
> How about the patch followed?
the applet would need to follow the contents of trash:/ then, so when a file
is trashed in dolphin, konqueror or some other app it would become enabled.
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On September 2, 2009, 潘卫平(Peter Pan) wrote:
> ReparseConfiguration is expensive, but I can't find better way now.
as long as it uses a kconfig file, i don't see another way around that.
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On September 2, 2009, Alessandro Diaferia wrote:
> What about making the kioslave using KSharedConfig?
that only works within the same process.
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On September 2, 2009, Michael Rudolph wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 18:29, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > works for me. before 10am would be ambitious. so perhaps 10am UTC? (which
> > would be 11:00 here in Randa)
>
> Hi Aaron,
>
> if I'm not mistaken Randa uses CEST,
On September 3, 2009, sacha schutz wrote:
> What do you think about adding a default option in all plasmoid that allow
> to enable or disable the background ?
this is already controllable by the plasmoid.
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On September 3, 2009, sacha schutz wrote:
> Le jeudi 3 septembre 2009 23:15:08, Aaron J. Seigo a écrit :
> > On September 3, 2009, sacha schutz wrote:
> > > What do you think about adding a default option in all plasmoid that
> > > allow to enable or disable the b
leDialog.
for applications, either the application launchers (krunner, kickoff,
lancelot, etc) or maybe kwin.
for storage should, nepomuk should be the target
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On September 4, 2009, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> with eyes and ears such to other aroudn you. maybe if you keep hammering
s,such,closed,
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espect that.
but i feel you are going about it completely wrong. enjoy maintaining your
fork. at least we designed plasma to be able to accommodate such approaches
with minimal pain, right?
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n case it is hidden) and set up a notification popup that the
host can then show to the user saying "rsi break activated"
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On September 5, 2009, Daniel Duris wrote:
> creating a spyware? :-)
no. local context gathering, controllable by the user and kept on their own
machine in their own user account, has nothing in common with spyware other
than both are software and both process data.
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e it could very
well be in Nuremberg! thanks to Sebas for starting in on that already...)
will give even more people from our BIG Plasma family a chance to come
together as well and experience what it's like.
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ngs as network byte order...
> aka big-endian.
yes, this would make sense imo. while there is no non-local parts to this
system today, it likely will eventually have to deal with such things.
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on and the RSS Now layout in
very small spaces isn't great. both open the feed on click, however.
feel free to supply patches to improve the layouts i panels.
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> remaining to be implemented, i.e. which were planned but are not yet
> implemented?
we put together a really short list of "things to do next"; Diego, do you have
that still?
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t replicates what's there right now with some
slightly nicer features...
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t Qt can provide when it comes to style sheets. you are then within the
limitations of Qt at that point.
> - Second, if I must override the entire style sheet for the button, how do
> I set the hover style of the button?
what exactly are you trying to achieve?
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> The only part that is not clear to me is where the insert() comes from, but
> maybe you guys know that part anyway? Any ideas?
i'll take a look this afternoon and see if i can't come up with a patch for
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eparate key and
compare against it first. will commit a patch shortly.
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On September 10, 2009, alanm wrote:
> Is there a better way to make these kinds of small adjustments apart from
> style sheets?
set the font style/face/color on the nativeWidget()?
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> > -- Messaggio inoltrato --
> > From: "Aaron J. Seigo"
> > To: plasma-devel@kde.org
> > Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 11:23:26 -0600
> > Subject: Re: Plasmate previewer, again =P
> &
On September 10, 2009, David Faure wrote:
> I finally took the time to investigate the plasma crash that was happening
> so often to me.
can you try the attached patch? thanks.
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ives a FontChange event).. so some work needed in libplasma
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On September 11, 2009, Marco Martin wrote:
> On Friday 11 September 2009, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > On September 10, 2009, alan moore wrote:
> > > Thanks; I tried this, but it didn't work (or else I'm doing it wrong).
> >
> > looking at Plasma::PushB
he best we could do...
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hi ...
i just noticed that kwin's animated show effect only seems to work when i do:
KWindowSystem::setOnAllDesktops(window->winId(), true);
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ving to gitorious as well, i think; in the meantime we
get to 'enjoy' svn :)
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On September 12, 2009, Marco Martin wrote:
> On Friday 11 September 2009, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > On September 11, 2009, Marco Martin wrote:
> > > but the ones thatreally have to use the proxywidget to paint, like the
> > > ones that have to layout text there would
uld be a dynamic lib, private without headers
> installed and would contain what shells/common has today
this should go into workspace/libs/
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On September 13, 2009, Marco Martin wrote:
> On Sunday 13 September 2009, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > On September 13, 2009, Marco Martin wrote:
> > > |-desktop
> > > |
> > > | |-applets
> > > | |-containments
> > > |
> > > | `-shel
ns consistent because as far as they are concerned there only is
one interface.
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On September 14, 2009, Marco Martin wrote:
> uh, and another thing: maybe the widget explorer to be another separate
> library, so in workspace/libs we would have libplasmagenericshell (or
> libplasmageneric) and libplasmawidgetexplorer
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more sense to use the
javascript based interactive console for things like setting the wallpaper.
but that really depends on your use case(s).
p.s. if you want to work on this, i'd highly recommend joining the mailing
list so you can keep up with our efforts in this area.
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On September 14, 2009, Alessandro Diaferia wrote:
> Is it ok for you to commit it?
+1
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Plasmoid JavaScript
> interfaces, including stuff like xml processing, networking etc.
which is great for trusted content; for untrusted content (or for people who
don't want to get neck deep into the full APIs), the simplified JS interface
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blems on the names of widget types etc.
can you provide some concrete examples?
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ple applet JS bindings do not bind the entire API of all
the classes offered, either.
> An additional issue is that if we have these two sets, the
> restricted one should not fail without error messages if someone tests
> privileged APIs but give an error message etc.
well, yes. this is currently
ually be easier than what you have there
right now as there would be no window management at all needed.
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there will be (and already are) multiple instances of those for the
various shells.
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g closer to that with various things we're working on (e.g. remote
widgets, signing of packages, etc) but we're not there yet.
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On September 15, 2009, Marco Martin wrote:
> On Monday 14 September 2009, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > On September 14, 2009, Marco Martin wrote:
> > > uh, and another thing: maybe the widget explorer to be another separate
> > > library, so in workspace/libs we would hav
c or netbook, probably the latter,
> but i suppose the shells folder can return when needed only when needed...
yes; and standaloneplasmoids would belong in generic imho. people want that on
their laptops/desktop too.
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cific id).
> Now the main question is how that split has to place. Do I have to move the
> newly created plasmoid to kdereview first?
no.
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the plasmoid config dialog).
that doesn't sound messed up to me; username in the widget, password safely in
the wallet. do you have a different idea in mind?
(and i do like the idea of being able to set one's identity "globally")
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ch now:
* paints a background
* offers a top level layout to be (ab)used
* provides methods to show and, soon anyways, hide the widget explorer
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s a qreal with values expected
between 0 and 1. anything more fine grained than that would require some
additional work in krunner.
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and Blaa are using separate mutexes, which defeats
the purpose of having one ;)
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aper(path)" since there can be multiple Containments and different
kinds of wallpapers.
there is a signal for wallpapers to listen to that alerts them of a URL
dropped on it that might be able to used, however.
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se. it would need to be defined a bit more,
however, i think. e.g. things like "how do we sort returns from multiple
runners"
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if any, that wallpaper object supports).
this means you'll need to add methods that do this; personally, i'd recommend
starting a new class for the dbus interface that accesses DesktopCorona,
etc.'s public API to do the fun work.
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> just say the day and hour and i will be there :)
same here...
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ok, so we have progress here: it is creating a fork of plasma for each screen.
the next question is: why is the second fork not showing up on your other
screen. hm.
when it runs, if you do `ps aux | grep plasma-desktop` how many entries do you
get?
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> random proposal:
> sunday:17utc?
> (19 italy, 10 vancoucer, 14 recife)
> before? after?
i'll do my best to be there.
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UTC (7am?) and Artur and I would have to
be up and around late on a Friday evening or going back to evening makes more
sense.
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> Perhaps a note in the help text that the URLs are only valid if the applet
> and engine are running as the same user on the same machine?
which means applets would need to check this, but to them the process is 100%
transparent.
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> because you don't have access to the library.
can't you build some QScript bindings for it? then the applet can request that
add-on?
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t;, since
you build on top of them? each foundation would provide a factory for creating
instances of an applet with some QScript hooks that can be exported into the
runtime, perhaps as part of an object named "foundation"?
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bject::disconnect: No such slot
> QObject::dataUpdated(QString,Plasma::DataEngine::Data)
> Object::disconnect: (sender name:
> '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/computer_power_supply_battery_C1F3')
none of these are actually fatal or even errors afaik.
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with 1 == "target has been reached"?
worth experimenting with, in any case.
> 2) we need a way to destroy the hover when the mouse leaves all items; i
as marco notes, this really isn't needed. just call hide or setTarget(0)
yourself.
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at attention it gets is by people who haven't
had much bindings experience in the past. there's some real big picture
thinking missing here.
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look at the existing delegate in libplasma, you can see some of
the current requirements. and again, Jacopo and Giulio are working on the
device notifier to take it in this direction, so maybe they could end up
creating a nice generic list widget out of that for use by others?
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On September 20, 2009, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> On September 19, 2009, Jacopo De Simoi wrote:
> > 1) we need to activate the items on hover, but with the itemBackground
> > animation delay, hoverEvent is not good anymore to track that. I can see
> > two solutons: - itemB
reedom on how to manage, group, etc.
Applets, focusing these kinds of efforts there would make a lot more sense.
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ght be a nice add to the current events column?
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he design goals for the handles?
* provide access to close, maximize and configure. do we want a way to
collapse an applet too? that's probably not strictly necessary.
* finger friendly? (this may make it significantly harder to keep the spacing
nice; perhaps there could be a size adjust
that
> > what we can commit to in the longer term.
>
> Of course. But if view widgets were exported from kdelibs, they could use
> the private extended style.
yes
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by hand. it would be nice to
have something generic that can be shared. and yes, it will likely be thrown
away eventually due to Qt always being about a year behind what our needs are.
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yes, and that's really probably the way to go about it. use cases would
probably help define what direction to actually take.
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On September 20, 2009, Artur Souza (MoRpHeUz) wrote:
> What do you think about ?
until the security checking is in place, this is premature. should check with
pinda on this...
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rwhelming
majority at this point i believe).
and yes, putting the handle as a child of the applet marked as "stack under"
really seems to be a good way to do this.
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