ngraham added a comment.
Yeah, this definitely morphed into a more general discussion about Breeze
design, and a desire to make lists look somewhat more like the screenshot you
posted, Roman (in terms of borders and lines; no discussion yet on background
color).
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romangg added a comment.
I agree with you @ngraham that the current design is not optimal and is not
standardized enough in our HIG nor in practical usage by KDE apps and Plasma.
But simply changing the default and by that adding more frames
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ngraham added a comment.
Wow, I didn't know what a minefield I was stepping into with this topic...
but I believe my suspicions are confirmed that this design choice represented a
compromise that did not satisfy everyone--hence the option. I can see now that
dhaumann added a comment.
I as someone being around for 15 years now also immediately thought "huh? Why
this forth and back and forth..."?
I believe you need much more investigation here and discussion with the
visual design group, maybe a blog asking about what people like more.
hpereiradacosta added a comment.
Note: I am not saying that the current design is the best one. However it was
designed as an improvement to the framed one. Reverting to the framed version
is basically discarding this work. I would rather see some work done on
improving upon what has been
hpereiradacosta added a comment.
Note that there is no bug report, to my knowledge, complaining about this.
(neither usability wise nor design wise).
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R31 Breeze
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borders-around-settings-window-side-panels (branched from master)
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hpereiradacosta added a comment.
Maybe it is just me who has been around for too long ...
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R31 Breeze
BRANCH
borders-around-settings-window-side-panels (branched from master)
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https://phabricator.kde.org/D12835
To: ngraham, andreaska
Cc: hpereiradacosta,
hpereiradacosta added a comment.
This is really interesting how things go back and forth if you wait long
enough ...
Removing this frame (by default) was a _big_ thing at the time breeze was
designed, and there was countless discussion on how to do it.
Wait five years, and the same
rkflx added a comment.
If you revert a design decision, your summary should include a reference to
the arguments of the original decision, a justification for changing it back
again based on those, and you should try to get consent from the original
authors and designers.
In general
ngraham added a subscriber: abetts.
ngraham added a comment.
I wasn't around for the KDE4/oxygen days, so I wasn't aware this represented
a reversion of anything; I just think this patch results in better visual
design that the status quo.
Breeze may be a minimalistic theme, but
rkflx added a comment.
Is it really necessary to revert design decisions made for Breeze (compared
to its predecessor Oxygen)? FWIW, I find the "after" screenshots look quite
dated, and I cannot see any functional or visual improvement.
In addition, I find the overall design direction
cfeck added a comment.
While I also use this setting, we probably should not make it default, unless
the QtQuick dialogs (try desktop RMB > Configure Desktop ...) also respects
this setting.
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R31 Breeze
REVISION DETAIL
https://phabricator.kde.org/D12835
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REVISION SUMMARY
This patch changes the defaults to draw borders around side panels in
settings windows.
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