Re: RFC: plasma logo as start menu icon and ksplash logo

2016-06-02 Thread Ivan Čukić
> Your argument above exactly shows to me why this _is_ related to the > rebranding: You seeing Plasma's launcher specifically as an "entrance to Rebranding was about KDE is the community, not the software. It is *not* about "Plasma works as well with non-KDE software as with the KDE-software".

Re: RFC: plasma logo as start menu icon and ksplash logo

2016-05-31 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On 31.05.2016 22:38, Ivan Čukić wrote: Hi all, There are two main reasons why I'm against this (regardless of what ends up being plasma logo, and regardless of whether it will be pretty or not - the KDE logo would not win any beauty pageants :) ): - (as previously mentioned) the gear-logo is

Re: RFC: plasma logo as start menu icon and ksplash logo

2016-05-31 Thread Harald Sitter
On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 10:38 PM, Ivan Čukić wrote: > Microsoft is not Windows (they share the logo) Not that I feel we need to discuss this further, but they do not share the logo. The actual windows logo changes between iterations and has since forever been the four tiles

Re: RFC: plasma logo as start menu icon and ksplash logo

2016-05-31 Thread Ivan Čukić
Hi all, There are two main reasons why I'm against this (regardless of what ends up being plasma logo, and regardless of whether it will be pretty or not - the KDE logo would not win any beauty pageants :) ): - (as previously mentioned) the gear-logo is a recognizable brand (easy to spot on on

Re: RFC: plasma logo as start menu icon and ksplash logo

2016-05-31 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On 03.02.2016 18:31, Marco Martin wrote: On Wednesday 03 February 2016 09:10:06 Dirk Hohndel wrote: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-jwBzU1YZWLI/U8U2E1nDM8I/mfY/jDbBMq9GkP4/ s1600/plasma-5-banner.png As someone with a more "outside" perspective... boy that one is ugly. And really doesn't

Re: RFC: plasma logo as start menu icon and ksplash logo

2016-02-13 Thread Jens Reuterberg
As the one responsible for the logo work (since Uri who made that and other bits is in the VDG) I should probably shime in here. The three dots and the arrow is simply because of the connections to the K logo. The reasoning for it is to make it flexible (do note that we came in blind into

Re: RFC: plasma logo as start menu icon and ksplash logo

2016-02-03 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Wednesday, February 3, 2016 4:59:18 PM CET Marco Martin wrote: > Hi all, > This is just an idea: since our branding of the desktop offer as "Plasma" > seems to start to work, but still needs work, one of the first points that > come to mind speaking about branding is the logo. > > What I'm

Re: RFC: plasma logo as start menu icon and ksplash logo

2016-02-03 Thread Martin Klapetek
On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 12:16 PM, Ivan Čukić wrote: > > @Offtopic: What happened to kde.org revamp? > >From what I understood, the neon website is supposed to be a proving ground for the new kde.org. Cheers -- Martin Klapetek | KDE Developer

Re: RFC: plasma logo as start menu icon and ksplash logo

2016-02-03 Thread Marco Martin
On Wednesday 03 February 2016 16:24:10 David Edmundson wrote: > If you mean this one? > https://dot.kde.org/sites/dot.kde.org/files/plasma-mobile-logo.png > Sure. > > Anything more radical I'm against as it breaks not only our current > branding, but all screenshot based tutorials. the problem

Re: RFC: plasma logo as start menu icon and ksplash logo

2016-02-03 Thread kainz.a
it's funny that you discuss about branding and nobody of the plasma dev's know HIS logo. so the discussion should not be which logo and why nobody knows the plasma brand. the question should be we need a brand and therefore we need logos for defined sizes, banners, community stuff (t-shirt,...)

Re: RFC: plasma logo as start menu icon and ksplash logo

2016-02-03 Thread Dirk Hohndel
On Wed, Feb 03, 2016 at 05:48:40PM +0100, Marco Martin wrote: > On Wednesday 03 February 2016 16:24:10 David Edmundson wrote: > > If you mean this one? > > https://dot.kde.org/sites/dot.kde.org/files/plasma-mobile-logo.png > > Sure. > > > > Anything more radical I'm against as it breaks not only

Re: RFC: plasma logo as start menu icon and ksplash logo

2016-02-03 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
I had wanted to CC the VDG list, but I used the wrong address. Now with the correct one. On Mittwoch, 3. Februar 2016 18:16:01 CET Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > On Mittwoch, 3. Februar 2016 16:24:10 CET David Edmundson wrote: > If you mean this one? >

Re: RFC: plasma logo as start menu icon and ksplash logo

2016-02-03 Thread Ivan Čukić
> If you mean this one? > https://dot.kde.org/sites/dot.kde.org/files/plasma-mobile-logo.png > Sure. This one I'm really against. Every time someone posts it (especially the colured version), a fairy dies. For those of you that do not believe in fairies, just imagine kittens dying. :) > Anything

Re: RFC: plasma logo as start menu icon and ksplash logo

2016-02-03 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Mittwoch, 3. Februar 2016 16:24:10 CET David Edmundson wrote: > If you mean this one? > https://dot.kde.org/sites/dot.kde.org/files/plasma-mobile-logo.png > Sure. No, not that one. That one: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/95/

Re: RFC: plasma logo as start menu icon and ksplash logo

2016-02-03 Thread Marco Martin
On Wednesday 03 February 2016 09:10:06 Dirk Hohndel wrote: > > http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-jwBzU1YZWLI/U8U2E1nDM8I/mfY/jDbBMq9GkP4/ > > s1600/plasma-5-banner.png > As someone with a more "outside" perspective... boy that one is ugly. And > really doesn't provide a lot of "recognizability".

Re: RFC: plasma logo as start menu icon and ksplash logo

2016-02-03 Thread Ivan Čukić
> And if I go to https://www.kde.org/workspaces/plasmadesktop/ I don't see UGH, that *still* shows plasma 4.x :D Cheers, Ivan @Offtopic: What happened to kde.org revamp? ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org

Re: RFC: plasma logo as start menu icon and ksplash logo

2016-02-03 Thread kainz.a
2016-02-03 19:25 GMT+01:00 Ivan Čukić : > p.s. Mind that when people say 'I use KDE', they usually think they > are using Plasma, Dolphin, KTp, Okular, Konsole, etc. One of the > /problems/ is that Linux users are spoilt, and started to consider all > the default applications

Re: RFC: plasma logo as start menu icon and ksplash logo

2016-02-03 Thread Marco Martin
On Wednesday 03 February 2016 16:24:10 David Edmundson wrote: > If you mean this one? > https://dot.kde.org/sites/dot.kde.org/files/plasma-mobile-logo.png > Sure. > > Anything more radical I'm against as it breaks not only our current > branding, but all screenshot based tutorials. > > David

Re: RFC: plasma logo as start menu icon and ksplash logo

2016-02-03 Thread Ivan Čukić
@Marco > the problem is going the last mile to make people stop > saying "I use KDE" :p I'm not sure this warrants killing what we have now. As someone mentioned before, we are not the only ones using a community/company logo for this. I would like a nicer KDE logo (like Gnome people did back in

Re: RFC: plasma logo as start menu icon and ksplash logo

2016-02-03 Thread Ivan Čukić
p.s. Mind that when people say 'I use KDE', they usually think they are using Plasma, Dolphin, KTp, Okular, Konsole, etc. One of the /problems/ is that Linux users are spoilt, and started to consider all the default applications as a part of the operating system - from the desktop, to music

Re: RFC: plasma logo as start menu icon and ksplash logo

2016-02-03 Thread David Edmundson
If you mean this one? https://dot.kde.org/sites/dot.kde.org/files/plasma-mobile-logo.png Sure. Anything more radical I'm against as it breaks not only our current branding, but all screenshot based tutorials. David ___ Plasma-devel mailing list

RFC: plasma logo as start menu icon and ksplash logo

2016-02-03 Thread Marco Martin
Hi all, This is just an idea: since our branding of the desktop offer as "Plasma" seems to start to work, but still needs work, one of the first points that come to mind speaking about branding is the logo. What I'm proposing is to change the K logo on start menus and ksplash (and any other