On Tuesday, November 13, 2012 11:54:50 Tomaz Canabrava wrote:
> So krunner is broken and I should step in to fix that :)
> just tried here ( alt+f2, dolphin, repeat 6 times ) and I got a looot of new
> instances of dolphin ^^
That's a feature, not a bug. KRunner remembers what you "always" do. Cho
On Wednesday, November 14, 2012 11:30:58 Aurélien Gâteau wrote:
> > > * Browsable models
> > > If you list the content of a dir
> >
> > I would stick to the standard directory listing model for this rather than
> > invent something new. Search returns from a Runner may return a directory;
> > click
On Tuesday 13 November 2012, Alex Fiestas wrote:
> In another topic, something I specially like from homerun is its "Show all
> apps" view:
> http://wstaw.org/m/2012/11/13/plasma-desktopb11622.png
just for the records, this screenshot shows a bug in PlasmaExtras.ScrollArea,
bottom border with a w
On Thursday, November 15, 2012 14:47:18 Alex Fiestas wrote:
> On Wednesday 14 November 2012 09:35:48 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > if you search for "webaccounts" in krunner, what do you get?
>
> Well, we have a few issues with the runners involved on this, so the results
> are not perfect.
heh.. yes
On Wednesday 14 November 2012 09:35:48 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> if you search for "webaccounts" in krunner, what do you get?
>
Well, we have a few issues with the runners involved on this, so the results
are not perfect.
Nevertheless the item I'm looking for appears on the bottom and I have to
s
Le jeudi 15 novembre 2012 10:19:11 Marco Martin a écrit :
> On Wednesday 14 November 2012, Aurélien Gâteau wrote:
> > > I see that listview has a section property that would be exactly what is
> > > needed, while gridview doesn't, meh
> >
> > Agreed, I wish listview had a section property.
> >
>
On Wednesday 14 November 2012, Aurélien Gâteau wrote:
> > I see that listview has a section property that would be exactly what is
> > needed, while gridview doesn't, meh
>
> Agreed, I wish listview had a section property.
>
> > in this case may be worth a proxymodel?
>
> How would this proxymod
Le mercredi 14 novembre 2012 16:31:19 Aaron J. Seigo a écrit :
> On Wednesday, November 14, 2012 15:05:09 Aurélien Gâteau wrote:
> > Le mercredi 14 novembre 2012 12:33:55 Aaron J. Seigo a écrit :
> > > On Wednesday, November 14, 2012 11:30:58 Aurélien Gâteau wrote:
> > > > Le mardi 13 novembre 2012
On Wednesday, November 14, 2012 15:05:09 Aurélien Gâteau wrote:
> Le mercredi 14 novembre 2012 12:33:55 Aaron J. Seigo a écrit :
> > On Wednesday, November 14, 2012 11:30:58 Aurélien Gâteau wrote:
> > > Le mardi 13 novembre 2012 11:23:00 Aaron J. Seigo a écrit :
> > > > krunnermodel, a Qt model tha
Le mercredi 14 novembre 2012 15:26:03 Marco Martin a écrit :
> On Wednesday 14 November 2012, Aurélien Gâteau wrote:
> > > if you need to be able to group by runners, add that to the existing
> > > implementation. how does the model in homerun facilitate grouping by
> > > runner?
> >
> > In a scar
On Wednesday 14 November 2012, Aurélien Gâteau wrote:
> > if you need to be able to group by runners, add that to the existing
> > implementation. how does the model in homerun facilitate grouping by
> > runner?
>
> In a scary way... you know how QML is not really handy to deal with tree
> models:
Le mardi 13 novembre 2012 16:59:59 Alex Fiestas a écrit :
> I see that at the moment it has the same kickoff sections which makes sense
> for an initial release.
>
> Have you thought on any alternative?
I would like the "Files" tab to become something which shows all recent
document activity.
>
Le mercredi 14 novembre 2012 12:53:11 Marco Martin a écrit :
> On Wednesday 14 November 2012, Aurélien Gâteau wrote:
> > > krunnermodel, a Qt model that comes with a QML component plugin (so you
> > > can just import and use it directly) is in
> > > kde-runtime/plasma/declarativeimports
> >
> > I
Le mercredi 14 novembre 2012 12:33:55 Aaron J. Seigo a écrit :
> On Wednesday, November 14, 2012 11:30:58 Aurélien Gâteau wrote:
> > Le mardi 13 novembre 2012 11:23:00 Aaron J. Seigo a écrit :
> > > krunnermodel, a Qt model that comes with a QML component plugin (so you
> > > can
> > > just import
Le mardi 13 novembre 2012 17:58:24 Oliver Henshaw a écrit :
> This discussion reminded me of
> https://blog.mozilla.org/faaborg/2009/10/13/browsing-your-personal-web/which
> is about search & browse interfaces. Hope it's food for thought for anyone
> who hasn't seen it before - it certainly struck
On Wednesday 14 November 2012, Aurélien Gâteau wrote:
> > krunnermodel, a Qt model that comes with a QML component plugin (so you
> > can just import and use it directly) is in
> > kde-runtime/plasma/declarativeimports
>
> I know about this model. We used it in the beginning, I even contributed a
On Wednesday, November 14, 2012 11:30:58 Aurélien Gâteau wrote:
> Le mardi 13 novembre 2012 11:23:00 Aaron J. Seigo a écrit :
> > krunnermodel, a Qt model that comes with a QML component plugin (so you
> > can
> > just import and use it directly) is in
> > kde-runtime/plasma/declarativeimports
> I
A Quarta, 14 de Novembro de 2012 09:18:42 Aaron J. Seigo escreveu:
> On Tuesday, November 13, 2012 14:58:36 Nuno Pinheiro wrote:
> > I'm a fan of some how making the user happy by making part of
> > the discover process his, and not us teling him stuf.
>
> i agree that it is possible to give too m
Le lundi 12 novembre 2012 17:21:17 Nuno Pinheiro a écrit :
> Don't take my criticism the wrong way.
No worry :)
[snip]
> With all of that said allot of people use their desktop in deeply different
> ways than what I do, so :) probably allot of people will like it so ;)
> take what I say th
Le mardi 13 novembre 2012 11:23:00 Aaron J. Seigo a écrit :
> > > > One of the main differences between Homerun sources and Plasma runners
> > > > is
> > > > that sources can provide default content
> > >
> > > as can runners (for many releases now). a Runner can define its default
> > > syntax, a
On Tuesday, November 13, 2012 16:56:29 Alex Fiestas wrote:
> On Tuesday 13 November 2012 15:56:11 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > On Tuesday, November 13, 2012 13:13:36 Alex Fiestas wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 13 November 2012 11:21:34 Marco Martin wrote:
> > > > agree on above points, i'm not sure how much
On Tuesday, November 13, 2012 14:58:36 Nuno Pinheiro wrote:
> I'm a fan of some how making the user happy by making part of
> the discover process his, and not us teling him stuf.
i agree that it is possible to give too much information leading to the user
feeling like they are spending too much
On Tuesday, November 13, 2012 17:05:02 Alex Fiestas wrote:
> So a 2level tree with the amount of branches and leaves per branches we have
> in kickoff is scientifically proved to be better than a grid with the same
> amount of leaves?
this question is malformed.
it depends on the number of leaves
A Terça, 13 de Novembro de 2012 18:15:51 Martin Gräßlin escreveu:
> On Tuesday 13 November 2012 14:54:26 Nuno Pinheiro wrote:
> > so you are comparing bad with worse... not to defend kickoff that
> > traditionaly I hate, but at least in kickoff i find waldo in the area that
> > stores waldo like ap
On 13 November 2012 15:56, Alex Fiestas wrote:
> On Tuesday 13 November 2012 15:56:11 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > On Tuesday, November 13, 2012 13:13:36 Alex Fiestas wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 13 November 2012 11:21:34 Marco Martin wrote:
> > > > agree on above points, i'm not sure how much mainstream
On Tuesday 13 November 2012 16:56:29 Alex Fiestas wrote:
> I introduced the Google example because in the Web realm, even the not
> digital native search for everything and everywhere and those same people
> use bookmarks or other similar mechanism for their favorites.
The reality is that "normal"
On Tuesday 13 November 2012 14:54:26 Nuno Pinheiro wrote:
> so you are comparing bad with worse... not to defend kickoff that
> traditionaly I hate, but at least in kickoff i find waldo in the area that
> stores waldo like apps..
>
> but the main problem is.. they bowth suck, can i just ask "were
On Tuesday 13 November 2012 15:49:22 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 13, 2012 15:29:37 Alex Fiestas wrote:
> > On Tuesday 13 November 2012 14:41:24 Marco Martin wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 13 November 2012, Alex Fiestas wrote:
> > > > http://wstaw.org/m/2012/11/13/plasma-desktopb11622.png
I see that at the moment it has the same kickoff sections which makes sense
for an initial release.
Have you thought on any alternative?
Also, since homerun is super configurable, maybe it will be worth it to make
the configuration more discoverable for example by adding a + symbol after the
l
On Tuesday 13 November 2012 15:56:11 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 13, 2012 13:13:36 Alex Fiestas wrote:
> > On Tuesday 13 November 2012 11:21:34 Marco Martin wrote:
> > > agree on above points, i'm not sure how much mainstream krunner can be
> > > made
> > > (and yes, it has to be w
A Terça, 13 de Novembro de 2012 15:56:11 Aaron J. Seigo escreveu:
> i don't think the answer is to give people better solutions for bad
> patterns ("better hierarchical launchers" in this case), but we need to
> recognize that search is still not deeply internalized in the broader user
> base and
A Terça, 13 de Novembro de 2012 15:50:49 Aaron J. Seigo escreveu:
> On Tuesday, November 13, 2012 12:33:35 Nuno Pinheiro wrote:
> > Yes this is interesting stuf... The key thing here is how do we pull it of
> > without anying the user to bits...
>
> i plan to run some controlled user testing of th
On Tuesday, November 13, 2012 13:13:36 Alex Fiestas wrote:
> On Tuesday 13 November 2012 11:21:34 Marco Martin wrote:
> > agree on above points, i'm not sure how much mainstream krunner can be
> > made
> > (and yes, it has to be way more visible),
> > even if the text field would be always visible
A Terça, 13 de Novembro de 2012 15:29:37 Alex Fiestas escreveu:
> On Tuesday 13 November 2012 14:41:24 Marco Martin wrote:
> > On Tuesday 13 November 2012, Alex Fiestas wrote:
> > > Most users regularly use less than a dozen applications, and same idea
> > > can
> > > probably be applied to activit
On Tuesday, November 13, 2012 12:33:35 Nuno Pinheiro wrote:
> Yes this is interesting stuf... The key thing here is how do we pull it of
> without anying the user to bits...
i plan to run some controlled user testing of this mechanism so we will know
for sure and not have to guess.
--
Aaron J.
On Tuesday, November 13, 2012 15:29:37 Alex Fiestas wrote:
> On Tuesday 13 November 2012 14:41:24 Marco Martin wrote:
> > On Tuesday 13 November 2012, Alex Fiestas wrote:
> > > http://wstaw.org/m/2012/11/13/plasma-desktopb11622.png
> >
> > well, the first thing that comes to my mind looking at tha
On Tuesday, November 13, 2012 11:54:50 Tomaz Canabrava wrote:
> So krunner is broken and I should step in to fix that :)
krunner has learned from your past selections -> you selected "start new
instance" when you type "dolphin" (or whatever) more than you selected the
running window so it priori
On Tuesday 13 November 2012 15:20:44 Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> Am 13.11.2012 15:08, schrieb Alex Fiestas:
> > On Tuesday 13 November 2012 12:00:08 Tomaz Canabrava wrote:
> >> Platform Version 4.9.3 , latest stable - arch build.
> >
> > Lol, here works like in Tomaz... Something seems broken then.
>
On Tuesday 13 November 2012 14:41:24 Marco Martin wrote:
> On Tuesday 13 November 2012, Alex Fiestas wrote:
> > Most users regularly use less than a dozen applications, and same idea can
> > probably be applied to activities I think (it is ok to keep an activity I
> > created 9month ago for a trave
Yes, it is... but the focus of the conversation is moving to a krunner bug.
I'll report it ( since it's confirmed by me and afiestas ) and try to fix
it - back to the correct topic then :)
2012/11/13 Martin Gräßlin
> Am 13.11.2012 15:08, schrieb Alex Fiestas:
>
> On Tuesday 13 November 2012 1
Am 13.11.2012 15:08, schrieb Alex Fiestas:
On Tuesday 13 November 2012 12:00:08 Tomaz Canabrava wrote:
Platform Version 4.9.3 , latest stable - arch build.
Lol, here works like in Tomaz... Something seems broken then.
is the windows runner activated?
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On Tuesday 13 November 2012 12:00:08 Tomaz Canabrava wrote:
> Platform Version 4.9.3 , latest stable - arch build.
Lol, here works like in Tomaz... Something seems broken then.
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2012/11/13 Marco Martin
> On Tuesday 13 November 2012, Tomaz Canabrava wrote:
> > So krunner is broken and I should step in to fix that :)
> > just tried here ( alt+f2, dolphin, repeat 6 times ) and I got a looot of
> > new instances of dolph
On Tuesday 13 November 2012, Tomaz Canabrava wrote:
> So krunner is broken and I should step in to fix that :)
> just tried here ( alt+f2, dolphin, repeat 6 times ) and I got a looot of
> new instances of dolphin ^^
uhm, gives the correct order here
how old is your checkout of kdelibs/workspace?
So krunner is broken and I should step in to fix that :)
just tried here ( alt+f2, dolphin, repeat 6 times ) and I got a looot of
new instances of dolphin ^^
don't know if the attached file will go, but it shows that the 'opened
window' is the second option, not the first ( and + never actually di
On Tuesday 13 November 2012, Alex Fiestas wrote:
> Most users regularly use less than a dozen applications, and same idea can
> probably be applied to activities I think (it is ok to keep an activity I
> created 9month ago for a travel I did to Rome, it is not ok to have it in
> the interface every
On Tuesday 13 November 2012 11:26:56 Tomaz Canabrava wrote:
> This is what is always open in my 'developer' activity, sometimes I open
> three+ dolphin windows ( because It's better to krunner-dolphin-enter than
> to ctrl+tab till I find it. ) and close it after using.
By default Krunner should ret
>From my side ( since I can relate to nuno's ), what I have currently open
on my desktop is:
Qt Designer, Qt Assistant, KDevelop ( I know that there's an integrated doc
view, but I don't like it to be always attached ), Firefox/Chrome ( one of
both, zillions of tabs opened ), Bangarang, Dolphin, G
On Tuesday 13 November 2012 12:53:25 Nuno Pinheiro wrote:
> as i siad i dont use the desktop one app at the time I multitack alot at
> any given time i have over 10 windows open I see this as one of the
> fundamental difrentirators betwin traditional desktop and tablets and
> phones, think we shou
A Terça, 13 de Novembro de 2012 13:02:17 Alex Fiestas escreveu:
> On Tuesday 13 November 2012 11:36:48 Nuno Pinheiro wrote:
> > A Terça, 13 de Novembro de 2012 11:21:34 Marco Martin escreveu:
> > > It would be something that looks way less cluttered than kickoff, but
> > > with
> > > not many regre
A Terça, 13 de Novembro de 2012 13:02:43 Marco Martin escreveu:
> On Tuesday 13 November 2012, Nuno Pinheiro wrote:
> > A Terça, 13 de Novembro de 2012 11:21:34 Marco Martin escreveu:
> > > It would be something that looks way less cluttered than kickoff, but
> > > with not many regressions
> >
>
On Tuesday 13 November 2012 11:21:34 Marco Martin wrote:
> agree on above points, i'm not sure how much mainstream krunner can be made
> (and yes, it has to be way more visible),
> even if the text field would be always visible or anyways easily reachable
> unfortunately a big part of public still
On Tuesday 13 November 2012 11:36:48 Nuno Pinheiro wrote:
> A Terça, 13 de Novembro de 2012 11:21:34 Marco Martin escreveu:
> > It would be something that looks way less cluttered than kickoff, but with
> > not many regressions
>
> +++ 1 also we need to think about some intrudutory videos
On Tuesday 13 November 2012, Nuno Pinheiro wrote:
> A Terça, 13 de Novembro de 2012 11:21:34 Marco Martin escreveu:
> > It would be something that looks way less cluttered than kickoff, but
> > with not many regressions
>
> +++ 1 also we need to think about some intrudutory videos to kde
>
A Terça, 13 de Novembro de 2012 11:21:34 Marco Martin escreveu:
>
> It would be something that looks way less cluttered than kickoff, but with
> not many regressions
+++ 1 also we need to think about some intrudutory videos to kde
somtimes we wont ve able make all things in kde instant
On Tuesday 13 November 2012, Alex Fiestas wrote:
> > hmm, thinking about it, when we'll have the krunner ui rewritten in qml,
> > it may just be a dbus method that says krunner "pop up there, with this
> > ui package, and with this query"
> >
> > bam, completely new kickoff for free :p
>
> I thou
On Tuesday 13 November 2012 11:35:23 Marco Martin wrote:
> On Tuesday 13 November 2012, Marco Martin wrote:
> > It would be something that looks way less cluttered than kickoff, but with
> > not many regressions.
> >
> > this is just an idea if anybody is willing to dive into it, personally is
> >
On Tuesday 13 November 2012, Marco Martin wrote:
> It would be something that looks way less cluttered than kickoff, but with
> not many regressions.
>
> this is just an idea if anybody is willing to dive into it, personally is
> something on the "to try but very low priority" list. Right now i'm
On Monday, November 12, 2012 17:02:41 Aurélien Gâteau wrote:
> Le dimanche 11 novembre 2012 12:02:58 Aaron J. Seigo a écrit :
> > On Friday, November 9, 2012 23:09:35 Aurélien Gâteau wrote:
> > > As you can see, it is a fullscreen launcher with content organized in
> > > tabs.
> >
> > i find it to
On Monday 12 November 2012, Nuno Pinheiro wrote:
> On the desktop I positively hate the concept specially in large enough
> screens were moving from A to B might require-me to lift my mouse in order
> to finish the movement...
>
> I believe much more in non intrusive launchers such as krunner, me
On Monday 12 November 2012, Aurélien Gâteau wrote:
>
> We are happy to receive any feedback on both appearance and ergonomics. I
> know some parts of Homerun definitely need more work, the configure editor
> for example is quite clunky: the goal was to have something
> feature-complete, but it is
A Sexta, 9 de Novembro de 2012 23:09:35 Aurélien Gâteau escreveu:
> Hi all,
>
> Some of you have already heard about Homerun, but it has never been properly
> announced on this mailing list. Time to fix this.
>
> # What is Homerun?
>
> Homerun is an alternative launcher for KDE Plasma, built usi
Le dimanche 11 novembre 2012 12:02:58 Aaron J. Seigo a écrit :
> On Friday, November 9, 2012 23:09:35 Aurélien Gâteau wrote:
> > As you can see, it is a fullscreen launcher with content organized in
> > tabs.
>
> i find it to be a very interesting approach, and one that imho has
> potential.
>
>
On Friday, November 9, 2012 23:09:35 Aurélien Gâteau wrote:
> As you can see, it is a fullscreen launcher with content organized in tabs.
i find it to be a very interesting approach, and one that imho has potential.
there are a number of visual issues right now and a few usability ones. if you
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