Re: kde plasma workspace structure

2012-06-09 Thread Marco Martin
On Saturday 09 June 2012, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Saturday, June 9, 2012 13:11:21 Alex Fiestas wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > As notmart said in one of the threads where we discussed the vision, > > does the user want to execute an application or what he/s

Re: kde plasma workspace structure

2012-06-09 Thread Marco Martin
On Saturday 09 June 2012, Alex Fiestas wrote: > On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 12:11 AM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > On Friday, June 8, 2012 22:54:03 Alex Fiestas wrote: > > we have kde-baseapps, and i agree what you've said previously that > > wewould benefit from having a defined set of "core applications

Re: Re: kde plasma workspace structure

2012-06-09 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Saturday 09 June 2012 16:29:10 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Saturday, June 9, 2012 14:13:49 Martin Gräßlin wrote: > > On Saturday 09 June 2012 13:18:04 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > > On Saturday, June 9, 2012 12:37:47 Martin Gräßlin wrote: > > > > There might be a misunderstanding. I do not say that

Re: kde plasma workspace structure

2012-06-09 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Saturday, June 9, 2012 14:05:15 Alex Fiestas wrote: > PowerDevil - Solid::Control::Power btw, thanks to this design, i expect next week we'll drop in an Android power management backend (into a branch of course .. :) why? we got a new revision of the vivaldi hardware last month that has gene

Re: kde plasma workspace structure

2012-06-09 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Saturday, June 9, 2012 14:13:49 Martin Gräßlin wrote: > On Saturday 09 June 2012 13:18:04 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > On Saturday, June 9, 2012 12:37:47 Martin Gräßlin wrote: > > > There might be a misunderstanding. I do not say that we have to require > > > OpenGL compositing, I'm saying that the

Re: Re: kde plasma workspace structure

2012-06-09 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Saturday 09 June 2012 13:18:04 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Saturday, June 9, 2012 12:37:47 Martin Gräßlin wrote: > > There might be a misunderstanding. I do not say that we have to require > > OpenGL compositing, I'm saying that the stack underneath us broke for the > > non composited case (eithe

Re: Re: kde plasma workspace structure

2012-06-09 Thread Alex Fiestas
On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Martin Gräßlin wrote: > Also from looking at the KWin source base I have to disagree about the > benefits of keeping code portable. It makes the code ugly, adds additional > ifdefs. Keeping the source compiled with different compiles is a good thing, > that's why I

Re: kde plasma workspace structure

2012-06-09 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Saturday, June 9, 2012 13:11:21 Alex Fiestas wrote: > On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > As notmart said in one of the threads where we discussed the vision, > does the user want to execute an application or what he/she wants is > to read the pdf? that does not make the a

Re: kde plasma workspace structure

2012-06-09 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Saturday, June 9, 2012 12:37:47 Martin Gräßlin wrote: > There might be a misunderstanding. I do not say that we have to require > OpenGL compositing, I'm saying that the stack underneath us broke for the > non composited case (either XRender or OpenGL). If you want I can search > for the bug rep

Re: kde plasma workspace structure

2012-06-09 Thread Alex Fiestas
On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: >> interesting, I would consider gwenview part of the workspace as I think an >> image viewer is nowadays one of the most essential applications a user >> needs. > > 'how essential is the application' is not the measuring stick we've been > us

Re: Re: kde plasma workspace structure

2012-06-09 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Saturday 09 June 2012 11:13:16 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Saturday, June 9, 2012 10:28:05 Martin Gräßlin wrote: > > On Saturday 09 June 2012 04:45:51 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > > * losing portability to non-Linux (and even specific Linux OSes) > > > > something I would like to discuss in the ligh

Re: kde plasma workspace structure

2012-06-09 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Saturday, June 9, 2012 10:28:05 Martin Gräßlin wrote: > On Saturday 09 June 2012 04:45:51 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > * losing portability to non-Linux (and even specific Linux OSes) > > something I would like to discuss in the light of workspace. > > I think we all agree that we do neither target

Re: Re: kde plasma workspace structure

2012-06-09 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Saturday 09 June 2012 04:45:51 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > * losing portability to non-Linux (and even specific Linux OSes) something I would like to discuss in the light of workspace. I think we all agree that we do neither target MS Windows nor OS X. (I know you can run plasma-desktop on Windows

Re: kde plasma workspace structure

2012-06-08 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Saturday, June 9, 2012 02:22:43 Alex Fiestas wrote: > On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 12:11 AM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > On Friday, June 8, 2012 22:54:03 Alex Fiestas wrote: > > we have kde-baseapps, and i agree what you've said previously that wewould > > benefit from having a defined set of "core app

Re: kde plasma workspace structure

2012-06-08 Thread Alex Fiestas
On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 12:11 AM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Friday, June 8, 2012 22:54:03 Alex Fiestas wrote: > we have kde-baseapps, and i agree what you've said previously that wewould > benefit from having a defined set of "core applications" Lately I have been doing a lot of thinking with the

Re: kde plasma workspace structure

2012-06-08 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Friday, June 8, 2012 22:54:03 Alex Fiestas wrote: > Where will dolphin be? An application with Blue dot? i think so, yes. to beh noest, i really struggled with where file management belonged in the past. what it came down to was the it runs just fine outside of KDE's workspaces (a lot of peo

Re: kde plasma workspace structure

2012-06-08 Thread Marco Martin
On Friday 08 June 2012, Alex Fiestas wrote: > On Friday, June 08, 2012 10:01:35 PM Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > hi... > > > > here is a rough block diagram of the overall kde software stack: > > http://plasma.kde.org/media/kde_block_diagram.png > > Apart from useful and complete beautiful :p >

Re: kde plasma workspace structure

2012-06-08 Thread Alex Fiestas
On Friday, June 08, 2012 10:01:35 PM Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > hi... > > here is a rough block diagram of the overall kde software stack: > > http://plasma.kde.org/media/kde_block_diagram.png Apart from useful and complete beautiful :p Where will dolphin be? An application with Blue dot? Th

kde plasma workspace structure

2012-06-08 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
hi... here is a rough block diagram of the overall kde software stack: http://plasma.kde.org/media/kde_block_diagram.png some notes: * the applications have little dots in them: Blue -> desktop Pink -> Touch (Harmattan, Active, ...) Universal -> one UI, works eve