On Thursday, September 26, 2013 12:19:11 Matthias Klumpp wrote:
> Incompatibilities are okay, IMHO, as long as they really
> provide improvements and are not just bikeshed about e.g. function
> naming or wheel-reinventing of working specs.
even then, it’s often best to just use what is already the
On Thursday, September 26, 2013 12:19:11 Matthias Klumpp wrote:
> Maybe the persistent-notifications-after-reboot thing will be a
> (solvable) issue.
It's surely solvable, but is this really a problem? I don't think so, since
usually, the user shuts down the system which means, she saw the notifi
2013/9/26 Aaron J. Seigo :
> On Wednesday, September 25, 2013 23:06:42 Matthias Klumpp wrote:
>> I also fear that, but this was a statement by single developers, which
>> I don't think is true.
>
> it is the developer responsible for the component in question, and apparently
> he’s already doing wo
On Wednesday, September 25, 2013 23:06:42 Matthias Klumpp wrote:
> I also fear that, but this was a statement by single developers, which
> I don't think is true.
it is the developer responsible for the component in question, and apparently
he’s already doing work to create new incompatibilities
On Thursday, 2013-09-26, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> On Thursday 26 September 2013 11:35:02 Marco Martin wrote:
> > On Thursday 26 September 2013 01:27:54 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > > The only remaining problem then becomes Qt5. QSystemTrayIcon does not
> > > support the DBus protocol .. it should, real
On Thursday 26 September 2013 11:35:02 Marco Martin wrote:
> On Thursday 26 September 2013 01:27:54 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > The only remaining problem then becomes Qt5. QSystemTrayIcon does not
> > support the DBus protocol .. it should, really, since the two largest
> > Linux
> > desktop envs bu
On Thursday 26 September 2013 01:27:54 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
>
> The only remaining problem then becomes Qt5. QSystemTrayIcon does not
> support the DBus protocol .. it should, really, since the two largest Linux
> desktop envs built on Qt use it ;)
back in the days i remember a big blocker was t
2013/9/25 Martin Gräßlin :
> On Thursday 26 September 2013 01:27:54 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
>> On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 17:06:14 Sebastian Kügler wrote:
>> > When I asked Martin if he knew a way to do the xembed, he replied (being
>> > Martin ;)) asking if we can just kill it and quoted starwar
On Thursday 26 September 2013 01:27:54 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 17:06:14 Sebastian Kügler wrote:
> > When I asked Martin if he knew a way to do the xembed, he replied (being
> > Martin ;)) asking if we can just kill it and quoted starwars. I wonder:
> > Can
> > we kill
On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 17:06:14 Sebastian Kügler wrote:
> When I asked Martin if he knew a way to do the xembed, he replied (being
> Martin ;)) asking if we can just kill it and quoted starwars. I wonder: Can
> we kill it yet?
I just had a discussion on G+ with a couple of our friends with
On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 10:46:24 Matthias Klumpp wrote:
> Sorry, I confused the naming here... And I am aware offen the previous
> discussion (followed it, but was not involved) I just think that it might
> make sense to start a New attempt on this, now that everyone is working
> towards way
On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 10:46:24 Matthias Klumpp wrote:
> Sorry, I confused the naming here... And I am aware offen the previous
> discussion (followed it, but was not involved) I just think that it might
> make sense to start a New attempt on this, now that everyone is working
> towards way
On Tuesday 24 September 2013 20:48:23 Kevin Krammer wrote:
> On Tuesday, 2013-09-24, Sebastian Kügler wrote:
> > * Qt5 doesn't seem to have the API we need to do our xembed tricks
> > anymore,
> >
> > especially QX11EmbedContainer is gone. If we even get it to work under
> >
> > X11, it seems e
On Tuesday, 2013-09-24, Sebastian Kügler wrote:
> * Qt5 doesn't seem to have the API we need to do our xembed tricks anymore,
> especially QX11EmbedContainer is gone. If we even get it to work under
> X11, it seems entirely futile to expect this to be feasible in a Wayland
> world.
I think QWin
On Tuesday 24 September 2013, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> as i write this, the idea of a hybrid package becomes more and more
> desirable sounding. with a different main script, it should be possible to
> launch the same UI but without it being an actual plasmoid.
>
> this would also change how plasmo
Sorry, I confused the naming here... And I am aware offen the previous
discussion (followed it, but was not involved) I just think that it might
make sense to start a New attempt on this, now that everyone is working
towards wayland. Talking to Xfce is a good idea too, imho. I can ask around
on thi
On Tuesday 24 September 2013, Marco Martin wrote:
> > Xfce), so it makes much sense to discuss post-x systray now and create a
> > Freedesktop document for it - maybe just use DBusmenu...
>
> dbusmenu has nothing to do with systemtrays.
or more precisely, it's ortogonal, we use it to do the icon
On Tuesday 24 September 2013, Matthias Klumpp wrote:
> GNOME embeds the tray Icons in it's norification area, supporting xembed
> right now. In future, they want a different notification system, which is
> used exclusively (design docs are available, i will look them up at home)
> However, I assume
GNOME embeds the tray Icons in it's norification area, supporting xembed
right now. In future, they want a different notification system, which is
used exclusively (design docs are available, i will look them up at home)
However, I assume GTK+ will have a systray implementation (at least for
Xfce),
On Tuesday 24 September 2013, Martin Graesslin wrote:
> > if Gtk+ supported status notifiers natively, then i’d say “yes”. it
> > doesn’t, so anyone who uses a Gtk+ application with a system tray icon
> > will suddenly not be able to access it. i’m pretty sure that’s going to
> > cause problems.
On Tuesday 24 September 2013 18:04:55 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > * Qt5 doesn't seem to have the API we need to do our xembed tricks
> > anymore,
> >
> > especially QX11EmbedContainer is gone.
>
> it’s missing more than gone; i’ve heard several times that someone or
> another was working on it.
w
On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 17:06:14 Sebastian Kügler wrote:
> Hey,
>
> Now that I have your attention ;), I'd like to discuss the future of the
> system tray. I'm porting it right now to Qt5/KF5, and running into some
> problems.
>
> Quick background: The systemtray widget in Plasma supports
Hey,
Now that I have your attention ;), I'd like to discuss the future of the
system tray. I'm porting it right now to Qt5/KF5, and running into some
problems.
Quick background: The systemtray widget in Plasma supports three kinds of
"Items", traditional, xembed-based systray icons, dbus statu
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