Re: multi-screen management

2010-09-12 Thread Chani
> > ...btw, anyone feel like updating the wiki page (mentioned at the start of > this thread) with the conclusions we came to? :) done. http://community.kde.org/Plasma/Multiscreen ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org

Re: multi-screen management

2010-09-07 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Tuesday, September 7, 2010, Chani wrote: > On September 7, 2010 10:01:57 Sebastian Kügler wrote: > > On Tuesday, August 31, 2010 21:37:15 Chani wrote: > > > On August 31, 2010 04:41:11 Sebastian Kügler wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, August 18, 2010 22:27:12 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > > > > as for t

Re: multi-screen management

2010-09-07 Thread Chani
On September 7, 2010 10:01:57 Sebastian Kügler wrote: > On Tuesday, August 31, 2010 21:37:15 Chani wrote: > > On August 31, 2010 04:41:11 Sebastian Kügler wrote: > > > On Wednesday, August 18, 2010 22:27:12 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > > > as for thumbnails .. it's likely posible to do so for currentl

Re: multi-screen management

2010-09-07 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Tuesday, August 31, 2010 21:37:15 Chani wrote: > On August 31, 2010 04:41:11 Sebastian Kügler wrote: > > On Wednesday, August 18, 2010 22:27:12 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > > as for thumbnails .. it's likely posible to do so for currently running > > > containments, but much harder to do for ones t

Re: multi-screen management

2010-08-31 Thread Chani
On August 31, 2010 04:41:11 Sebastian Kügler wrote: > On Wednesday, August 18, 2010 22:27:12 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > as for thumbnails .. it's likely posible to do so for currently running > > containments, but much harder to do for ones that aren't running. > > The containment will be running a

Re: multi-screen management

2010-08-31 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Wednesday, August 18, 2010 22:27:12 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > as for thumbnails .. it's likely posible to do so for currently running > containments, but much harder to do for ones that aren't running. The containment will be running at some point, so we can just screenshoot it then. I think a

Re: multi-screen management

2010-08-30 Thread todd rme
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Diego Moya wrote: > On 18 August 2010 08:42, Chani wrote: >> >> Another tricky issue: how to represent the containments? If someone can >> get >> thumbnails of containments working properly I will give them lots of beer >> and >> hugs. :) Im the meantime... well, a

Re: multi-screen management

2010-08-30 Thread Diego Moya
On 18 August 2010 08:42, Chani wrote: > > Another tricky issue: how to represent the containments? If someone can get > thumbnails of containments working properly I will give them lots of beer > and > hugs. :) Im the meantime... well, a grid of identical icons isn't very > useful. > there probabl

Re: multi-screen management

2010-08-30 Thread Diego Moya
On 18 August 2010 08:42, Chani wrote: > so... we had planned to have a little tool for managing the containments of > multiple screens, in 4.5 - but there wasn't time. multiscreen has > improvements, but also regressions - well, *a* regression - you can't > access > the containment of a screen th

Re: multi-screen management

2010-08-30 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Thursday, August 19, 2010 10:39:05 Marco Martin wrote: > > > > * It'd be nice to investigate whether any delay would be helpful - is > > > > it likely for several screen changes to happen within a few seconds? > > > > either from drivers being fidgety or from a loose cable or something? > > > >

Re: multi-screen management

2010-08-19 Thread Marco Martin
On Wednesday 18 August 2010, Jeremy Whiting wrote: > > > > it does make sense to leave something running if one can switch to it, > > though. > > if the switcher UI allows the user to do that, then it's probably fine. > > Umm, is there a glossary somewhere of plasma terms? I've no clue what PDV,

Re: multi-screen management

2010-08-19 Thread Marco Martin
On Wednesday 18 August 2010, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > ok .. so given that these are use cases ... how about this as an idea: > > in the Activity Manager panel, if there is more than one containment in the > current activity, it is shown expanded with a snapshot of each containment. > so, in a two

Re: multi-screen management

2010-08-19 Thread Marco Martin
On Wednesday 18 August 2010, Chani wrote: > On August 18, 2010 03:15:13 Marco Martin wrote: > > On Wednesday 18 August 2010, Chani wrote: > > > so... we had planned to have a little tool for managing the > > > containments of multiple screens, in 4.5 - but there wasn't time. > > > multiscreen has i

Re: multi-screen management

2010-08-18 Thread Chani
> > > > right; but that doesn't really have anything to do with the activity, per > > se. > > it does, that's the problem. :) > ...and in any case, all I wanted to do was give a warning that there's bad code in there that likes to throw up nasty surprises, so this whole conversation is a bit

Re: multi-screen management

2010-08-18 Thread Chani
On August 18, 2010 20:05:00 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Wednesday, August 18, 2010, Chani wrote: > > On August 18, 2010 13:24:43 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > > On Wednesday, August 18, 2010, Chani wrote: > > > > On August 18, 2010 10:05:22 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > > > > On Tuesday, August 17, 2010, Ch

Re: multi-screen management

2010-08-18 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Wednesday, August 18, 2010, Alex Fiestas wrote: > On 08/18/2010 07:05 PM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > >> * Once this is implemented, I believe panels should behave the same way, > >> instead of migrating. It's more consistent that way. thoughts? > > > > i think it will annoy the users who previousl

Re: multi-screen management

2010-08-18 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Wednesday, August 18, 2010, Chani wrote: > On August 18, 2010 13:24:43 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > On Wednesday, August 18, 2010, Chani wrote: > > > On August 18, 2010 10:05:22 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, August 17, 2010, Chani wrote: > > in the Activity Manager panel, if there is m

Re: multi-screen management

2010-08-18 Thread Chani
On August 18, 2010 13:24:43 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Wednesday, August 18, 2010, Chani wrote: > > On August 18, 2010 10:05:22 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > > On Tuesday, August 17, 2010, Chani wrote: > > > > so... we had planned to have a little tool for managing the > > > > containments of multiple

Re: multi-screen management

2010-08-18 Thread Alex Fiestas
On 08/18/2010 07:05 PM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: >> * Once this is implemented, I believe panels should behave the same way, >> instead of migrating. It's more consistent that way. thoughts? > > i think it will annoy the users who previously sent in bug reports about the > panel not showing up on th

Re: multi-screen management

2010-08-18 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Wednesday, August 18, 2010, todd rme wrote: > But this just gets us back to the problem we had before, which is that > the desktop containment does not handle resizing very well. I was for certain values/definitions of "handle resizing". that said, this is a completely, totally and utterly di

Re: multi-screen management

2010-08-18 Thread todd rme
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Wednesday, August 18, 2010, Chani wrote: >> On August 18, 2010 10:05:22 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: >> 1) user unplugs their external monitor and takes their laptop home. at home >> they remember there was a note on the other monitor that they

Re: multi-screen management

2010-08-18 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Wednesday, August 18, 2010, Björn Ruberg wrote: > Thinking about it, I'm wondering if theses thoughts are not simply too > complicated. One idea: We have already something in KDE 4.5 in place called > "activities". They are just about what this is about: containments. > So, why not make it simpl

Re: multi-screen management

2010-08-18 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Wednesday, August 18, 2010, Chani wrote: > On August 18, 2010 10:05:22 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > On Tuesday, August 17, 2010, Chani wrote: > > > so... we had planned to have a little tool for managing the > > > containments of multiple screens, in 4.5 - but there wasn't time. > > > multiscreen h

Re: multi-screen management

2010-08-18 Thread Björn Ruberg
An Mittwoch, 18. August 2010 08:42:40 schrieb Chani: > so... we had planned to have a little tool for managing the containments of > multiple screens, in 4.5 - but there wasn't time. multiscreen has > improvements, but also regressions - well, *a* regression - you can't > access the containment of

Re: multi-screen management

2010-08-18 Thread Chani
On August 18, 2010 11:17:53 Jeremy Whiting wrote: > On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > On Tuesday, August 17, 2010, Chani wrote: > > > so... we had planned to have a little tool for managing the > > > containments > > > > of > > > > > multiple screens, in 4.5 - but there

Re: multi-screen management

2010-08-18 Thread Chani
On August 18, 2010 10:05:22 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Tuesday, August 17, 2010, Chani wrote: > > so... we had planned to have a little tool for managing the containments > > of multiple screens, in 4.5 - but there wasn't time. multiscreen has > > improvements, but also regressions - well, *a* regr

Re: multi-screen management

2010-08-18 Thread Jeremy Whiting
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Tuesday, August 17, 2010, Chani wrote: > > so... we had planned to have a little tool for managing the containments > of > > multiple screens, in 4.5 - but there wasn't time. multiscreen has > > improvements, but also regressions - well

Re: multi-screen management

2010-08-18 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Tuesday, August 17, 2010, Chani wrote: > so... we had planned to have a little tool for managing the containments of > multiple screens, in 4.5 - but there wasn't time. multiscreen has > improvements, but also regressions - well, *a* regression - you can't > access the containment of a screen th

Re: multi-screen management

2010-08-18 Thread Chani
On August 18, 2010 03:15:13 Marco Martin wrote: > On Wednesday 18 August 2010, Chani wrote: > > so... we had planned to have a little tool for managing the containments > > of multiple screens, in 4.5 - but there wasn't time. multiscreen has > > improvements, but also regressions - well, *a* regres

Re: multi-screen management

2010-08-18 Thread Marco Martin
On Wednesday 18 August 2010, Chani wrote: > so... we had planned to have a little tool for managing the containments of > multiple screens, in 4.5 - but there wasn't time. multiscreen has > improvements, but also regressions - well, *a* regression - you can't > access the containment of a screen th

multi-screen management

2010-08-17 Thread Chani
so... we had planned to have a little tool for managing the containments of multiple screens, in 4.5 - but there wasn't time. multiscreen has improvements, but also regressions - well, *a* regression - you can't access the containment of a screen that's not plugged in. the same applies to the p