Re: AW: some feedback from a mobile application development team

2016-01-07 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Wednesday, January 06, 2016 08:11:47 PM Kai Uwe Broulik wrote: > > ‎qinputmethod does have keyboard geometry even in 5.5, on linux it works > > fine... so that doesn't work on android? > > ‎Yes, Google in their infinite wisdom believe that an app should never ever > need to probe for the keyb

Re: some feedback from a mobile application development team

2016-01-07 Thread Sebastian Kügler
On Wednesday, January 06, 2016 10:48:10 AM Dirk Hohndel wrote: > On Wed, Jan 06, 2016 at 04:39:33PM +0100, Marco Martin wrote: > > On Wednesday 06 January 2016, Dirk Hohndel wrote: > > > Building for Android is painful (as Sebastian will confirm). Adding > > > something where an application after b

Re: some feedback from a mobile application development team

2016-01-06 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Dienstag, 5. Januar 2016 18:15:38 CET Dirk Hohndel wrote: > Wow. I did not realize that. Just tried it and indeed, you are right. > No conflict, no issue. Cool. Great! :-) > I learned something new today :-) Yeah, it seems Android could use some tutorials, too ;) > > > What do you think abo

Re: some feedback from a mobile application development team

2016-01-06 Thread Dirk Hohndel
On Wed, Jan 06, 2016 at 08:03:16PM +0100, Marco Martin wrote: > On Wednesday 06 January 2016, Marco Martin wrote: > > On Wednesday 06 January 2016, Kai Uwe Broulik wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > The issue with the virtual keyboard shifting the contents on Android is > > > an issue I also face with p

AW: some feedback from a mobile application development team

2016-01-06 Thread Kai Uwe Broulik
> ‎qinputmethod does have keyboard geometry even in 5.5, on linux it works  fine... so that doesn't work on android? ‎Yes, Google in their infinite wisdom believe that an app should never ever need to probe for the keyboard geometry, only in 5.6 (or even 5.7, can't find the codereview right now)

Re: some feedback from a mobile application development team

2016-01-06 Thread Marco Martin
On Wednesday 06 January 2016, Marco Martin wrote: > On Wednesday 06 January 2016, Kai Uwe Broulik wrote: > > Hi, > > > > The issue with the virtual keyboard shifting the contents on Android is > > an issue I also face with pure Qt apps and as of now there is no way to > > prevent or detect this be

Re: some feedback from a mobile application development team

2016-01-06 Thread Marco Martin
On Wednesday 06 January 2016, Kai Uwe Broulik wrote: > Hi, > > The issue with the virtual keyboard shifting the contents on Android is an > issue I also face with pure Qt apps and as of now there is no way to > prevent or detect this behavior, at least not with Qt APIs. > > I think Qt 5.6 will pr

Re: some feedback from a mobile application development team

2016-01-06 Thread Kai Uwe Broulik
Have a look at Qt.inputMethod.visible and Qt.inputMethod.keyboardRectangle - with that you should be able to transform the FAB so it stays visible on screen. I'm not sure if you can influence the behavior that Android shifts the view upwards if you tab an input field that would otherwise be cove

Re: some feedback from a mobile application development team

2016-01-06 Thread Dirk Hohndel
> On Jan 6, 2016, at 10:55, Kai Uwe Broulik wrote: > > Hi, > > The issue with the virtual keyboard shifting the contents on Android is an > issue I also face with pure Qt apps and as of now there is no way to prevent > or detect this behavior, at least not with Qt APIs. > > I think Qt 5.6 w

Re: some feedback from a mobile application development team

2016-01-06 Thread Kai Uwe Broulik
with which we could improve the experience in this regard. Cheers,  Kai Uwe   Originalnachricht   Von: Dirk Hohndel Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Januar 2016 19:52 An: plasma-devel@kde.org Antwort an: plasma-devel@kde.org Betreff: Re: some feedback from a mobile application development team On Wed, Jan 06

Re: some feedback from a mobile application development team

2016-01-06 Thread Dirk Hohndel
On Wed, Jan 06, 2016 at 05:41:27PM +0100, Marco Martin wrote: > On Wednesday 06 January 2016, Dirk Hohndel wrote: > > > > Well, before we removed the FAB I was quite easily able to get into > > situations where the FAB would disappear and would not show back up, > > regardless what I tried. The to

Re: some feedback from a mobile application development team

2016-01-06 Thread Dirk Hohndel
On Wed, Jan 06, 2016 at 04:39:33PM +0100, Marco Martin wrote: > On Wednesday 06 January 2016, Dirk Hohndel wrote: > > Building for Android is painful (as Sebastian will confirm). Adding > > something where an application after being started downloads other > > components... not going to happen. At

Re: some feedback from a mobile application development team

2016-01-06 Thread Marco Martin
On Wednesday 06 January 2016, Dirk Hohndel wrote: > > Well, before we removed the FAB I was quite easily able to get into > situations where the FAB would disappear and would not show back up, > regardless what I tried. The top bar doesn't disappear, so those buttons > are always there. Yet one mo

Re: some feedback from a mobile application development team

2016-01-06 Thread Marco Martin
On Wednesday 06 January 2016, Dirk Hohndel wrote: > This depends where you are planning to focus on when it comes to > relevance. If you believe that plasma-mobile will be the next Android and > that the next billion devices will run plasma-mobile, then I see your > point. If you want Qt/QML/plasma

Re: some feedback from a mobile application development team

2016-01-06 Thread Marco Martin
On Wednesday 06 January 2016, Dirk Hohndel wrote: > Building for Android is painful (as Sebastian will confirm). Adding > something where an application after being started downloads other > components... not going to happen. At least not for Subsurface. I want to > be able to offer the user an .ap

Re: some feedback from a mobile application development team

2016-01-06 Thread Dirk Hohndel
On Wed, Jan 06, 2016 at 11:14:18AM +0100, Marco Martin wrote: > On Wednesday 06 January 2016, Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > > Therefore what I'd like to see is that when our components are used within > > Android, they draw the buttons in the top bar (where they are - and that is > > a research-supporte

Re: some feedback from a mobile application development team

2016-01-06 Thread Dirk Hohndel
On Wed, Jan 06, 2016 at 11:29:16AM +0100, Marco Martin wrote: > > > > Therefore what I'd like to see is that when our components are used > > > within Android, they draw the buttons in the top bar (where they are - > > > and that is a research-supported fact - hard to reach, but consistent > > > w

Re: some feedback from a mobile application development team

2016-01-06 Thread Dirk Hohndel
On Wed, Jan 06, 2016 at 11:58:30AM +0100, Marco Martin wrote: > > I will talk to Sebastian about synching our code base with upstream again > > and hope that I can help contribute to the upstream project. > > One thing I would love to see, is the components downloaded and built at > setup > time

Re: some feedback from a mobile application development team

2016-01-06 Thread Marco Martin
On Wednesday 06 January 2016, Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > Another thing I want to see changed in our components, though is the > actual dragging interaction with the FAB. Currently one has to drag it > pretty far to open a drawer, which defeats the whole "Not having to > stretch your thumb to a corne

Re: some feedback from a mobile application development team

2016-01-06 Thread Marco Martin
On Tuesday 05 January 2016, Dirk Hohndel wrote: > Hi there, > > I just subscribed so please bear with me if I'm going over things that > have been discussed. Welcome aboard Dirk! > The Subsurface team would love to see an option to cleanly disable the > action button in the MobileComponents. >

Re: some feedback from a mobile application development team

2016-01-06 Thread Marco Martin
On Wednesday 06 January 2016, Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > > Support a "first start" mode for Plasma Mobile Components based apps that > > demonstrates to the user how things get used. So it shows a see through > > finger that taps and holds (the pulsing circles around the touch area) > > the FAB and m

Re: some feedback from a mobile application development team

2016-01-06 Thread Marco Martin
On Wednesday 06 January 2016, Dirk Hohndel wrote: > Side note: I am not a huge friend of the side swipes being used for the > drawers. I find swipes a great way to do navigation. There are a bunch of > email applications where swiping left and right you can move to the > previous / next item in you

Re: some feedback from a mobile application development team

2016-01-06 Thread Marco Martin
On Wednesday 06 January 2016, Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > Therefore what I'd like to see is that when our components are used within > Android, they draw the buttons in the top bar (where they are - and that is > a research-supported fact - hard to reach, but consistent with other > Android applicatio

Re: some feedback from a mobile application development team

2016-01-05 Thread Dirk Hohndel
Hi Thomas On Wed, Jan 06, 2016 at 02:56:09AM +0100, Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: You clearly have interesting working hours... just like Sebastian > There is a difference between edge swipe and regular horizontal swipes. All > stock Android apps that have a lef

Re: some feedback from a mobile application development team

2016-01-05 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Dienstag, 5. Januar 2016 16:58:10 CET Dirk Hohndel wrote: > Hi Thomas, > > > On Jan 5, 2016, at 3:22 PM, Thomas Pfeiffer > > wrote: as the person in charge of the KDE Mobile HIG (and therefore also > > responsible for the usability of the Plasma Components), I'm very happy > > to get feedback

Re: some feedback from a mobile application development team

2016-01-05 Thread Dirk Hohndel
Hi Thomas, > On Jan 5, 2016, at 3:22 PM, Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > as the person in charge of the KDE Mobile HIG (and therefore also responsible > for the usability of the Plasma Components), I'm very happy to get feedback > from users of an actual working application using our components! Awes

Re: some feedback from a mobile application development team

2016-01-05 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Dienstag, 5. Januar 2016 08:16:38 CET Dirk Hohndel wrote: > Hi there, Hi Dirk, as the person in charge of the KDE Mobile HIG (and therefore also responsible for the usability of the Plasma Components), I'm very happy to get feedback from users of an actual working application using our compon

some feedback from a mobile application development team

2016-01-05 Thread Dirk Hohndel
Hi there, I just subscribed so please bear with me if I'm going over things that have been discussed. Some background for context: Subsurface is a reasonably popular open source dive log program aimed primarily at scuba divers. It's somewhat known in open source circles as it was started by Linu