Re: [platform-dev] Fwd: [Bug 305081] [api] IInstallableUnit#getFilter is marked noReference

2022-02-10 Thread Szymon Ptaszkiewicz
+1 for disabling that. czw., 10 lut 2022 o 07:23 Ed Merks napisał(a): > Can we please turn off this "Genie" that does this to open bugs? I've > asked about this before and I really don't like it. This time I want to > really make it stop. I think such a behavior creates a really bad > impress

Re: [platform-dev] Fwd: [Bug 305081] [api] IInstallableUnit#getFilter is marked noReference

2022-02-10 Thread Andrey Loskutov
> I would bring that for voting at the PMC. Thanks Alex. > I'm a bit disappointed that we don't see real effort in improving the > situation with bugs and gerrits though. Sure, ho one is happy with that, but that's the problem of resources we have since "big players" moved to other businesses

Re: [platform-dev] Fwd: [Bug 305081] [api] IInstallableUnit#getFilter is marked noReference

2022-02-10 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 12:55 PM Alexander Fedorov < alexander.fedo...@arsysop.ru> wrote: > +1 to stop auto close, because it negates a lot of human effort invested > in each bugzilla record. It is strange to expect any new contributors while > we just through their work to the trash bin. > I wou

Re: [platform-dev] Bug autoclose / triage / fixing

2022-02-10 Thread Christoph Läubrich
> But what impression do we want to give the users? You either fix your bus your self or they get never fixed unless another one is bored about it and fix it :-) Actually if we like to get better user- experience we should focus on bugs not new features... but bugs get only attention if they

Re: [platform-dev] Fwd: [Bug 305081] [api] IInstallableUnit#getFilter is marked noReference

2022-02-10 Thread Alexander Fedorov
+1 to stop auto close, because it negates a lot of human effort invested in each bugzilla record. It is strange to expect any new contributors while we just through their work to the trash bin. I wonder what Committer Representative role stands for if the message could be claimed as "just not

Re: [platform-dev] Fwd: [Bug 305081] [api] IInstallableUnit#getFilter is marked noReference

2022-02-10 Thread Mickael Istria
On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 11:42 AM Ed Merks wrote: > And while you might not keep lists, auto closing issues reminds not just > you that attention is needed but it reminds the users that you don't keep a > list. And it might will tell the users that you don't really care about > backlogs of issues

Re: [platform-dev] Fwd: [Bug 305081] [api] IInstallableUnit#getFilter is marked noReference

2022-02-10 Thread jkubitz-eclipse
I dislike stupid robots judging human contributions which come from heart. I also dislike triage. As long as a bug is not planned with target Milestone and (voluntary) assignee it won’t be done anyways. But still it is a valid report that later might gain attention.

Re: [platform-dev] Fwd: [Bug 305081] [api] IInstallableUnit#getFilter is marked noReference

2022-02-10 Thread Ed Merks
I do keep lists: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&classification=Modeling&component=releng&component=doc&component=website&component=Core&component=Doc&component=Edit&component=Mapping&component=Tools&componen

Re: [platform-dev] Fwd: [Bug 305081] [api] IInstallableUnit#getFilter is marked noReference

2022-02-10 Thread Ed Merks
Please consider the opinions of your committers and contributors as at least relatively important.   We're explaining to you what is important to us and why we feel that way.  We don't really so much appreciate our opinions being dismissed as not important to you.   We have higher expectations

Re: [platform-dev] Fwd: [Bug 305081] [api] IInstallableUnit#getFilter is marked noReference

2022-02-10 Thread Mickael Istria
FWIW, I personally like the "reminder" about old bugs I once cared about and then have forgotten about, and that often allows me to take a decision of whether I'm fine seeing them closed (sometimes marking them as resolved or not important any more), or whether I need to reopen them with more conte

Re: [platform-dev] Fwd: [Bug 305081] [api] IInstallableUnit#getFilter is marked noReference

2022-02-10 Thread Andrey Loskutov
Alex,   it might be not important for *you*, but it is important for others.   If closing bugs is pointless, so why do we do that, especially if both committers and users are upset?   Kind regards, Andrey Loskutov Спасение утопающих - дело рук самих утопающих https://www.eclipse.org/user/alo

Re: [platform-dev] Fwd: [Bug 305081] [api] IInstallableUnit#getFilter is marked noReference

2022-02-10 Thread S A
> You nailed it! It's pointless discussion whether bugs are autoclosed or not aka stay open without anyone looking into it or being closed without anyone looking into it. > What's important is who will triage and fix bugs, look into gerrits and etc.? I'm very interested in the later discussion and

Re: [platform-dev] Fwd: [Bug 305081] [api] IInstallableUnit#getFilter is marked noReference

2022-02-10 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 11:43 AM Rolf Theunissen wrote: > I fully agree. In fact, I consider any bug that is closed and marked as > 'stalebug' as open. > > Also, back in the day there seemed to be a different triage process, and > correct me if I am wrong, but it seems that bugs that are marked a

Re: [platform-dev] Fwd: [Bug 305081] [api] IInstallableUnit#getFilter is marked noReference

2022-02-10 Thread Rolf Theunissen
I fully agree. In fact, I consider any bug that is closed and marked as 'stalebug' as open. Also, back in the day there seemed to be a different triage process, and correct me if I am wrong, but it seems that bugs that are marked as being triaged are not auto-closed. At least some very old bugs do

Re: [platform-dev] Eclipse Project is Frozen?

2022-02-10 Thread Andrey Loskutov
Thanks Alex!   Kind regards, Andrey Loskutov Спасение утопающих - дело рук самих утопающих https://www.eclipse.org/user/aloskutov     Gesendet: Mittwoch, 09. Februar 2022 um 13:52 Uhr Von: "Aleksandar Kurtakov" An: "Eclipse platform general developers list." Betreff: Re: [platform-dev] Eclip