Re: Packaging .py files

2008-07-16 Thread Aria Stewart
On Jul 16, 2008, at 6:14 PM, Mariusz Mazur wrote: > >>> All other scripts should be run with >>> what their authors expected, and that's bash (the Have It Just Work >>> rule). The >> >> Bullshit. The scripts that expect bash have "#!/bin/bash" in >> header, not >> "#!/bin/sh". > > That's true on

Re: Packaging .py files

2008-07-16 Thread Mariusz Mazur
Dnia czwartek, 17 lipca 2008, Bartosz Taudul napisał: > Yes, condoning bad code practices is the way to go. Go install your > ubuntu. It's "bad" in theory. In practice, for the past mny years nobody gives a shit about theory in case of /bin/sh. So that's top score for theory and a FAIL on th

Re: Packaging .py files

2008-07-16 Thread Bartosz Taudul
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 12:30:40AM +0200, Mariusz Mazur wrote: > It's not a reliable system when any application can fail because it either > expects something that all of the other distros, except us, have (sh -> bash) Yes, condoning bad code practices is the way to go. Go install your ubuntu.

Re: Packaging .py files

2008-07-16 Thread Mariusz Mazur
Dnia czwartek, 17 lipca 2008, Tomasz Pala napisał: > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 23:07:38 +0200, Mariusz Mazur wrote: > > Over the years I've grown quite tired of a lot of cases where PLD tries > > to be > > I'm tired too but it is a must have for reliable system. It's not a reliable system when any a

Re: Packaging .py files

2008-07-16 Thread Tomasz Pala
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 23:07:38 +0200, Mariusz Mazur wrote: > Over the years I've grown quite tired of a lot of cases where PLD tries to be I'm tired too but it is a must have for reliable system. > smarter then upstream and/or other distros and does something completely > insignificant diffe

Re: vim-rt size (was Re: Packaging .py files)

2008-07-16 Thread Tomasz Pala
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 23:56:08 +0300, Elan Ruusamäe wrote: >> Use excludedocs Luke. > > /usr/share/vim/vim71/doc is not marked as %doc. Isn't it? ~: du -sh /usr/share/vim/vim71/doc 280K/usr/share/vim/vim71/doc %doc %{_datadir}/vim/v*/doc/*.txt %lang(pl) %doc %{_datadir}/vim/v*/doc/*.plx

Re: Packaging .py files

2008-07-16 Thread Mariusz Mazur
+1 Over the years I've grown quite tired of a lot of cases where PLD tries to be smarter then upstream and/or other distros and does something completely insignificant differently which results in having to patch up perfectly working apps. On the one hand I've got a lot of stuff to make my life

Re: vim-rt size (was Re: Packaging .py files)

2008-07-16 Thread Elan Ruusamäe
On Wednesday 16 July 2008 23:07, Tomasz Pala wrote: > > as i have few systems where /usr is really small and can't be grown . (do > > not ask why), but i like vim, mostly due it's syntax hiliting feature. > > Use excludedocs Luke. /usr/share/vim/vim71/doc is not marked as %doc. it's not online hel

Re: Packaging .py files

2008-07-16 Thread Tomasz Pala
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 21:56:00 +0300, Elan Ruusamäe wrote: > can the packaging be automated like -debuginfo is right now? > > i'd vote for -pysource, -source names :) +1 -- Tomasz Pala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ pld-devel-en mailing list pld-devel-en@

Re: vim-rt size (was Re: Packaging .py files)

2008-07-16 Thread Tomasz Pala
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 22:00:33 +0300, Elan Ruusamäe wrote: > i'm also thinking perhaps create -doc subpackage. It's only 5MB... > as i have few systems where /usr is really small and can't be grown . (do not > ask why), but i like vim, mostly due it's syntax hiliting feature. Use excludedocs

vim-rt size (was Re: Packaging .py files)

2008-07-16 Thread Elan Ruusamäe
On Wednesday 16 July 2008 19:57, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: > On these systems 10MB is the same as 1k. can vim-rt files be compressed somehow? i know vim can read .gz files and write them, can it do same for help/ and syntax/ files i'm also thinking perhaps create -doc subpackage. as i have few sy

Re: Packaging .py files

2008-07-16 Thread Elan Ruusamäe
On Wednesday 16 July 2008 16:07, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: > Please no "save the 1k of disk space" arguments. can the packaging be automated like -debuginfo is right now? i'd vote for -pysource, -source names :) -- glen ___ pld-devel-en mailing list pld-

Re: Packaging .py files

2008-07-16 Thread Tomasz Wittner
On Wednesday 16 of July 2008, 15:07, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: > Hi, > > Following up on a Jabber discussion with arekm I'd like to start > packaging .py files along with their bytecode counterparts. Then put them in separate packages, named python-FOO-src or sth like that. [...] -- Tomasz Wittner _

Re: Packaging .py files

2008-07-16 Thread Patryk Zawadzki
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 6:49 PM, Jakub Bogusz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (moving to -en) > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 03:31:41PM +0200, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 3:17 PM, Mateusz Korniak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > On Wednesday 16 of July 2008, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: >> >

Re: Packaging .py files

2008-07-16 Thread Jakub Bogusz
(moving to -en) On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 03:31:41PM +0200, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 3:17 PM, Mateusz Korniak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wednesday 16 of July 2008, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: > >> I'd like to start > >> packaging .py files along with their bytecode counterp

Packaging .py files

2008-07-16 Thread Patryk Zawadzki
Hi, Following up on a Jabber discussion with arekm I'd like to start packaging .py files along with their bytecode counterparts. The reasoning: 1) It's much easier to find bugs in your own code (or the code you're packaging at the moment) when the libraries are available at hand (currently I'm fo

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Bugzilla >/dev/null, switching to launchpad.net

2008-07-16 Thread Mariusz Mazur
Dnia środa, 16 lipca 2008, Adam Gołębiowski napisał: > hmm, as to a) and b) -- was it really so time consuming? No, because once set up, without a good reason (like a fscked up filesystem) usually nobody touches those things (point being -- no maintenance effort equals no new features). > c) -

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Bugzilla >/dev/null, switching to launchpad.net

2008-07-16 Thread Patryk Zawadzki
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Adam Gołębiowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 12:43:25PM +0200, Mariusz Mazur wrote: >> Rationale: >> Launchpad was chosen because (a) we don't have to maintain it, (b) we don't >> have to host it (backups, whatever), (c) we don't have to dev

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Bugzilla >/dev/null, switching to launchpad.net

2008-07-16 Thread Adam Gołębiowski
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 12:43:25PM +0200, Mariusz Mazur wrote: > Rationale: > Launchpad was chosen because (a) we don't have to maintain it, (b) we don't > have to host it (backups, whatever), (c) we don't have to develop it and (d) > it has some nice feature for upstream integration. hmm, as to

[ANNOUNCEMENT] Bugzilla >/dev/null, switching to launchpad.net

2008-07-16 Thread Mariusz Mazur
>From now on bugs.pld-linux.org redirects to https://bugs.launchpad.net/pld-linux. Old bugzilla is available under, well, oldbugzilla.pld-linux.org with the only modification being that the 'add new bug' form redirects to the appropriate launchpad form, meaning it's not possible to add new bugs