Re: kernel + xorg + nvidia

2008-08-06 Thread Patryk Zawadzki
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 1:06 AM, Elan Ruusamäe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > what we want? integrity or what? if you want to use custom kernel.config, then > kernel.spec on LINUX_2_6 offers that. you can't control things that are > outside package management. and trying to do it half-way you break pa

Re: kernel + xorg + nvidia

2008-08-06 Thread Elan Ruusamäe
On Thursday 07 August 2008 00:35, Adam Gołębiowski wrote: > On Wed, Aug 06, 2008 at 11:24:37PM +0200, Bartosz Taudul wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 12:59:27PM +0300, Elan Ruusamäe wrote: > > > how many out there use custom kernel anyway (i mean by that kernel > > > installed without rpm package

Re: kernel + xorg + nvidia

2008-08-06 Thread Adam Gołębiowski
On Wed, Aug 06, 2008 at 11:24:37PM +0200, Bartosz Taudul wrote: > On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 12:59:27PM +0300, Elan Ruusamäe wrote: > > how many out there use custom kernel anyway (i mean by that kernel > > installed > > without rpm package)? > What kind of bullshit argument is it supposed to be?

Re: kernel + xorg + nvidia

2008-08-06 Thread Bartosz Taudul
On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 12:59:27PM +0300, Elan Ruusamäe wrote: > how many out there use custom kernel anyway (i mean by that kernel installed > without rpm package)? What kind of bullshit argument is it supposed to be? "How many out there be" developers who don't understand polish? Why am I even w

Re: kernel + xorg + nvidia

2008-08-05 Thread Elan Ruusamäe
On Tuesday 05 August 2008 10:45:16 Tomasz Pala wrote: > On Mon, Aug 04, 2008 at 17:04:18 +0300, Elan Ruusamäe wrote: > > how about we do the userspace pkg R: kernel package if %{with > > dist_kernel}? > > Then xorg-driver-video-nvidia on ftp would require dist kernel - this is > bogus. yes. exactly

Re: kernel + xorg + nvidia

2008-08-05 Thread Tomasz Pala
On Mon, Aug 04, 2008 at 17:04:18 +0300, Elan Ruusamäe wrote: > how about we do the userspace pkg R: kernel package if %{with dist_kernel}? Then xorg-driver-video-nvidia on ftp would require dist kernel - this is bogus. > so if you do not use dist kernel you can build your own package for > kern

Re: kernel + xorg + nvidia

2008-08-04 Thread Elan Ruusamäe
On Sunday 03 August 2008 17:31:06 Patryk Zawadzki wrote: > On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Elan Ruusamäe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Friday 25 July 2008 23:09, Jakub Bogusz wrote: > >> At least release should be dropped from kernel module R. > >> Anyway, I don't like hard kernel/userspace de

Re: kernel + xorg + nvidia

2008-08-03 Thread Patryk Zawadzki
On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Elan Ruusamäe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 25 July 2008 23:09, Jakub Bogusz wrote: >> At least release should be dropped from kernel module R. >> Anyway, I don't like hard kernel/userspace dependencies in any >> direction - maybe it should be Conflicts (<%

Re: kernel + xorg + nvidia

2008-07-26 Thread Elan Ruusamäe
On Friday 25 July 2008 23:09, Jakub Bogusz wrote: > > but still the current solution breaks multiple kernels > > (two kernel modules require two different versions of the same > > package). > > At least release should be dropped from kernel module R. > Anyway, I don't like hard kernel/userspace dep

Re: kernel + xorg + nvidia

2008-07-25 Thread Jakub Bogusz
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 09:57:12PM +0200, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: > On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 9:48 PM, Jakub Bogusz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Both build parts (kernel and userspace) are optional, so there is. > > > > And both parts could live in different roots. > > Last time I tried it didn't w

Re: kernel + xorg + nvidia

2008-07-25 Thread Patryk Zawadzki
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 9:48 PM, Jakub Bogusz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Both build parts (kernel and userspace) are optional, so there is. > > And both parts could live in different roots. Last time I tried it didn't work inside vservers/kvm. Maybe it's different now but still the current solut

Re: kernel + xorg + nvidia

2008-07-25 Thread Jakub Bogusz
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 09:43:08PM +0200, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: > On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 9:13 PM, Bartosz Taudul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 03:27:58PM +0200, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: > >> Therefore I propose we reverse the requirement: > >> > >> * have xorg-driver-video-

Re: kernel + xorg + nvidia

2008-07-25 Thread Patryk Zawadzki
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 9:13 PM, Bartosz Taudul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 03:27:58PM +0200, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: >> Therefore I propose we reverse the requirement: >> >> * have xorg-driver-video-nvidia require kernel-module(nvidia) = %{version} > RTF devel-hints. If yo

Re: kernel + xorg + nvidia

2008-07-25 Thread Bartosz Taudul
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 03:27:58PM +0200, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: > Therefore I propose we reverse the requirement: > > * have xorg-driver-video-nvidia require kernel-module(nvidia) = %{version} RTF devel-hints. wolf -- Bartek . Taudul : .:...

kernel + xorg + nvidia

2008-07-25 Thread Patryk Zawadzki
Currently (as of glen's commit) the kernel module requires a proper version of the userspace Xorg driver. The two problems I see: * the real requirement is the other way around - it's xorg that needs the kernel module loaded * it forces users to uninstall nvidia modules from older kernels in order