Re: [Product-Developers] How attached to POI issue trackers are we?

2012-02-21 Thread Jon Stahl
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Maurits van Rees m.van.r...@zestsoftware.nl wrote: Op 08-02-12 20:42, Jon Stahl schreef: Hi all- A hypothetical question for all of you add-on product developers out there... I am doing some high-level thinking (which I will be sharing soon) about the

Re: [Product-Developers] How attached to POI issue trackers are we?

2012-02-21 Thread Maurits van Rees
Op 21-02-12 23:30, Jon Stahl schreef: Absolutely no lack of love for Poi intended. :-) I gathered as much. :-) No offense meant and none taken. -- Maurits van Rees http://maurits.vanrees.org/ Web App Programmer at Zest Software: http://zestsoftware.nl Logical thinking shows conclusively

Re: [Product-Developers] How attached to POI issue trackers are we?

2012-02-16 Thread Maurits van Rees
Op 08-02-12 20:42, Jon Stahl schreef: Hi all- A hypothetical question for all of you add-on product developers out there... I am doing some high-level thinking (which I will be sharing soon) about the future architecture for add-on product data in plone.org, and one question that's occurred to

Re: [Product-Developers] How attached to POI issue trackers are we?

2012-02-10 Thread Jon Stahl
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 10:34 PM, Jean Jordaan jean.jord...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 1:07 PM, T. Kim Nguyen ngu...@uwosh.edu wrote: I may be treading on dangerous ground here, but could the Foundation pay something to give developers incentive or time to work on things like

Re: [Product-Developers] How attached to POI issue trackers are we?

2012-02-09 Thread Luca Fabbri
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 7:15 AM, Andreas Jung li...@zopyx.com wrote: Sorry guys but once again: you can not force a project to move to Github (sources and trackers) without explicit agreement of the package owner or current package maintainer - at least not for active packages where let's say

Re: [Product-Developers] How attached to POI issue trackers are we?

2012-02-09 Thread derek
On Feb 9, 2:15 am, Andreas Jung li...@zopyx.com wrote: Sorry guys but once again: you can not force a project to move to Github (sources and trackers) without explicit agreement of the package owner or current package maintainer - at least not for active packages where let's say the issue

Re: [Product-Developers] How attached to POI issue trackers are we?

2012-02-09 Thread Héctor Velarde
I'm not using POI/PSC at all right now :-) Héctor Velarde smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ Product-Developers mailing list product-develop...@lists.plone.org https://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/plone-product-developers

Re: [Product-Developers] How attached to POI issue trackers are we?

2012-02-09 Thread Jon Stahl
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 12:20 AM, Yuri y...@alfa.it wrote: Il 09/02/2012 06:33, Nathan Van Gheem ha scritto: Maybe we just always keep them read-only then. Most of them contains fixes that has not been published in the product, for example. When you say most of, are there specific products

Re: [Product-Developers] How attached to POI issue trackers are we?

2012-02-09 Thread Ross Patterson
T. Kim Nguyen ngu...@uwosh.edu writes: I'm sure there would be wide support for allowing existing Poi on plone.org to continue being used, and not allowing new Poi to be created on plone.org. If Poi eventually are to be shut off entirely on plone.org then it would be good to have a

Re: [Product-Developers] How attached to POI issue trackers are we?

2012-02-09 Thread Ross Patterson
T. Kim Nguyen ngu...@uwosh.edu writes: I'd like to hear your ideas on sunsetting Poi. Might as well get em out there! Perhaps it could be sunset-ed in phases: turn off adding new trackers to new add-ons, turn off creating new issues, and, at some very far future date have it be clear that we

Re: [Product-Developers] How attached to POI issue trackers are we?

2012-02-09 Thread Jean Jordaan
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Ross Patterson m...@rpatterson.net wrote: But seriously, I'm just addressing the, IMO, erroneous conflation of a community making smart decisions of where to put its energy with coercion. This energy is certainly precious. There's different goals involved

Re: [Product-Developers] How attached to POI issue trackers are we?

2012-02-09 Thread T. Kim Nguyen
I may be treading on dangerous ground here, but could the Foundation pay something to give developers incentive or time to work on things like maintaining plone.org and such? Kim On Feb 10, 2012, at 12:02 AM, Jean Jordaan wrote: On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Ross Patterson

Re: [Product-Developers] How attached to POI issue trackers are we?

2012-02-09 Thread Jean Jordaan
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 1:07 PM, T. Kim Nguyen ngu...@uwosh.edu wrote: I may be treading on dangerous ground here, but could the Foundation pay something to give developers incentive or time to work on things like maintaining plone.org and such? I don't think that would be unreasonable ... it

Re: [Product-Developers] How attached to POI issue trackers are we?

2012-02-09 Thread Christian Ledermann
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[Product-Developers] How attached to POI issue trackers are we?

2012-02-08 Thread Jon Stahl
Hi all- A hypothetical question for all of you add-on product developers out there... I am doing some high-level thinking (which I will be sharing soon) about the future architecture for add-on product data in plone.org, and one question that's occurred to me is whether we are at a point where

Re: [Product-Developers] How attached to POI issue trackers are we?

2012-02-08 Thread Nathan Van Gheem
I still use them but would rather not. If you put a deprecation date up, it'd help force me to more more of my packages to github and startup the tracker there also. +1 for github hosted. Very nice to have it coupled with the code repo. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Jon Stahl

Re: [Product-Developers] How attached to POI issue trackers are we?

2012-02-08 Thread Jon Stahl
On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 4:41 PM, derek aus...@pointerstop.ca wrote: On Feb 8, 3:48 pm, Nathan Van Gheem vangh...@gmail.com wrote: I still use them but would rather not. If you put a deprecation date up, it'd help force me to more more of my packages to github and startup the tracker there also.

Re: [Product-Developers] How attached to POI issue trackers are we?

2012-02-08 Thread Nathan Van Gheem
I wouldn't need them exported. We could just close them to new submissions for a period before completely shutting em down. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 9:57 PM, Jon Stahl jonst...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 4:41 PM, derek aus...@pointerstop.ca wrote: On Feb 8, 3:48 pm, Nathan Van

Re: [Product-Developers] How attached to POI issue trackers are we?

2012-02-08 Thread Nathan Van Gheem
Maybe we just always keep them read-only then. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 11:35 PM, T Kim Nguyen ngu...@uwosh.edu wrote: What about the history we would be losing? Or bugs that have been lingering, still unclosed? I know I'm not a power coder but I still use Poi. How many products have not

Re: [Product-Developers] How attached to POI issue trackers are we?

2012-02-08 Thread Dylan Jay
On 09/02/2012, at 6:42 AM, Jon Stahl wrote: Hi all- A hypothetical question for all of you add-on product developers out there... I am doing some high-level thinking (which I will be sharing soon) about the future architecture for add-on product data in plone.org, and one question that's

Re: [Product-Developers] How attached to POI issue trackers are we?

2012-02-08 Thread Andreas Jung
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sorry guys but once again: you can not force a project to move to Github (sources and trackers) without explicit agreement of the package owner or current package maintainer - at least not for active packages where let's say the issue tracker is

Re: [Product-Developers] How attached to POI issue trackers are we?

2012-02-08 Thread Timo Stollenwerk
Am 08.02.2012 20:48, schrieb Nathan Van Gheem: I still use them but would rather not. If you put a deprecation date up, it'd help force me to more more of my packages to github and startup the tracker there also. +1 for github hosted. Very nice to have it coupled with the code repo. +1