Re: [Plucker DB] Charset metadata of sequences of "linked" text records

2006-04-10 Thread Konstantin Khomoutov
et the charset metadata for those records. It's simple: the metadata is only assigned to the head record of a sequence, both for continued and linked sequences. Then imagine a reader is processing a request for a record that is in the middle of a sequence of linked records. How does the reader

Re: [Plucker DB] Charset metadata of sequences of "linked" text records

2006-04-10 Thread Konstantin Khomoutov
On Mon, Apr 10, 2006 at 09:13:49AM -0400, Alexander R Pruss wrote: >>Documents generated by older versions of PyPlucker exist. > Sure, but fixing PyPlucker will not fix these documents. If PyPlucker > is to be changed, I'd make sure that the continuous page method is the > default, and that the

Re: [Plucker DB] Charset metadata of sequences of "linked" text records

2006-04-10 Thread Alexander R Pruss
David A. Desrosiers wrote: Is there any reason to worry too much about these old-style links? There is not much reason for a pyplucker user to generate them nowadays. Will removing that support break existing Plucker documents that are distributed on the web today? I know of a lot of pl

Re: [Plucker DB] Charset metadata of sequences of "linked" text records

2006-04-10 Thread Alexander R Pruss
Konstantin Khomoutov wrote: Documents generated by older versions of PyPlucker exist. Sure, but fixing PyPlucker will not fix these documents. If PyPlucker is to be changed, I'd make sure that the continuous page method is the default, and that the other option is marked as deprecated. Ale

Re: [Plucker DB] Charset metadata of sequences of "linked" text records

2006-04-10 Thread David A. Desrosiers
Is there any reason to worry too much about these old-style links? There is not much reason for a pyplucker user to generate them nowadays. Will removing that support break existing Plucker documents that are distributed on the web today? I know of a lot of places who have done conversion

Re: [Plucker DB] Charset metadata of sequences of "linked" text records

2006-04-10 Thread Konstantin Khomoutov
On Mon, Apr 10, 2006 at 12:23:42AM -0400, Alexander R. Pruss wrote: > Is there any reason to worry too much about these old-style links? > There is not much reason for a pyplucker user to generate them nowadays. Documents generated by older versions of PyPlucker exist. For example, I have lots of

Re: [Plucker DB] Charset metadata of sequences of "linked" text records

2006-04-09 Thread Alexander R. Pruss
Is there any reason to worry too much about these old-style links? There is not much reason for a pyplucker user to generate them nowadays. ALex -- Dr. Alexander R. Pruss Department of Philosophy Georgetown University Washington, DC 20057-1133 U.S.A. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] online papers and

[Plucker DB] Charset metadata of sequences of "linked" text records

2006-04-09 Thread Konstantin Khomoutov
Some time ago I started the discussion on similar topic (metadata, and--especially--charset metadata) of sequences of "continued" text records in Plucker documents. Support for them was successfully added to Vade-Mecum, and now I have questions about how to handle charset metadata of se

Re: metadata

2004-03-01 Thread Michael Nordstrom
On Mon, Mar 01, 2004, Alexander R. Pruss wrote: > Currently, whenever the metadata format is updated, the old metadata is > wiped. I wonder if we could keep separate version numbers for bookmark > data (and annotations, once these appear), so that these wouldn't be lost > on

Re: metadata

2004-03-01 Thread Michael Nordstrom
On Mon, Mar 01, 2004, Alexander R. Pruss wrote: > Could someone explain to me how the metadata record and UID numbering works? It's pretty obvious to me (and explained in the source code), so I'm not sure what more to explain. > What would need to happen to insert additional meta

metadata

2004-03-01 Thread Alexander R. Pruss
Could someone explain to me how the metadata record and UID numbering works? What would need to happen to insert additional metadata records for annotations and an annotation index? Alex -- Dr. Alexander R. Pruss Department of Philosophy Georgetown University Washington, DC 20057-1133 U.S.A. e

metadata

2004-03-01 Thread Alexander R. Pruss
Currently, whenever the metadata format is updated, the old metadata is wiped. I wonder if we could keep separate version numbers for bookmark data (and annotations, once these appear), so that these wouldn't be lost on a metadata update. Alex -- Dr. Alexander R. Pruss || e-mail: [

Re: Viewing metadata?

2002-09-29 Thread Rob OConnor
> Is the metadata > record used at all by the Viewer? AFAIK, so far just the GTK viewer shows it, not the Palm viewer. Best wishes, Robert __ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc

Re: Viewing metadata?

2002-09-23 Thread Bill Janssen
Currently the PalmOS viewer just looks at the Owner ID in the metadata field. Bill ___ plucker-dev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.rubberchicken.org/mailman/listinfo/plucker-dev

Re: Viewing metadata?

2002-09-23 Thread Michael Nordström
> I see no way of viewing the contents of the metadata record from within the > Viewer. The PalmOS viewer doesn't use that meta data, yet. I think the GTK viewer uses the meta data, though. /Mike ___ plucker-dev mailing list [EMAIL PROT

Viewing metadata?

2002-09-23 Thread Laurens M. Fridael
Hi, I see no way of viewing the contents of the metadata record from within the Viewer. I've followed the Plucker format specification and created a metadata record specifying the author, title and publication date, but I see no way of checking these fields from within the Viewer. I

Re: added charset info to plucker doc; metadata record type

2001-10-17 Thread Bill Janssen
Looks great, Dirk. I'll switch over the code in TextParser.py to use it. Bill

Re: added charset info to plucker doc; metadata record type

2001-10-17 Thread Dirk Heiser
"Dirk" == Dirk Heiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> And at the end one idea: Whats about writing a parser that parse the >>> http://www.iana.org/assignments/character-sets and create and complete >>> NamedCharsets array? It seams to be easy and i think i could do this. Bill>> Great idea! Dirk

Re: added charset info to plucker doc; metadata record type

2001-10-17 Thread Dirk Heiser
so FYI: This are the output from python 2.0 >> i get: >> >> --- >> Converted plucker:/home.html >> Default charset is 1252 >> 1252 >> 0 >> Converted plucker:/~special~/index >> -- >> >> and 04E4 (1252) are written in the pl

Re: added charset info to plucker doc; metadata record type

2001-10-16 Thread Bill Janssen
" form. > i get: > > --- > Converted plucker:/home.html > Default charset is 1252 > 1252 > 0 > Converted plucker:/~special~/index > -- > > and 04E4 (1252) are written in the plucker DBs metadata record. But > the http://www.iana.org/assignments/character-

Re: added charset info to plucker doc; metadata record type

2001-10-16 Thread Dirk Heiser
"Dirk" == Dirk Heiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Dirk> and 04E4 (1252) are written in the plucker DBs metadata record. But Dirk> the http://www.iana.org/assignments/character-sets say: Dirk> - Dirk> Name: windows-1252 Dirk> MIBenum: 2252 Dirk> So

Re: added charset info to plucker doc; metadata record type

2001-10-16 Thread Dirk Heiser
plucker:/home.html Default charset is 1252 1252 0 Converted plucker:/~special~/index -- and 04E4 (1252) are written in the plucker DBs metadata record. But the http://www.iana.org/assignments/character-sets say: - Name: windows-1252 MIBenum: 2252 Source: Microsoft (see ../character

Re: added charset info to plucker doc; metadata record type

2001-10-15 Thread Bill Janssen
> Getting the Default charset (no Charset set in command line or > plucker.ini) with Python 2.0b1 work fine but using Python 1.52 it does > not work. Do you have an idea? No, it doesn't work on UNIX either; the locale.getlocale() call isn't in 1.5.2. I just punt on that case, and say that the de

Re: added charset info to plucker doc; metadata record type

2001-10-15 Thread Dirk Heiser
"Bill" == Bill Janssen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Bill> locale.setlocale(locale.LC_ALL, "") Bill> encoding = locale.getlocale()[1] Bill> If that also fails to produce a charset, the default charset is left Bill> unassigned. (Using a Solaris 2.6 machine in California, the standard Bill> ope

Re: added charset info to plucker doc; metadata record type

2001-10-14 Thread Bill Janssen
> Maybe all these problems will be solved if we use unicode. Yes, I think that's right. UTF-8 should be able to handle all the characters in the various character sets you mention. Bill

Re: added charset info to plucker doc; metadata record type

2001-10-12 Thread Zailong Bian
I made a mistake about the charsets/codesets. What I meant: - what if single byte code set is mixed with double byte code set? eg. iso8859-? with GB2312.80. - What if two similiar code sets are mixed? eg. GB2312 and BIG5. All of them create troubles! Unless they are clearly tagged, it is di

Re: added charset info to plucker doc; metadata record type

2001-10-12 Thread Bill Janssen
> It is a good idea. But what happens when charsets are mixed in one single page > of the document? This is not the stuff you can always avoid. Zailong, are you thinking of the multiple code pages in Big5 or EUC-JP, for instance? These are still single codesets, even though they have multiple

Re: added charset info to plucker doc; metadata record type

2001-10-12 Thread Bill Janssen
Hi, Zailong. > It is a good idea. But what happens when charsets are mixed in one single page > of the document? This is not the stuff you can always avoid. There are few (if any) viewers that can handle this scenario. In addition, web pages are pretty much required to be in a single charset.

Re: added charset info to plucker doc; metadata record type

2001-10-12 Thread Zailong Bian
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Folks, > > I've modified the parser to look for character set information, and > add it to the Plucker DB, in the manner that we dicussed a few weeks > ago. If a default character set is detected, it creates a record of a > new kind (M

added charset info to plucker doc; metadata record type

2001-10-12 Thread Bill Janssen
Folks, I've modified the parser to look for character set information, and add it to the Plucker DB, in the manner that we dicussed a few weeks ago. If a default character set is detected, it creates a record of a new kind (METADATA), and writes the IANA MIBenum for that charset in th