Im also an advocate linux user, and an inactive member of PLUG since 2000. I
have an upcoming linux seminar/training in Northern Samar this coming
October, I was invited to introduce linux to my fellow samarinos. The
nationwide raid triggers IT schools and other operators of computer shops to
l
On Wed, 2005-09-21 at 14:03 +0800, Orlando Andico wrote:
> but if you look at the MODDER community (e.g. Counterstrike, DoTA All
> Stars) they have something similar (sort of) to the OSS community.
> there might be something there..
Perhaps if the tools were made as available -- like the tools you
On Wed, 2005-09-21 at 11:50 +0800, Irvin Piraman wrote:
> If open source would be adopted by government through due process,
> i.e., pass bill in congresss, then we would have a more solid program
> for the use of OSS. There is no harm in helping out in small ways
> spread the use of OSS in the com
on the topic of games --- the engines ARE out there: crystal space,
descent 3, quake I and II.. all of these have been open-sourced.
so it's not about technology, it's about everything else. the
everything else which i claim, the open-source community has fallen
down flat.
but if you look at the
Kelsey Hartigan Go wrote:
> Much later -- 1998
Really? I remember receiving PLUG mail from an IPhil server when I
first subscribed in late 1996 to early 1997, around the time of the
transition from the 1.2 Linux kernel series to 2.0. I was in third year
college then.
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Dong Calmada wrote:
On Wednesday 21 September 2005 11:11 am, Alexander Santiago wrote:
Now is there any solution for that?
The solution is at the attitudinal and will levels. I know of a State
University that remained true to the standards set by the COA but defied the
technologies
On Wednesday 21 September 2005 11:11 am, Alexander Santiago wrote:
> Now is there any solution for that?
The solution is at the attitudinal and will levels. I know of a State
University that remained true to the standards set by the COA but defied the
technologies or methods imposed by the Commi
Hi, there! Here are mine:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ian-dexter/tags/linuxworld2005/
Enjoy! :)
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On 9/21/05, Alexander Santiago <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
we people here(in PLUG) have done that sharing CDs/information about the open source.
but how can someone migrate to open source when every month you are
mandated to input information to an M$ Access file (program?) by the
gov.
an every m
you mean it can display the those forms (when tweaked)?On 9/21/05, Jerome Gotangco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 9/21/05,
Alexander Santiago <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Now is there any solution for that?
Or is there someone here knows how to access/run an M$ Access file on linux?
The upcoming Op
On 9/21/05, Alexander Santiago <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Now is there any solution for that?
Or is there someone here knows how to access/run an M$ Access file on linux?
The upcoming OpenOffice.org 2.0 Base can open up MS Access files but will probably not run it unless the file is tweaked.
Jerom
we people here(in PLUG) have done that sharing CDs/information about the open source.
but how can someone migrate to open source when every month you are
mandated to input information to an M$ Access file (program?) by the
gov.
an every month you are mandated to e-pay/e-file returns on a site th
>>
>>
>> Yes, that's a bigger question which makes things more complex: The
>> games themselves rely on DirectX. Even Cedega is a reverse engineered
>> implementation of it.
>>
> Which is considerably a blatant disregard and violation of the EULA.
> Right? Or do you mean Cedega is an "a
clarification though,
we can only manage as much. operations are primarily undertaken in luzon
area, we have already touched with associations of internet cafes of la
union, ilocos norte and sur, pangasinan. kung may gustong tumulong ,
email me offlist.
by the way, we are doing this for FREE.
we are conducting seminars on linux right now to address this, please
email me offlist if anybody can help out in spreading the linux advocacy
Matt Arnilo S. Baluyos (Mailing Lists) wrote:
On 9/20/05, sherwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
yup, 95% raw ng cagayan internetcafes are closed.
On Wed, 2005-09-21 at 02:40 +0800, Orlando Andico wrote:
> On 9/21/05, Dean Michael Berris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Perhaps, but it's not only the Philippines that stands to gain
> -- you
> have a market named China, who incidentally "do not pay for
> their
>
are we referring to Huawei here? :)
yup & afaik, china was trained by the west to
reverse-engineer & mass-produce...
Orlando Andico wrote:
... they build their own routers,
...with the capability to "roll their own" in almost ANYTHING,...
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On 9/21/05, Dean Michael Berris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
And since necessity is the mother of invention, there's a need right nowfor an alternative -- or something -- to allow our neighbors to actuallybe able to do something about their (usually) primary source of income.
Trying to help is the le
On 9/21/05, Dean Michael Berris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Perhaps, but it's not only the Philippines that stands to gain -- youhave a market named China, who incidentally "do not pay for theirsoftware". If someone gets them to actually enforce IPR andinternational copyright laws/standards, then we
On Wed, 2005-09-21 at 01:39 +0800, Orlando Andico wrote:
>
> the bottom line is, the market has gotten used to very low per-hour
> pricing, and this pricing is partially due to the use of illegal
> software. so, assuming the government gets tough on piracy (and is not
> just undergoing a spastic f
On Wed, 2005-09-21 at 01:42 +0800, Orlando Andico wrote:
> On 9/20/05, Dean Michael Berris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I agree. But let's go about it the most productive way -- by
> actually
> going to your local computer shops, and telling them about the
> merits o
On 9/20/05, Dean Michael Berris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I agree. But let's go about it the most productive way -- by actuallygoing to your local computer shops, and telling them about the merits ofOpen Source software. This works best if you really know what you're
talking about, or if you have
the REAL issue is that, internet gaming cafe's PER SE are not a sustainable business.
i've known quite a few people who got into this business, and the
margins are RAZOR THIN. just the RMA's on your busted hardware can make
or break you. what more, having to pay lots and lots of licensing fees?
t
Brent and the other members of the linux community in cdo have already
began doing their part of pushing FOSS use in some
institutions/organizations/establishements.
brent is somewhere on this list,
and ryan has already forwarded ur email to KLUG.
Ryan Luyao wrote:
Cagayan de Oro LUG
KLUG
i updated my blogsite posting[1] for the game list to include the
listing site from icculus.org[2]. check it out. :)
[1] http://ramfree17.org/capsule/?p=40
[2] http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
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"Programming, an artform that fights back"
Anuerin G. Diaz
Registered Linux User #246176
Cagayan de Oro LUG
KLUG (Kagayanon Linux Users Group)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://cdo.linux.org.ph/mailman/listinfo/linuxOn 9/20/05,
Dong Calmada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
PLUGgers based in Cagayan de Oro City, please get recognized.I've got an NGO contact based in the city which wants to try Linu
Orlando Andico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Yeah, all this talk of WINE and what-not is useless because the games
> themselves must be licensed anyway even if you're running WINE or
> Crossover.
True, but there was an implicit assumption (at least, that's what I see)
about getting MMOs (which I
PLUGgers based in Cagayan de Oro City, please get recognized.
I've got an NGO contact based in the city which wants to try Linux as an
alternative to their unlicensed Windows system.
--
Dong B. Calmada
National Coordinator
PEACE Foundation, Inc.
http://www.peace.net.ph
Vice-President for Exter
On Tue, 2005-09-20 at 19:03 +0800, Jerome Gotangco wrote:
>
>
> > The question now is: will the original developers allow
> such?
>
>
> the question should be: will the game publishers, that have
> an
> existing partnership with R
give me a copy... just email it to me. thanks!
jun
On 9/20/05, Dominique Cimafranca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi, all,
>
> Photos are up at http://sketches.textamerica.com. Just thumbnails and
> some slightly larger pics. If you want the full size versions of some of
> the pics, drop me an
gg sorry sorry, wrong topic. g. :(sherwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi, I represent a group that's trying to shift fromwindows to linux. So far we've been successful withlan games but so far stumped at all online games usinggameguard in the philippines (ragnarok, rose online,mu online, gun
On Tue, 2005-09-20 at 11:07 +0800, Irvin Piraman wrote:
>
> http://news.inq7.net/infotech/index.php?index=1&story_id=50589
>
> I think what we lack is a strong representation in Congress. We need
> to urge our
> "beloved" congressmen to push through open source. Strong influence
> comes from
> th
> The question now is: will the original developers allow such?the question should be: will the game publishers, that have an
existing partnership with Redmond, allow such?
Yes, that's a bigger question which makes things more complex: The
games themselves rely on DirectX. Even Cedega is a revers
Jerome Gotangco wrote:
The question now is: will the original developers allow such?
the question should be: will the game publishers, that have an
existing partnership with Redmond, allow such?
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On 9/20/05, Orlando Andico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yeah, all this talk of WINE and what-not is useless because the games
> themselves must be licensed anyway even if you're running WINE or Crossover.
>
> Alam ko na! mag video-karera nalang sila hehehehehehehe.
Linux shop by day ang you
On 9/20/05, Zak B. Elep <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Orlando Andico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > the bottom-line is, the "gaming shop" business model falls apart when
> > you apply strict software pricing to it.
> >
> > it's like the marijuana-growing business model. it makes money, but
> > fa
On 9/20/05, Jerome Gotangco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
There goes the question: how would one build a Linux-based business
model for a gaming shop?
I doubt its possible with what is currently available as linux-native
binaries. But if the game publishers do work/partner with an entity
like Transg
On 9/20/05, Paolo Alexis Falcone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
.. With windows games - impossible.I'd rather stick to a PlayStation II. :D
Yeah, all this talk of WINE and what-not is useless because the games themselves must be licensed anyway even if you're running WINE or Crossover.Alam ko na! mag v
There goes the question: how would one build a Linux-based businessmodel for a gaming shop?
I doubt its possible with what is currently available as linux-native
binaries. But if the game publishers do work/partner with an entity
like Transgaming, it can happen. The question now is: will the orig
On 9/20/05, Paolo Alexis Falcone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 9/20/05, Orlando Andico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> the bottom-line is, the "gaming shop" business model falls apart when you> apply strict software pricing to it.
>> it's like the marijuana-growing business model. it makes money, but f
On 9/20/05, Zak B. Elep <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Orlando Andico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > the bottom-line is, the "gaming shop" business model falls apart when
> > you apply strict software pricing to it.
> >
> > it's like the marijuana-growing business model. it makes money, but
> > f
On 9/20/05, Orlando Andico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> the bottom-line is, the "gaming shop" business model falls apart when you
> apply strict software pricing to it.
>
> it's like the marijuana-growing business model. it makes money, but falls
> apart when the police arrive to throw you in jail
Orlando Andico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> the bottom-line is, the "gaming shop" business model falls apart when
> you apply strict software pricing to it.
>
> it's like the marijuana-growing business model. it makes money, but
> falls apart when the police arrive to throw you in jail.
There go
This is what I'm trying to explain to Game Shop owners, they need to
license their game titles. And to the cafe owners, they are also
obliged to license their MS Office, Photoshop, Corel and other
software. Using Linux as your OS/platform is not immunity from raids.
On 9/20/05, Orlando Andico <[EM
the bottom-line is, the "gaming shop" business model falls apart when you apply strict software pricing to it.it's like the marijuana-growing business model. it makes money, but falls apart when the police arrive to throw you in jail.
On 9/20/05, Ariz C. Jacinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
afaik, an
They don't bother reading the licenses. Aside from the occasionalgeek, IP lawyers, and corporate sysadmins, who does?
Maybe they will now =)
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afaik, an alliance among game publishers (including sierra, etc.) had
been formed
(with a local presence) against software piracy. maybe they're only
targeting
*corporate* users, hehehe.
Orlando Andico wrote:
i find it strange though --- all the LAN shops are complaining about
the cost of w
On 9/20/05, Orlando Andico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> some games do work on linux, e.g. warcraft III works under wine.
>
> i find it strange though --- all the LAN shops are complaining about the
> cost of windows, but most if not all of their game software is pirated
> anyway (exception: ragnar
some games do work on linux, e.g. warcraft III works under wine.i find it strange though --- all the LAN shops are complaining about the cost of windows, but most if not all of their game software is pirated anyway (exception: ragnarok, khan, tantra, rose, the usual crop of local online games).
On
There is non at the moment. The game publishers must be involved with
this regard instead of the general public requesting/expecting the open
source community to do a reverse-engineer on the said app (gameguard). There should be R&D involved.On 9/20/05, sherwin <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Hi, I repr
Hi, I represent a group that's trying to shift from
windows to linux. So far we've been successful with
lan games but so far stumped at all online games using
gameguard in the philippines (ragnarok, rose online,
mu online, gunbound online are just a few). We're
also trying to release a "linux.ph-
ramil sagum wrote:
>ramil sagum wrote:
> > either make your own printer driver (start with the unidriver from the
>
>
>>windows ddk) or use any PostScript printer + an image converter
>>
>>any application --> Postscript printer driver -->.PS (postscript file)
>>---> converter ---> image/jpg
>>
On 9/20/05, Jerome Gotangco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Who is James Gotangco? Surely not my brother =)
>
Email Sir Ricky about that...
>
> On 9/20/05, Clair Ching <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > http://www.mozcom.com/linuxworld2005/
> >
> > The link to the presentations, arranged by speake
Miguel A Paraz wrote:
On 9/13/05, Marvin T. Pascual <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[1] History of GNU/Linux in the Philippines.
This is long... but from what I know, eric pareja was the first Pinoy
user and it was brought in by Jonathan Marsden, missionary and sysop
of FEBnet BBS.
On 9/20/05, Jerome Gotangco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Who is James Gotangco? Surely not my brother =)
Jerome:
Could you send a copy of your slides to me via email? I'd have it
uploaded in the PLUG website. I'm still waiting for a couple more
slides (aside from you, from Gerard Paul Java, Artur
Hi, all,
Photos are up at http://sketches.textamerica.com. Just thumbnails and
some slightly larger pics. If you want the full size versions of some of
the pics, drop me an email. A full size pic is close to a megabyte.
Dominique Gerald M Cimafranca
villageidiotsavant.blogspot.com
Dumaguete Ci
Who is James Gotangco? Surely not my brother =)On 9/20/05, Clair Ching <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
http://www.mozcom.com/linuxworld2005/
The link to the presentations, arranged by speakers' last names. Also,there are some slides of the advocacy talks =)
Jerome Gotangco[EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROT
http://www.mozcom.com/linuxworld2005/
The link to the presentations, arranged by speakers' last names. Also,
there are some slides of the advocacy talks =)
On 9/17/05, Paolo Alexis Falcone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 2005-09-16 at 23:10 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I have slides f
Alwin S. Espiritu wrote:
> Hi guys!!! I just wana ask ow can I get the active users in mrtg, what is
> the exact ifref= ?. thanks guys!
What "active users"? Do you mean the active users on a RAS device such
as a Cisco AS5300? The active users on a GNU/Linux or other *nix
system? Or something el
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