Re: [plug] is the local pool of F/OSS manpower sustainable? (WAS: obstacles to starting local open source company)

2007-06-06 Thread Ariz Jacinto
On 6/6/07, Ambrosio Berdijo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: . ... the best wants to work for google, nobody wants to work for microsoft. actually, if you've attended their last conference, you'll hear something like this: "the best will start their own company and [might] sell it to the big

Re: [plug] is the local pool of F/OSS manpower sustainable? (WAS: obstacles to starting local open source company)

2007-06-06 Thread Ambrosio Berdijo
I think this topic would be a great birds-of-the-same-feather discussion in the next local open source conference.. -- Rants aside, I think we have forgotten why people got into open source in the first place...first of all there has to be the PASSION, here is a recent example: How did Bram C

Re: [plug] is the local pool of F/OSS manpower sustainable? (WAS: obstacles to starting local open source company)

2007-06-06 Thread Cocoy Dayao
On 06 6, 07, at 9:03 PM, jumbz tayamen wrote: > The key to any (profitable) technology business is propietorship. You > develop and (solely) market a specific technology, even if you have to > carve your own niche market. That is profitable. > No it isn't. several billion dollars worth industry c

Re: [plug] is the local pool of F/OSS manpower sustainable? (WAS: obstacles to starting local open source company)

2007-06-06 Thread Ariz Jacinto
On 6/6/07, Rogelio Serrano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: But thats only the lucky few. What we need is an infrastructure for research and discovery. Thats where the government can help. Venture capital maybe but then its catch 22 again. No market no venture capital. perhaps what yo

Re: [plug] is the local pool of F/OSS manpower sustainable? (WAS: obstacles to starting local open source company)

2007-06-06 Thread Ariz Jacinto
On 6/6/07, Miguel Paraz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: . For veterans, due to economic concerns (which we've discussed here in PLUG), Pinoys with the skills don't have the spare time to hack on fun stuff like Python/QT, even if it may become productive in the future. Or, if they do have some fre

Re: [plug] is the local pool of F/OSS manpower sustainable? (WAS: obstacles to starting local open source company)

2007-06-06 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 6/6/07, jumbz tayamen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > you are correct, no roads = no cars. but people need to move so they > used horses, and here in the philippines they used carabaos. So when > there are no roads and you cannot sell cars, sell horses and carabaos; > or sell sturdy sandals becaus

Re: [plug] is the local pool of F/OSS manpower sustainable? (WAS: obstacles to starting local open source company)

2007-06-06 Thread jumbz tayamen
The key to any (profitable) technology business is propietorship. You develop and (solely) market a specific technology, even if you have to carve your own niche market. That is profitable. The key to sustaining profitability is constant development, research and constant development. Now, if your

[plug] I'm running Fedora 7.89, the absolute latest!

2007-06-06 Thread Pablo Manalastas
For a pictorial evidence, check my blog: http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-0OCENX4haau1oA38TsiK4DP2YLk-?cq=1&p=58 Fedora development branch (Rawhide) is not really that unstable, and I believe it is just as stable as Debian SID/Lenny, which I am also running. He he he . . . Fedora Rawhide, howeve

Re: [plug] is the local pool of F/OSS manpower sustainable? (WAS: obstacles to starting local open source company)

2007-06-06 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 6/6/07, Jerome S. Gotangco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Ariz Jacinto wrote: > > we also had this kind of conversation days ago but with a different > > focus which is, > > > > "is the local pool of F/OSS manpower sustainable?" > > We seem to be

Re: [plug] is the local pool of F/OSS manpower sustainable? (WAS: obstacles to starting local open source company)

2007-06-06 Thread Rom Feria
At the risk of another language war, I think that people just do not see how much industry demands for skilled Java developers, both locally and internationally. I have been advocating Java (in addition to other technologies but more on Java, of course!) and almost always attacked by those

Re: [plug] Error in qmail. Anyone experience this?

2007-06-06 Thread Edel SM
i have may /var/qmail/control/locals empty. but i have my fqdn of hte host in /var/qmail/control/me, fqdn host & domain in rcpthosts. this is a working smtp server. hth. --edel On 6/5/07, Nelson Serafica <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi to all, I encountered this error for the first time. I can

Re: [plug] is the local pool of F/OSS manpower sustainable? (WAS: obstacles to starting local open source company)

2007-06-06 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 6/6/07, Ariz Jacinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > we also had this kind of conversation days ago but with a different focus > which is, > > "is the local pool of F/OSS manpower sustainable?" > > > we do have PLUG, pOSitive (http://positive.ph/ ), schools with integrated > F/OSS > curriculum, Tra

Re: [plug] obstacles to starting local open source company

2007-06-06 Thread Rogelio Serrano
On 6/5/07, Rogelio Serrano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The truth is, its not a sustainable business. > > The only way to sustain open source > > -- > Lay low and nourish in obscurity > sorry about that. I thought i discarded that snippet. I sent it by mistake. -- Lay low and nourish in obscurit

Re: [plug] is the local pool of F/OSS manpower sustainable? (WAS: obstacles to starting local open source company)

2007-06-06 Thread Miguel Paraz
On 6/5/07, Ariz Jacinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > for example, if we're going to look for a Qt developer, we only have 2 > places to > look for. then if we're going to look for a Python developer, we only know 3 > > persons who can really code using the said language. How about (and the > l

Re: [plug] is the local pool of F/OSS manpower sustainable? (WAS: obstacles to starting local open source company)

2007-06-06 Thread JM Ibanez
"Jerome S. Gotangco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Ariz Jacinto wrote: >> we also had this kind of conversation days ago but with a different >> focus which is, >> >> "is the local pool of F/OSS manpower sustainable?" > > We seem to be doing well at the Java front, although there is still > short