Re: [plug] Kahel OS. Do IT Right.

2009-09-16 Thread meric mara
(since its web debut, soft launch)  and  Kahel OS already got 100+ downloads.   Thank you. Meric --- On Wed, 9/16/09, Michael Tinsay wrote: From: Michael Tinsay Subject: Re: [plug] Kahel OS. Do IT Right. To: "Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Technical Discussion List" Date

Re: [plug] Kahel OS. Do IT Right.

2009-09-15 Thread Jimmy Lim
> It's their distro.  If they can provide a significantly faster (and still > stable) distro using this flag, we all can benefit from it.  Even if they > fail, their experience may lead to improvements to GCC or other areas in the > open source universe, maybe even to the kernel.  I say let them

Re: [plug] Kahel OS. Do IT Right.

2009-09-15 Thread Alec Joseph Rivera
Michael Tinsay wrote: From: Jimmy Lim To: Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Technical Discussion List Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 0:13:15 Subject: Re: [plug] Kahel OS. Do IT Right. On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:05 PM, Paolo Falcone wrote: The "never ever use -O3

Re: [plug] Kahel OS. Do IT Right.

2009-09-15 Thread Michael Tinsay
- Original Message > From: Norbert P. Copones > > ... or you can also use another compiler which may > optimize better than gcc. Yeah... there was a thread before about how much "better" the Intel compiler is at optimization vs GCC. IBM also released a compiler with an AI-based opt

Re: [plug] Kahel OS. Do IT Right.

2009-09-15 Thread Michael Tinsay
> From: Jimmy Lim > To: Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Technical Discussion List > > Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 0:13:15 > Subject: Re: [plug] Kahel OS. Do IT Right. > > On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:05 PM, Paolo Falcone wrote: > > The "never

Re: [plug] Kahel OS. Do IT Right.

2009-09-15 Thread Norbert P. Copones
ssp has problems with -O3 on some applications. boost regex also shows problems. for stability and safety, better optimize it with -O2 or lower specially if you're using gcc or better test it first before compiling your whole system with -O3 or you can also use another compiler which may optimize b

Re: [plug] Kahel OS. Do IT Right.

2009-09-15 Thread Jimmy Lim
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:05 PM, Paolo Falcone wrote: > The "never ever use -O3" isn't an absolute rule. > > What the -O3 optimization flag does are turning on the following > options: -finline-functions, -funswitch-loops, -fpredictive-commoning, > -fgcse-after-reload and -ftree-vectorize. These,

Re: [plug] Kahel OS. Do IT Right.

2009-09-15 Thread Paolo Falcone
The "never ever use -O3" isn't an absolute rule. What the -O3 optimization flag does are turning on the following options: -finline-functions, -funswitch-loops, -fpredictive-commoning, -fgcse-after-reload and -ftree-vectorize. These, when coupled with good code, can produce remarkable differences

Re: [plug] Kahel OS. Do IT Right.

2009-09-15 Thread Jimmy Lim
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 11:37 PM, Alec Joseph Rivera wrote: > Currently, we use GCC with -O3 and target i686 as the LCD for our > compilation. Rule of thumb, never ever use -O3 optimization on gcc-4.x.x. [0] -O3: This is the highest level of optimization possible, and also the riskiest. It will

Re: [plug] Kahel OS. Do IT Right.

2009-09-14 Thread Alec Joseph Rivera
Hi Sir Tito and Sir Zak: Hi, thanks for the pointers. I'm Alec Joseph Rivera, an R&D Developer (sometimes masquerading as a Web developer too) here at 8LayerTech. Zak B. Elep wrote: > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Tito Mari Francis Escaño > wrote: > >> Most distros are either Debian- or R

Re: [plug] Kahel OS. Do IT Right.

2009-09-14 Thread Zak B. Elep
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Tito Mari Francis Escaño wrote: > Most distros are either Debian- or Red Hat-based with minor Slackware > derivatives (CRUX, upon which Arch Linux upon which KahelOS is based, was > inspired by Slackware). > > Here are suggestions for what can make this a more ra

Re: [plug] Kahel OS. Do IT Right.

2009-09-13 Thread Tito Mari Francis Escaño
I wish to cause no offense but the catch with this marketing-ese message is that KahelOS does not want to be different and therefore doomed to be drowned in the sea of thousands of Linux-based OS distros, I like the use of Orange though, thus the word 'Kahel'. Most distros are either Debian- or Re

[plug] Kahel OS. Do IT Right.

2009-09-13 Thread meric mara
Dear Fellow Open Source Enthusiasts and Linux Advocate cum "Passionistas": The Advent of one of the Filipino Contributions has dawned to the IT World. Kahel OS. At first, i wish to write "... The Advent of one of the significant and relev