Re: [PLUG] Small script webapps

2009-12-12 Thread Neal
On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Joe Pruett wrote: >> Speaking of apache/HTML, I would really appreciate it if someone could >> point me to the HTML CGI verbiage needed to call a function to return >> the _initial_ contents of a user-changeable text/numeric box. I found >> many many functions for

Re: [PLUG] Need older wxwidgets package in Fedora 11

2009-12-12 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 22:36:27 -0800 John Jason Jordan dijo: >I am trying to compile XaraLX to run on Fedora 11 x86_64. The instructions are >here: > >http://www.xaraxtreme.org/Developers/xara-xtreme-for-linux-build-instructions.html > >I have gotten through the instructions down to the ./configure

[PLUG] Need older wxwidgets package in Fedora 11

2009-12-12 Thread John Jason Jordan
I am trying to compile XaraLX to run on Fedora 11 x86_64. The instructions are here: http://www.xaraxtreme.org/Developers/xara-xtreme-for-linux-build-instructions.html I have gotten through the instructions down to the ./configure command, but then it fails because apparently it is looking for wx

[PLUG] Flash audio corruption?

2009-12-12 Thread Mike Connors
Many a time I get garbled or no audio in Youtube, Pandora or flash multimedia sites. System audio still works if I play a cd or stream internet radio via Amarok. I can restore it be killing the browser and restarting it. It happens in Firefox & Chrome. I'm running Debian Sid. I'm thinking the

Re: [PLUG] How many of us write small scripts?

2009-12-12 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:28:53 -0800 "Richard C. Steffens" dijo: >Another idea might be to build our own class around something like this >free (as in beer) tutorial download: > >http://linux.wareseeker.com/Home-Education/Advanced-Bash-Scripting-Guide-5.4.zip/26834bc1b6 There you go. We have a te

Re: [PLUG] Can't find alsaconf...

2009-12-12 Thread Mike Connors
Michael Robinson wrote: > What package in Slackware 10.1 provides alsaconf? To the best of my knowledge on a new install of Slackware, Alsa is the default sound engine but it's usually not configured. You have to be root to run it. If not is should be in the alsa-utils pkg. __

Re: [PLUG] Converting mbox to maildir II

2009-12-12 Thread Bruce
Rich Shepard wrote: > On Sat, 12 Dec 2009, Rich Shepard wrote: > > >> As I continue reading dirvish documentation before trying a dry-run I >> learn the benefits of maildir to mbox germane to snapshot backups. 'Tis >> better to back up new messages individually than the entire mbox file for >>

[PLUG] Can't find alsaconf...

2009-12-12 Thread Michael Robinson
What package in Slackware 10.1 provides alsaconf? ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug

Re: [PLUG] How many of us write small scripts?

2009-12-12 Thread Andrew Jackman
On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Keith Lofstrom wrote: > So, I'm curious ... how many of us know enough to write quick shell > scripts?  How many of us know how to write quick 5 minute GUI hacks? At work, production crews can't program, but [shell] scripting is not "real" programming by departmen

Re: [PLUG] How many of us write small scripts?

2009-12-12 Thread Richard C. Steffens
John Jason Jordan wrote: > The advantage of a class is that it provides structure. I want to know > scripting, but won't get around to learning it on my own. But if I commit to a > class there is a bit of shame involved if I fail to show up, fail to do the > homework, fail to contribute in class, a

Re: [PLUG] How many of us write small scripts?

2009-12-12 Thread Tim Wescott
Keith Lofstrom wrote: > The most significant attraction of Linux/Unix for me is how easy > it is to do "cheap programming" - shell scripts, perl scripts, etc. > I am a mediocre programmer, but with Linux and a little bit of > knowledge I am able to automate many small tasks. This usually > means t

Re: [PLUG] Converting mbox to maildir II -- ANSWERED

2009-12-12 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sat, 12 Dec 2009, Rich Shepard wrote: > Let me add, too, that we're currently using POP rather than IMAP, 'cause > It Just Woiks. If I should switch from POP to IMAP while I'm doing all this > changing, please point me to stuff to read ... again in the postfix context. ANSWERED: no need t

Re: [PLUG] Converting mbox to maildir II

2009-12-12 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sat, 12 Dec 2009, Rich Shepard wrote: > As I continue reading dirvish documentation before trying a dry-run I > learn the benefits of maildir to mbox germane to snapshot backups. 'Tis > better to back up new messages individually than the entire mbox file for > each day's change. So, while mb

[PLUG] Converting mbox to maildir

2009-12-12 Thread Rich Shepard
As I continue reading dirvish documentation before trying a dry-run I learn the benefits of maildir to mbox germane to snapshot backups. 'Tis better to back up new messages individually than the entire mbox file for each day's change. So, while mbox has served me well there's now reason to chang

Re: [PLUG] How many of us write small scripts?

2009-12-12 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 14:46:27 -0800 Keith Lofstrom dijo: >On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 02:05:43PM -0800, John Jason Jordan wrote: >> On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 13:26:30 -0800 >> Keith Lofstrom dijo: >> >> >Perhaps I can help teach some scripting, and learn some GUI hacking >> >from others. The real value o

Re: [PLUG] Small script webapps

2009-12-12 Thread Joe Pruett
> Speaking of apache/HTML, I would really appreciate it if someone could > point me to the HTML CGI verbiage needed to call a function to return > the _initial_ contents of a user-changeable text/numeric box. I found > many many functions for calling a function on this, that, the other > thing, but

Re: [PLUG] How many of us write small scripts?

2009-12-12 Thread Joe Shisei Niski
On 12/12/2009 01:26 PM, Keith Lofstrom wrote: > The most significant attraction of Linux/Unix for me is how easy > it is to do "cheap programming" - shell scripts, perl scripts, etc. > I am a mediocre programmer, but with Linux and a little bit of > knowledge I am able to automate many small tasks.

Re: [PLUG] Small script webapps

2009-12-12 Thread Neal
Speaking of apache/HTML, I would really appreciate it if someone could point me to the HTML CGI verbiage needed to call a function to return the _initial_ contents of a user-changeable text/numeric box. I found many many functions for calling a function on this, that, the other thing, butterfly fla

Re: [PLUG] Small script webapps

2009-12-12 Thread Carlos Konstanski
On Sat, 12 Dec 2009, Keith Lofstrom wrote: > Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 14:21:45 -0800 > From: Keith Lofstrom > Reply-To: kei...@keithl.com > To: Carlos Konstanski > Cc: kei...@keithl.com, > "General Linux/UNIX discussion and help; civil and on-topic" > > Subject: Small script webapps > >

Re: [PLUG] How many of us write small scripts?

2009-12-12 Thread Keith Lofstrom
On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 02:05:43PM -0800, John Jason Jordan wrote: > On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 13:26:30 -0800 > Keith Lofstrom dijo: > > >Perhaps I can help teach some scripting, and learn some GUI hacking > >from others. The real value of open source systems is that they > >empower us to create, not

Re: [PLUG] How many of us write small scripts?

2009-12-12 Thread Denis Heidtmann
On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 2:05 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote: > On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 13:26:30 -0800 > Keith Lofstrom dijo: > >>Perhaps I can help teach some scripting, and learn some GUI hacking >>from others.  The real value of open source systems is that they >>empower us to create, not just consume

[PLUG] Small script webapps

2009-12-12 Thread Keith Lofstrom
> On Sat, 12 Dec 2009, Keith Lofstrom wrote: ... > >Many PLUG members seem to spend most of their time in GUI-land. > >Which is good, if all the visual metaphors are consistent and the > >right tools are available. But it is much harder to automate > >small hacks that way - you become dependent o

Re: [PLUG] How many of us write small scripts?

2009-12-12 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sat, 12 Dec 2009, John Jason Jordan wrote: > Having said that, maybe it would be possible to do a web-based class. A GUI-based approach to writing shell scripts. Isn't that oxymoronic? :-) Rich ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http:

Re: [PLUG] How many of us write small scripts?

2009-12-12 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sat, 12 Dec 2009, Keith Lofstrom wrote: > Many PLUG members seem to spend most of their time in GUI-land. I'm partial to the CLI. > So, I'm curious ... how many of us know enough to write quick shell > scripts? 1 here. > How many of us know how to write quick 5 minute GUI hacks? 0

Re: [PLUG] dirvish

2009-12-12 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sat, 12 Dec 2009, Keith Lofstrom wrote: > Go to http://www.dirvish.org/mailman/listinfo/dirvish and sign up for the > mailing list. Or just look at the list archive, which you can search > using google "site:www.dirvish.org/pipermail your_query" Keith, I was about to do this. > Some of us

Re: [PLUG] How many of us write small scripts?

2009-12-12 Thread Mike Connors
Keith Lofstrom wrote: > So, I'm curious ... how many of us know enough to write quick shell > scripts? How many of us know how to write quick 5 minute GUI hacks? > I can do simple things in BASH (pipelining commands) and I understand conditional logic such as for while next if. I've attempte

Re: [PLUG] How many of us write small scripts?

2009-12-12 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 13:26:30 -0800 Keith Lofstrom dijo: >Perhaps I can help teach some scripting, and learn some GUI hacking >from others. The real value of open source systems is that they >empower us to create, not just consume. I would like to know about basic shell scripting. At the moment

Re: [PLUG] How many of us write small scripts?

2009-12-12 Thread Larry Brigman
On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Keith Lofstrom wrote: > > Many PLUG members seem to spend most of their time in GUI-land. > Which is good, if all the visual metaphors are consistent and the > right tools are available.   But it is much harder to automate > small hacks that way - you become d

Re: [PLUG] How many of us write small scripts?

2009-12-12 Thread Carlos Konstanski
On Sat, 12 Dec 2009, Keith Lofstrom wrote: > Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 13:26:30 -0800 > From: Keith Lofstrom > Reply-To: kei...@keithl.com, > "General Linux/UNIX discussion and help; civil and on-topic" > > To: PLUG > Subject: [PLUG] How many of us write small scripts? > > The most signi

[PLUG] How many of us write small scripts?

2009-12-12 Thread Keith Lofstrom
The most significant attraction of Linux/Unix for me is how easy it is to do "cheap programming" - shell scripts, perl scripts, etc. I am a mediocre programmer, but with Linux and a little bit of knowledge I am able to automate many small tasks. This usually means that I forget how to run some com

[PLUG] dirvish

2009-12-12 Thread Keith Lofstrom
Rich and others interested in dirvish: Go to http://www.dirvish.org/mailman/listinfo/dirvish and sign up for the mailing list. Or just look at the list archive, which you can search using google "site:www.dirvish.org/pipermail your_query" It is a low volume list, a couple dozen emails a month, a

Re: [PLUG] gnome window content display problems, Intel video on DellD620, Karmic upgrade

2009-12-12 Thread Joe Shisei Niski
On 12/11/2009 05:07 PM, Scott Garman wrote: > Joe Shisei Niski wrote: > >> ** >> >> i upgraded my Dell D620 (work) laptop Jaunty from to Karmic (32-bit). >> >> Video hardware according to lspci is: Intel Corporation Mobile

Re: [PLUG] Initializing Dirvish

2009-12-12 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009, Dale Snell wrote: > You're missing the first two lines, and it looks like line three got > truncated: > > #!/usr/bin/perl > > $CONFDIR = "/etc/dirvish"; Dale, Isn't this interesting? This is from the tarball (or ZIP file) downloaded from the Web site. All I did was copy i

Re: [PLUG] tracking/accounting for memory use

2009-12-12 Thread Russell Senior
> "Tim" == Tim Wescott writes: Tim> This isn't what you want to hear, but I would be concerned about Tim> an 18/14 difference between life and death. Are you sure that Tim> your problem isn't heap fragmentation, instead of lack of raw Tim> memory? The kernel allocates things in blocks (slab