Re: [PLUG] Natty is here

2011-05-02 Thread Mike Connors
> Fedora (the most-used *ix at my workplace) user experience seems to have > improved a great deal since i last tried using it almost five years ago, > and would probably be my next choice. I've wanted to like and use Fedora many times. But I'm I have an unfavorable opinion of RPM based distros. I

Re: [PLUG] Natty is here

2011-05-02 Thread Mike Connors
Oh, it might help if I provided the link to the article... http://m.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/shuttleworth-on-ubuntu-1104-linux-unity/8780 On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 9:12 PM, Mike Connors wrote: > If there's any truth to what's in this article than Unity and Linux > consumer-oriented desktop is the

Re: [PLUG] Natty is here

2011-05-02 Thread Mike Connors
If there's any truth to what's in this article than Unity and Linux consumer-oriented desktop is the direction Shuttleworth plans to take Ubuntu. => Shuttleworth opened by saying that the main point of Ubuntu 11.04 with Unity was “to bring the joys and freedoms and innovation and performance and s

Re: [PLUG] Natty is here

2011-05-02 Thread Joe Shisei Niski
On 05/02/2011 07:28 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote: > Quantify and compare the results. Send a copy to Shuttleworth. thanks, John and Mike, for keeping a positive tone. i usually wait at least a month before installing the latest Ubuntu release, but this time around i'm sticking with 10.10 because

Re: [PLUG] Natty is here

2011-05-02 Thread Mike Connors
> Give half of them Natty and half of them Maverick. Make each user work > alone at home so none sees what any of the others are doing. Give them > specific user type tasks, such as "write a letter to a potential > employer," "write a term paper for school," "find the meanings of terms > on wikiped

Re: [PLUG] Natty is here

2011-05-02 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Mon, 02 May 2011 17:36:53 -0700 Word Wizard dijo: >Either the OS is designed for newcomers or Linux or veteran users. So you conclude that a distro can't meet the needs of more than one of these groups? >Right now Natty seems totally hostile to the former while a pain in >the backside from

Re: [PLUG] Natty is here

2011-05-02 Thread Word Wizard
Therein lies the rub. Either the OS is designed for newcomers or Linux or veteran users. Right now Natty seems totally hostile to the former while a pain in the backside from at least some veteran users. I'm no MS/CS sys-admin but I'm not a Linux or Ubuntu newbie either. I love the ease of inst

Re: [PLUG] Natty issues

2011-05-02 Thread Mike Connors
> I run Maverick (Ubuntu 10.10) w/Gnome and the Avant panel. It is > absolutely perfect in every aspect, so far superior to Windows I would > not run W7 even if it were free.  I use some KDE apps like the K3B > burner and I even ran the pre-release Gnome3/Gnome shell with not one > problem. Fast, t

Re: [PLUG] Natty is here

2011-05-02 Thread Mike Connors
> I just got back from Linuxfest NorthWest and I spoke with quite a few people > about this. Almost all of them dislike Unity.  It is about the same as when > KDE went from 3 to 4... everyone hated it, but now that it has matured a > bit, it is an excellent desktop.  The little bit of playing I did

Re: [PLUG] Natty is here

2011-05-02 Thread Mike Connors
. An in-depth study of the reactions and problems > of new desktop users, comparing Unity, Gnome, KDE, and a few others, > would be very revealing. > > I won't speculate as to the outcome. I only wish to point out that > without some scientific evidence, everything that people say pro and > con Uni

Re: [PLUG] Natty issues

2011-05-02 Thread Word Wizard
I run Maverick (Ubuntu 10.10) w/Gnome and the Avant panel. It is absolutely perfect in every aspect, so far superior to Windows I would not run W7 even if it were free. I use some KDE apps like the K3B burner and I even ran the pre-release Gnome3/Gnome shell with not one problem. Fast, totally

Re: [PLUG] question on NAND solid state drives lifetime

2011-05-02 Thread Dan Young
On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 8:01 PM, website reader wrote: > The newer drives (particularly Intel and OCZ) look very promising... but ??? No personal experience yet, but thought this was interesting: http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2011/05/the-hot-crazy-solid-state-drive-scale.html -- Dan Young __

Re: [PLUG] Natty issues

2011-05-02 Thread Marvin Kosmal
On 5/2/11, Word Wizard wrote: > The installer had the correct resolution, possibly because I edited the > boot-loader menu with the vga=795 command line addition. However, the > installation came up 640x480 with 320x240 as the only option, > regardless of any command line edits. I managed to do

Re: [PLUG] Natty issues

2011-05-02 Thread Word Wizard
The installer had the correct resolution, possibly because I edited the boot-loader menu with the vga=795 command line addition. However, the installation came up 640x480 with 320x240 as the only option, regardless of any command line edits. I managed to download and install the latest NVidi

Re: [PLUG] Natty is here

2011-05-02 Thread Jason Barnett
I just got back from Linuxfest NorthWest and I spoke with quite a few people about this. Almost all of them dislike Unity. It is about the same as when KDE went from 3 to 4... everyone hated it, but now that it has matured a bit, it is an excellent desktop. The little bit of playing I did with Un

Re: [PLUG] Natty issues

2011-05-02 Thread Jason Barnett
I have been using Kubuntu 11.04 since Alpha 2 and have had almost no problems at all. Are you saying that the installer is at 640x480 with Nvidia or is that after the install is done and you boot into it for the first time? I'll give it a go on my system and see what happens. If it is at the fir