Re: [PLUG] Google going Evil

2013-07-30 Thread Paul Heinlein
On Tue, 30 Jul 2013, Michael Rasmussen wrote: Yes, capital E Evil In a dramatic about-face on a key internet issue yesterday, Google told the FCC that the network neutrality rules Google once championed don’t give citizens the right to run servers on their home broadband connections, and

Re: [PLUG] Google going Evil

2013-07-30 Thread Rich Shepard
On Tue, 30 Jul 2013, Michael Rasmussen wrote: In a dramatic about-face on a key internet issue yesterday, Google told the FCC that the network neutrality rules Google once championed don’t give citizens the right to run servers on their home broadband connections, and that the Google

Re: [PLUG] Google going Evil

2013-07-30 Thread C W
Agreed. We just switched to Frontier Fios here near Seattle. They're not perfect, but they are a lot smaller than comcast. On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 3:56 PM, Rich Shepard rshep...@appl-ecosys.comwrote: On Tue, 30 Jul 2013, Michael Rasmussen wrote: In a dramatic about-face on a key internet

Re: [PLUG] Google going Evil

2013-07-30 Thread Guy Letourneau
I've enjoyed opusnet.com; they are Linux-frindly (or at least platform transparent) and they have a physical office in Portland, so if anything extreme happens, a face-time meeting with real people, or an in-person demo of hardware gone wrong is at least a possibility. And their rates are

[PLUG] Yum is immortal

2013-07-30 Thread John Jason Jordan
This evening I was trying to install a program from source. Yeah, I should know better. But I have what appear to be superb detailed instructions. Except that the instructions are for Ubuntu so they are full of apt-get commands, but generally all I have to do is replace apt-get with yum. There

Re: [PLUG] Yum is immortal

2013-07-30 Thread Patrick J. Timlick
sudo kill -9 20774 The dash 9 causes a sure kill. Next time kill interactive processes with control c. Control z suspends the process, and returns control to the command line. Hope this helps -- Patrick Timlick On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 9:32 PM, John Jason Jordan joh...@comcast.netwrote:

Re: [PLUG] Yum is immortal

2013-07-30 Thread Jason LaPier
kill -9 20774 http://www.monzy.com/intro/killdashnine_lyrics.html On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 9:32 PM, John Jason Jordan joh...@comcast.netwrote: This evening I was trying to install a program from source. Yeah, I should know better. But I have what appear to be superb detailed instructions.

Re: [PLUG] Yum is immortal

2013-07-30 Thread wes
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 9:32 PM, John Jason Jordan joh...@comcast.netwrote: This evening I was trying to install a program from source. Yeah, I should know better. But I have what appear to be superb detailed instructions. Except that the instructions are for Ubuntu so they are full of

Re: [PLUG] Yum is immortal

2013-07-30 Thread Dale Snell
On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 21:32:56 -0700 John Jason Jordan joh...@comcast.net wrote: This evening I was trying to install a program from source. Yeah, I should know better. But I have what appear to be superb detailed instructions. Except that the instructions are for Ubuntu so they are full of

Re: [PLUG] Yum is immortal

2013-07-30 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 21:58:13 -0700 Dale Snell ddsn...@frontier.com dijo: sudo yum install qt4-dev-tools libqt4-opengl-dev libqtwebkit-dev If you're using yum, I assume *cough*cough* that you're using a Red Hat/Fedora based system of some sort. In that case, the development packages are labeled