Re: [PLUG] Status Report - was [ Specifying a minimalist/instuctional/??? Linux install]

2014-12-14 Thread Richard Owlett
Thank you to those offering me ways to get install media for a pre-stable Debian Jessie. I had already made the decision to obtain a release only after it has become stable and then purchase a _complete_ set of DVDs. I have complete sets of both Squeeze and Wheezy. Squeeze is a better math for

Re: [PLUG] Status Report - was [ Specifying a minimalist/instuctional/??? Linux install]

2014-12-13 Thread Louis Kowolowski
On Dec 12, 2014, at 5:40 PM, Rich Shepard rshep...@appl-ecosys.com wrote: On Fri, 12 Dec 2014, Louis Kowolowski wrote: For the cost of 3 DVDs, somebody is likely to be willing to download and burn them for you. Just have to coordinate meeting at PLUG for the handoff. Louis, He

[PLUG] Status Report - was [ Specifying a minimalist/instuctional/??? Linux install]

2014-12-13 Thread Robert Citek
On Saturday, December 13, 2014, Louis Kowolowski lou...@cryptomonkeys.org javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','lou...@cryptomonkeys.org'); wrote: Point being, there are lots of helpful people around and this isn’t a difficult problem to solve. I am still unclear on exactly what this problem is. Is

Re: [PLUG] Status Report - was [ Specifying a minimalist/instuctional/??? Linux install]

2014-12-13 Thread Russell Senior
Robert == Robert Citek robert.ci...@gmail.com writes: Robert I am still unclear on exactly what this problem is. Robert Is it wanting to install Debian on a local system? Is it Robert wanting to create a customize Debian, i.e. your own distro? Is Robert it wanting to get familiar with using

Re: [PLUG] Status Report - was [ Specifying a minimalist/instuctional/??? Linux install]

2014-12-13 Thread Nat Taylor
sure, I'd do it, or you could get someone from fiverr.com to do it, dl and burn the results of http://cgi.build.live-systems.org/cgi-bin/live-build that he set up... On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Russell Senior russ...@personaltelco.net wrote: Robert == Robert Citek robert.ci...@gmail.com

Re: [PLUG] Status Report - was [ Specifying a minimalist/instuctional/??? Linux install]

2014-12-12 Thread Richard Owlett
Nat Taylor wrote: Part of me cringes when you discuss intentionally installing old stable instead of current stable, just for future security/upgrade purposes. That was not my reason. I'm on dialup there fore I install *ONLY* from complete physical sets of DVDs (why I choose that solution

Re: [PLUG] Status Report - was [ Specifying a minimalist/instuctional/??? Linux install]

2014-12-12 Thread Richard Owlett
Louis Kowolowski wrote: Not to mention from an operational perspective, basing your work on something that is already obsolete means you will either: a) make more work for yourself by forcing yourself to do things multiple times just to get up to a modern system Unless Jessie+1 breaks

Re: [PLUG] Status Report - was [ Specifying a minimalist/instuctional/??? Linux install]

2014-12-12 Thread Louis Kowolowski
On Dec 12, 2014, at 1:13 AM, Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote: ... I’d suggest working off jessie. You will have the biggest bang for buck on work spent vs. longevity of work, and that will give you more time plan for future changes as they come down the pipe. Jessie is

Re: [PLUG] Status Report - was [ Specifying a minimalist/instuctional/??? Linux install]

2014-12-12 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 12 Dec 2014, Louis Kowolowski wrote: For the cost of 3 DVDs, somebody is likely to be willing to download and burn them for you. Just have to coordinate meeting at PLUG for the handoff. Louis, He lives in SW Missouri. :-) But, someone can pay the $1 or so postage and mail the

[PLUG] Status Report - was [ Specifying a minimalist/instuctional/??? Linux install]

2014-12-11 Thread Richard Owlett
Thank you for the many comments. Several got me thinking. I now have a better idea of how/why I got to where I am. In summary: I am trying to move away from Windows (and similarly Canonical) - the vendor knows best syndrome which yields excess baggage installed by default and

Re: [PLUG] Status Report - was [ Specifying a minimalist/instuctional/??? Linux install]

2014-12-11 Thread Nat Taylor
Part of me cringes when you discuss intentionally installing old stable instead of current stable, just for future security/upgrade purposes. Will the group applying security fixes do it forever? (Long Term Support until 2016-02-?[193] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian#cite_note-195 ) If you

Re: [PLUG] Status Report - was [ Specifying a minimalist/instuctional/??? Linux install]

2014-12-11 Thread Louis Kowolowski
Not to mention from an operational perspective, basing your work on something that is already obsolete means you will either: a) make more work for yourself by forcing yourself to do things multiple times just to get up to a modern system b) never update because its forever “too much work” I’d