Re: [PLUG] TUESDAY: October PLUG Advanced Topics: Living Desktop Environment-Free

2014-10-25 Thread Wayne E. Van Loon Sr.
I like Microsoft elete. They cost about $35. Wayne On 10/25/2014 12:02 PM, Bill Kielhorn wrote: > That was a very interesting and informative talk. Thank you, Leander! > > Are there any opinions about the best physical keyboards for > keyboard-centric work? > _

[PLUG] TUESDAY: October PLUG Advanced Topics: Living Desktop Environment-Free

2014-10-25 Thread Bill Kielhorn
That was a very interesting and informative talk. Thank you, Leander! Are there any opinions about the best physical keyboards for keyboard-centric work? ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug

Re: [PLUG] TUESDAY: October PLUG Advanced Topics: Living Desktop Environment-Free

2014-10-22 Thread Leander S. Harding
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Larry Brigman wrote: > In the presentation, there is a link for history via a shell script. In > looking at that shell script it has > a command that I don't know what it does - vmenu. > I can guess but is it another script or a binary program that is specific > t

Re: [PLUG] TUESDAY: October PLUG Advanced Topics: Living Desktop Environment-Free

2014-10-22 Thread Jeff Maher
Yes, Michael. I agree wow! So many things to ponder, shortcuts, and scripts to think about. Regards, Jeff Maher On 10/21/14 20:33, Michael Dexter wrote: > On 10/21/14 6:08 PM, Leander S. Harding wrote: >> I've just posted the slides for tonight's talk on my website at >> http://lsh.io/plugt

Re: [PLUG] TUESDAY: October PLUG Advanced Topics: Living Desktop Environment-Free

2014-10-22 Thread Larry Brigman
In the presentation, there is a link for history via a shell script. In looking at that shell script it has a command that I don't know what it does - vmenu. I can guess but is it another script or a binary program that is specific to arch Linux? On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Dick Steffens w

Re: [PLUG] TUESDAY: October PLUG Advanced Topics: Living Desktop Environment-Free

2014-10-22 Thread Dick Steffens
On 10/22/2014 07:45 AM, Ronald Bynoe wrote: > Oh, I should have realized this. The talk was about simplification of your > computing workflow, right? So this isn't a mousing interface presentation. > Press the right and left arrow keys to navigate on a PC! Ah. I didn't know about that one. That's

Re: [PLUG] TUESDAY: October PLUG Advanced Topics: Living Desktop Environment-Free

2014-10-22 Thread Mark Phillips
I looked at it last night, and all I did was use the page-down and page-up keys. I was using Firefox, and it also works on Chrome. Mark On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 6:42 AM, Ronald Bynoe wrote: > Hrm, I actually haven't tried the slides on a desktop. I imagine click and > drag like you would when pa

Re: [PLUG] TUESDAY: October PLUG Advanced Topics: Living Desktop Environment-Free

2014-10-22 Thread Rich Shepard
On Wed, 22 Oct 2014, Ronald Bynoe wrote: > Oh, I should have realized this. The talk was about simplification of your > computing workflow, right? So this isn't a mousing interface presentation. > Press the right and left arrow keys to navigate on a PC! Ronald, I, too, should have realized th

Re: [PLUG] TUESDAY: October PLUG Advanced Topics: Living Desktop Environment-Free

2014-10-22 Thread Ronald Bynoe
Oh, I should have realized this. The talk was about simplification of your computing workflow, right? So this isn't a mousing interface presentation. Press the right and left arrow keys to navigate on a PC! Also, I wasn't able to make it last night, but I wish I had, DE topics are very interesting

Re: [PLUG] TUESDAY: October PLUG Advanced Topics: Living Desktop Environment-Free

2014-10-22 Thread Rich Shepard
On Wed, 22 Oct 2014, Dick Steffens wrote: > Save the following in a .html file, open it in a browser, then click on a > slide link. Each slide will open in a new tab. Hm-m-m-m. OK. Using the beamer class in LaTeX produces very nice PDF files that are viewable on any platform from a single file

Re: [PLUG] TUESDAY: October PLUG Advanced Topics: Living Desktop Environment-Free

2014-10-22 Thread Rich Shepard
On Wed, 22 Oct 2014, Ronald Bynoe wrote: > Hrm, I actually haven't tried the slides on a desktop. I imagine click and > drag like you would when panning a large image? That only highlights some of the text. Rich ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxl

Re: [PLUG] TUESDAY: October PLUG Advanced Topics: Living Desktop Environment-Free

2014-10-22 Thread Dick Steffens
On 10/22/2014 06:31 AM, Rich Shepard wrote: > On Wed, 22 Oct 2014, Ronald Bynoe wrote: > >> Swipe right > Oh? How does one do that with a trackball? My LCD monitor is not a touch > screen. Save the following in a .html file, open it in a browser, then click on a slide link. Each slide will op

Re: [PLUG] TUESDAY: October PLUG Advanced Topics: Living Desktop Environment-Free

2014-10-22 Thread Ronald Bynoe
Hrm, I actually haven't tried the slides on a desktop. I imagine click and drag like you would when panning a large image? On Oct 22, 2014 6:31 AM, "Rich Shepard" wrote: > On Wed, 22 Oct 2014, Ronald Bynoe wrote: > > > Swipe right > >Oh? How does one do that with a trackball? My LCD monitor i

Re: [PLUG] TUESDAY: October PLUG Advanced Topics: Living Desktop Environment-Free

2014-10-22 Thread Rich Shepard
On Wed, 22 Oct 2014, Ronald Bynoe wrote: > Swipe right Oh? How does one do that with a trackball? My LCD monitor is not a touch screen. Rich ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug

Re: [PLUG] TUESDAY: October PLUG Advanced Topics: Living Desktop Environment-Free

2014-10-22 Thread Ronald Bynoe
Swipe right On Oct 22, 2014 6:21 AM, "Rich Shepard" wrote: > On Tue, 21 Oct 2014, Leander S. Harding wrote: > > > I've just posted the slides for tonight's talk on my website at > > http://lsh.io/plugtalk for those who can't make it or want to follow > > along on their own machines. > > Leander,

Re: [PLUG] TUESDAY: October PLUG Advanced Topics: Living Desktop Environment-Free

2014-10-22 Thread Rich Shepard
On Tue, 21 Oct 2014, Leander S. Harding wrote: > I've just posted the slides for tonight's talk on my website at > http://lsh.io/plugtalk for those who can't make it or want to follow > along on their own machines. Leander, Nice first slide; no links to view any others (on firefox). Rich ___

Re: [PLUG] TUESDAY: October PLUG Advanced Topics: Living Desktop Environment-Free

2014-10-21 Thread Ken Stephens
Michael Dexter wrote: > On 10/21/14 6:08 PM, Leander S. Harding wrote: >> I've just posted the slides for tonight's talk on my website at >> http://lsh.io/plugtalk for those who can't make it or want to follow >> along on their own machines. > Mindblowing. > > Not for everyone but... wow. > > Mich

Re: [PLUG] TUESDAY: October PLUG Advanced Topics: Living Desktop Environment-Free

2014-10-21 Thread Michael Dexter
On 10/21/14 6:08 PM, Leander S. Harding wrote: > I've just posted the slides for tonight's talk on my website at > http://lsh.io/plugtalk for those who can't make it or want to follow > along on their own machines. Mindblowing. Not for everyone but... wow. Michael _

Re: [PLUG] TUESDAY: October PLUG Advanced Topics: Living Desktop Environment-Free

2014-10-21 Thread Leander S. Harding
I've just posted the slides for tonight's talk on my website at http://lsh.io/plugtalk for those who can't make it or want to follow along on their own machines. -Leander On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Leander S. Harding wrote: > Sort of? The slides are in HTML format and I've packed them with

Re: [PLUG] TUESDAY: October PLUG Advanced Topics: Living Desktop Environment-Free

2014-10-21 Thread Leander S. Harding
Sort of? The slides are in HTML format and I've packed them with links, so you'll be able to easily track down anything I talk about. Also remember the stream! -Leander On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 12:26 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: > Leander S. Harding wrote: >> On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 1:13 AM, Paul M

Re: [PLUG] TUESDAY: October PLUG Advanced Topics: Living Desktop Environment-Free

2014-10-21 Thread Richard Owlett
Leander S. Harding wrote: > On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 1:13 AM, Paul Mullen wrote: >> I strongly suspect that the speaker is going to demonstrate life >> without a desktop environment, such as Gnome, KDE, etc., and not life >> without any graphical user interface, at all. > > Yes, you've nailed it (s

Re: [PLUG] TUESDAY: October PLUG Advanced Topics: Living Desktop Environment-Free

2014-10-21 Thread Leander S. Harding
On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Michael Dexter wrote: > For what it's worth, I have been streaming and recording most > presentations ( http://pdxlinux.org/live ) but it generally does not > show the on-screen view very well. Which... might matter quite a bit for > this one. There will be a cou

Re: [PLUG] TUESDAY: October PLUG Advanced Topics: Living Desktop Environment-Free

2014-10-21 Thread Leander S. Harding
On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 1:13 AM, Paul Mullen wrote: > I strongly suspect that the speaker is going to demonstrate life > without a desktop environment, such as Gnome, KDE, etc., and not life > without any graphical user interface, at all. Yes, you've nailed it (source: I'm the speaker tonight). A

Re: [PLUG] TUESDAY: October PLUG Advanced Topics: Living Desktop Environment-Free

2014-10-21 Thread Michael Dexter
On 10/20/14 5:50 PM, Jon Drews wrote: > This sounds like a great presentation. Is there anyway there could be a > video of this for those of us who can't make it? For what it's worth, I have been streaming and recording most presentations ( http://pdxlinux.org/live ) but it generally does not sh

Re: [PLUG] TUESDAY: October PLUG Advanced Topics: Living Desktop Environment-Free

2014-10-21 Thread Paul Mullen
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 05:31:34PM -0700, John Jason Jordan wrote: > On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 10:05:43 -0700 > Michael Dexter dijo: > > >KDE, Unity, even XFCE, are massive, complex software environments that > >achieve simplicity of user experience through rigid adherence to a > >given paradigm - and

Re: [PLUG] TUESDAY: October PLUG Advanced Topics: Living Desktop Environment-Free

2014-10-20 Thread Dale Snell
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 17:31:34 -0700 John Jason Jordan wrote: > I can use a minimal desktop like Xfce, but I'm trying to imagine how I > could function without any desktop at all, even if I was a master at > shell scripts, which I most definitely am not. > I started my day by writing a couple page

Re: [PLUG] TUESDAY: October PLUG Advanced Topics: Living Desktop Environment-Free

2014-10-20 Thread Jon Drews
Folks: This sounds like a great presentation. Is there anyway there could be a video of this for those of us who can't make it? On Oct 20, 2014 10:06 AM, "Michael Dexter" wrote: > Portland Linux/Unix Group Advanced Topics Meeting Announcement > > Who: Leander Harding > What: Living Desktop Envir

Re: [PLUG] TUESDAY: October PLUG Advanced Topics: Living Desktop Environment-Free

2014-10-20 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 10:05:43 -0700 Michael Dexter dijo: >KDE, Unity, even XFCE, are massive, complex software environments that >achieve simplicity of user experience through rigid adherence to a >given paradigm - and once you can write a shell script, they do >remarkably little for you. We'll di

[PLUG] TUESDAY: October PLUG Advanced Topics: Living Desktop Environment-Free

2014-10-20 Thread Michael Dexter
Portland Linux/Unix Group Advanced Topics Meeting Announcement Who: Leander Harding What: Living Desktop Environment-Free Where: Free Geek, 1731 SE 10th Avenue, Portland (Left Entrance) When: Tuesday, October 21st, 2014 at 7pm Why: The pursuit of technology freedom Stream: http://pdxlinux.org/live