Re: [PLUG] UPS Advice needed

On Thu, 19 Mar 2009, John Jason Jordan wrote: > So the next part of the saga will continue in a week or so when it > arrives. Then I get to try to figure out how to get it to work with Linux. > But from what I've read, that should be pretty easy. Ri

Re: [PLUG] UPS Advice needed

On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 11:50:53 -0700 (PDT) Rich Shepard dijo: > On Tue, 17 Mar 2009, John Jason Jordan wrote: > > > I just spent a few minutes googling on refurbs and didn't find much price > > advantage. Where did you get yours? And are there any local stores that > > sell refurbs? > >I don'

Re: [PLUG] UPS Advice needed

chris (fool) mccraw wrote: > On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 17:05, m0gely wrote: > >> I suppose so if you get to the internet from the power lines. Phone and >> cable TV lines can be unaffected in a power outage. > > really? cable lines don't need power? there isn't some aggregator > box on your bloc

Re: [PLUG] UPS Advice needed

On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 17:05, m0gely wrote: > I suppose so if you get to the internet from the power lines. Phone and > cable TV lines can be unaffected in a power outage. really? cable lines don't need power? there isn't some aggregator box on your block that pulls from the mains? not accus

Re: [PLUG] UPS Advice needed

chris (fool) mccraw wrote: > hate to be pedantic, but if the area is without power for an extended > time, does that mean that the internet infrastructure won't be > running? I suppose so if you get to the internet from the power lines. Phone and cable TV lines can be unaffected in a power outag

Re: [PLUG] UPS Advice needed

> hate to be pedantic, but if the area is without power for an extended > time, does that mean that the internet infrastructure won't be > running? Maybe not, if you're using dial-up. :-) Note the power meters on the large (size of a refrigerator, or two) distribution boxes in your neighborhood.

Re: [PLUG] UPS Advice needed

On Tue, 17 Mar 2009, John Jason Jordan wrote: > I just spent a few minutes googling on refurbs and didn't find much price > advantage. Where did you get yours? And are there any local stores that > sell refurbs? I don't recall. It's been several years since I bought it. IIRC, I bought the 1400

Re: [PLUG] UPS Advice needed

On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 10:45:58 -0700 (PDT) Rich Shepard dijo: > On Tue, 17 Mar 2009, John Jason Jordan wrote: > > > Bottom line: What FOSS software do I need to run, and which UPSs are > > compatible with it? > >apcupsd and the APC units are top-notch. I bought a Smart-1400 > (refurbished) se

Re: [PLUG] UPS Advice needed

On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 10:57, Galen Seitz wrote: > chris (fool) mccraw wrote: >> we have a honking APC ups here at the office, like, fridge-sized, and >> the free software that exists for linux (apcupsd) is pretty flaky.  so >> much so that i have it running, but not doing anything except logging

Re: [PLUG] UPS Advice needed

On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 00:13:41 -0700 Eitan Tsur dijo: > what about running rv batteries with an inverter or dc-dc supplies? id > assume the hardest bit would be the switching circuit and charger. Actually I have a 5000 watt gas powered generator. It puts out enough to run the fridge, freezer, tele

Re: [PLUG] UPS Advice needed

chris (fool) mccraw wrote: > we have a honking APC ups here at the office, like, fridge-sized, and > the free software that exists for linux (apcupsd) is pretty flaky. so > much so that i have it running, but not doing anything except logging. > because it logs transient connection-to-the-ups fai

Re: [PLUG] UPS Advice needed

On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 10:48, chris (fool) mccraw wrote: > we have a honking APC ups here at the office, like, fridge-sized, and > the free software that exists for linux (apcupsd) is pretty flaky.  so > much so that i have it running, but not doing anything except logging. >  because it logs tr

Re: [PLUG] UPS Advice needed

On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 10:34, John Jason Jordan wrote: > And, as someone else noted, I > need to keep my router, switch and modem running too. hate to be pedantic, but if the area is without power for an extended time, does that mean that the internet infrastructure won't be running? guess it d

Re: [PLUG] UPS Advice needed

On Tue, 17 Mar 2009, John Jason Jordan wrote: > Bottom line: What FOSS software do I need to run, and which UPSs are > compatible with it? apcupsd and the APC units are top-notch. I bought a Smart-1400 (refurbished) several years ago that has served me very well. Check the refurbished prices a

Re: [PLUG] UPS Advice needed

John Jason Jordan wrote: > > I also didn't think about getting the computers to listen to it. More > good advice. > ___ I am running two 1000VA APC units (SmartUPS), they provide plenty of power for the four systems attached as well as the network i

Re: [PLUG] UPS Advice needed

what about running rv batteries with an inverter or dc-dc supplies? id assume the hardest bit would be the switching circuit and charger. On 3/17/09, Russell Senior wrote: >> "John" == John Jason Jordan writes: > > John> I'm thinking of 1500 VA, but I could be convinced to go > John> higher.

Re: [PLUG] UPS Advice needed

> "John" == John Jason Jordan writes: John> I'm thinking of 1500 VA, but I could be convinced to go John> higher. [...] My general philosophy on ups's is that 95% of power outages are very short, a few seconds. In most of the remaining cases, the outages are long enough that it will run thr

Re: [PLUG] UPS Advice needed

On Mar 16, 2009, at 9:59 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote: > On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 21:35:21 -0700 > m0gely dijo: >> 1500VA for one desktop and a laptop? Is there a reason you need >> such a >> long runtime? > Yes, in case the power goes out I can shut down the desktop and still > be able to work on the

Re: [PLUG] UPS Advice needed

On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 21:35:21 -0700 m0gely dijo: > 1500VA for one desktop and a laptop? Is there a reason you need such a > long runtime? Yes, in case the power goes out I can shut down the desktop and still be able to work on the laptop for a very long time. > You want to get a good surge prot

Re: [PLUG] UPS Advice needed

John Jason Jordan wrote: > So I have decided it's time to get a UPS. I have an old APC, but it has > sat unused for a number of years. It won't even take a charge. And it's > probably not worth fixing. I'd rather just get a new one. Most likely it's fine. The batteries only last a year or two at

[PLUG] UPS Advice needed

So now that I have my desktop computer set up as an audio center playing mp3s and streaming radio stations to the stereo, everything is cool in JJJ-land. Except that sometimes I come home and no tunes greet me as I come in the door. And when I look at the computer I realize it is no longer even run