Re: [plug] X programming in linux

2001-03-04 Thread Horatio B. Bogbindero
> Cool!! I definitely am for this! Who's gonna teach it and when will it be offered? > baka you will be one of the first students. elective yata next semester. then they will make it required. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > >hello men and women of the Philippine Linux Users Groups, > >

Re: [plug] X programming in linux

2001-03-03 Thread Brian Baquiran
- Original Message - From: "Horatio B. Bogbindero" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Philippine Linux Users Group" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 10:46 AM Subject: [plug] X programming in linux > however, to add spice to students li

Re: [plug] X programming in linux

2001-03-03 Thread dennison
Cool!! I definitely am for this! Who's gonna teach it and when will it be offered? dennison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >hello men and women of the Philippine Linux Users Groups, > >a while back there was a thread about programming. i even recall >some heated debates about kylix, gcc and what-no

Re: [plug] X programming in linux

2001-03-03 Thread Rafael R. Sevilla
On Sat, 3 Mar 2001, Horatio B. Bogbindero wrote: > > X/Motif Well, I've not had a lot of good experiences programming with this. Number one, it's not Free Software, not even Open Source by any definition, and Lesstif doesn't work as well as one hopes it would. Also, code for a non-trivial Mot

Re: [plug] X programming in linux

2001-03-02 Thread eric pareja
On Sat, 3 Mar 2001, Horatio B. Bogbindero wrote: > i already plan to add CVS since we do it here already. might as well teach > students to do it too. emacs vs. vi will be the students decision na lang. > i prefer using vi not for any particular reason except that it is small. though my preferen

Re: [plug] X programming in linux

2001-03-02 Thread eric pareja
On Sat, 3 Mar 2001, Orlando Andico wrote: > Tcl/Tk is fine because it's interpreted. But Tcl is an ugly language > (apologies to BrianB, I know you're a big Tcl/AOLserver fan..) But there's Perl/Tk, you Perl monger. ;) And if you're into Python, there are hooks to Tk for Python too. So I'd vote

Re: [plug] X programming in linux

2001-03-02 Thread Orlando Andico
On Sat, 3 Mar 2001, Horatio B. Bogbindero wrote: .. > > Motif is crappy and ancient. See how buggy Netscape 4 is? a lot of that > > has to do with Motif. Avoid like the plague. > > > is this because netscape uses lesstif and not the newly open sourced open > motif?? No, netscape uses motif stati

Re: [plug] X programming in linux

2001-03-02 Thread Orlando Andico
On Sat, 3 Mar 2001, Horatio B. Bogbindero wrote: .. > i already plan to add CVS since we do it here already. might as well teach > students to do it too. emacs vs. vi will be the students decision na lang. > i prefer using vi not for any particular reason except that it is small. i suggest a look

Re: [plug] X programming in linux

2001-03-02 Thread Orlando Andico
On Sat, 3 Mar 2001, Brian Baquiran wrote: .. > > Tcl/Tk is fine because it's interpreted. But Tcl is an ugly language > > That's coming from someone who likes Perl? ;-) Contrary to popular belief, Perl is beautiful. :) I know some of its features (like the object orientation) are a bolt-on, an

Re: [plug] X programming in linux

2001-03-02 Thread Horatio B. Bogbindero
> .. > > however, to add spice to students lives, we would like to include a GUI > > programming part. this is also make students "see" their applications. > > i have narrowed down some possible toolkits to use for this: > > > > X/Motif > > X/gtk > > tcl/tk > > Motif is crappy and ancient. See h

Re: [plug] X programming in linux

2001-03-02 Thread Horatio B. Bogbindero
> > > fortuntately, i am tasked to help design an systems programming course > > here at the ateneo. we have already gone through a lot of material on > > this and it would definitely be a Makefile/C/vi environment. > > I would add CVS, gdb and Emacs rather than vi as well. > i already plan to a

Re: [plug] X programming in linux

2001-03-02 Thread Brian Baquiran
- Original Message - From: "Orlando Andico" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Philippine Linux Users Group" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 11:46 AM Subject: Re: [plug] X programming in linux > On Sat, 3 Mar 2001, Horatio B. Bogbindero wrote

Re: [plug] X programming in linux

2001-03-02 Thread Orlando Andico
On Sat, 3 Mar 2001, Horatio B. Bogbindero wrote: .. > however, to add spice to students lives, we would like to include a GUI > programming part. this is also make students "see" their applications. > i have narrowed down some possible toolkits to use for this: > > X/Motif > X/gtk > tcl/tk Motif

Re: [plug] X programming in linux

2001-03-02 Thread Brian Baquiran
- Original Message - From: "Horatio B. Bogbindero" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Philippine Linux Users Group" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 10:46 AM Subject: [plug] X programming in linux > fortuntately, i am tasked to help design an s

Re: [plug] X programming in linux

2001-03-02 Thread Horatio B. Bogbindero
> Whichever you choose, I favor keeping it simple so that the CS folks would > focus on the CS parts, and leave the UI to industrial designers. (Well of > course I'm biased, I prefer text mode on CRT's and run X on LCD's just to > have a decent text mode. :P ) > of course, it will still be simp

Re: [plug] X programming in linux

2001-03-02 Thread Miguel A.L. Paraz
Whichever you choose, I favor keeping it simple so that the CS folks would focus on the CS parts, and leave the UI to industrial designers. (Well of course I'm biased, I prefer text mode on CRT's and run X on LCD's just to have a decent text mode. :P ) On Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 10:46:28AM +0800,

[plug] X programming in linux

2001-03-02 Thread Horatio B. Bogbindero
hello men and women of the Philippine Linux Users Groups, a while back there was a thread about programming. i even recall some heated debates about kylix, gcc and what-not. unfortunately or fortuntately, i am tasked to help design an systems programming course here at the ateneo. we have alrea