Re: [PLUG] Parts shopping for new desktop

2018-02-06 Thread Russell Senior
Or mount it on an old record player. On 33 rpm, you'll get a chance every couple seconds! ;-) On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 10:53 PM, Tomas Kuchta wrote: > I love your suggestion Dennis, priceless! > > > > On Feb 6, 2018 9:26 PM, "Denis Heidtmann" wrote: > >> My previous desktop did not have front USB

Re: [PLUG] Parts shopping for new desktop

2018-02-06 Thread Tomas Kuchta
I love your suggestion Dennis, priceless! On Feb 6, 2018 9:26 PM, "Denis Heidtmann" wrote: > My previous desktop did not have front USB, so I had a short extension > cable bringing USB to the front. Now that was 2.0, so I do not know if > something running at 10Gbps could tolerate such a solu

Re: [PLUG] bash; anacron; wmctrl question

2018-02-06 Thread Tomas Kuchta
echo $DISPLAY to find out what is your display number. There maybe more than one display, so you need to address/display on the right one. Check what you are actually using as per echo cmd above. -T On Feb 6, 2018 5:46 PM, "Denis Heidtmann" wrote: > I have presently export DISPLAY=:0. I do no

Re: [PLUG] Parts shopping for new desktop

2018-02-06 Thread Denis Heidtmann
My previous desktop did not have front USB, so I had a short extension cable bringing USB to the front. Now that was 2.0, so I do not know if something running at 10Gbps could tolerate such a solution, but I bet not. I believe the reason for SATA Express is that it can accommodate higher bandwidth

Re: [PLUG] Parts shopping for new desktop

2018-02-06 Thread Bill Barry
On Feb 6, 2018 11:17 PM, "John Jason Jordan" wrote: On Tue, 6 Feb 2018 20:40:15 -0800 Denis Heidtmann dijo: >I did a brief search and found a prediction that the SATA Express "may >never catch on." That may be a true prediction, but at the moment a SATA Express port plus the device to mount in

Re: [PLUG] Parts shopping for new desktop

2018-02-06 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Tue, 6 Feb 2018 20:40:15 -0800 Denis Heidtmann dijo: >I did a brief search and found a prediction that the SATA Express "may >never catch on." That may be a true prediction, but at the moment a SATA Express port plus the device to mount in the front panel is the only way I can find to get USB

Re: [PLUG] Parts shopping for new desktop

2018-02-06 Thread Pete Lancashire
I am also looking, 2-3 even 4 yr old design would do it for me, although a 4X display is very tempting since I use my computer as a TV On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 8:59 PM, Russell Senior wrote: > I was just doing an installation on a 10 year old computer. One solution is > being less bleeding edge.

Re: [PLUG] Parts shopping for new desktop

2018-02-06 Thread Russell Senior
I was just doing an installation on a 10 year old computer. One solution is being less bleeding edge. :-) On Feb 6, 2018 8:40 PM, "Denis Heidtmann" wrote: > I did a brief search and found a prediction that the SATA Express "may > never catch on." > > -Denis > > On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 8:29 PM, Jo

Re: [PLUG] Parts shopping for new desktop

2018-02-06 Thread Denis Heidtmann
I did a brief search and found a prediction that the SATA Express "may never catch on." -Denis On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 8:29 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote: > For CPU I have settled on Intel i7 6700 or maybe 7700. The problems is > the motherboard because I insist on a USB 3.1 Gen. 2 port on the fro

[PLUG] Parts shopping for new desktop

2018-02-06 Thread John Jason Jordan
For CPU I have settled on Intel i7 6700 or maybe 7700. The problems is the motherboard because I insist on a USB 3.1 Gen. 2 port on the front of the case, and that means an adapter like the following: https://tinyurl.com/ycbkjf55 Unfortunately, that adapter requires a SATA Express connect

Re: [PLUG] bash; anacron; wmctrl question

2018-02-06 Thread Denis Heidtmann
I have presently export DISPLAY=:0. I do not know what the : means, and why would you choose 1 rather than zero? Note that presently the window does appear, but the command wmctrl -k does not seem to do anything. I will be giving anacron an opportunity tomorrow with Wes' suggestion added. -Deni

Re: [PLUG] bash; anacron; wmctrl question

2018-02-06 Thread Denis Heidtmann
On the $DISPLAY variable, I thought that is what export DISPLAY=:0 was supposed to do. It must be doing something, since the zenity window does appear on my desktop. It is just that the wmctrl -k does not seem to work. I will be trying Wes' suggestion tomorrow when anacron gets another shot at

Re: [PLUG] bash; anacron; wmctrl question

2018-02-06 Thread wes
yup. -wes On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 2:22 PM, Denis Heidtmann wrote: > You mean sudo -u household wmctrl...? > > -Denis > > On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 1:39 PM, wes wrote: > > > try sudo wmctrl, the same way you're doing sudo zenity. > > > > -wes > > > > On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 1:27 PM, Denis Heidtmann

Re: [PLUG] bash; anacron; wmctrl question

2018-02-06 Thread Denis Heidtmann
Where should I use the full path? Am I not using the full path? -Denis On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 1:45 PM, Ali Corbin wrote: > Another thing to try is to use the full path, in case the cron environment > doesn't include $PATH > > On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 1:39 PM, wes wrote: > > > try sudo wmctrl, t

Re: [PLUG] bash; anacron; wmctrl question

2018-02-06 Thread Denis Heidtmann
You mean sudo -u household wmctrl...? -Denis On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 1:39 PM, wes wrote: > try sudo wmctrl, the same way you're doing sudo zenity. > > -wes > > On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 1:27 PM, Denis Heidtmann > > wrote: > > > I have a script which runs daily via anacron. I want the script to >

Re: [PLUG] bash; anacron; wmctrl question

2018-02-06 Thread Tomas Kuchta
Thinking little more about it - you might be able to get around the access permissions - to display stuff on other user's screens by using xhost command as part of user's default environment setup at login. That however is breaking the security - you can imagine how the desktop would look if rando

Re: [PLUG] bash; anacron; wmctrl question

2018-02-06 Thread Tomas Kuchta
I do not believe that you will be able to open graphical window using cron. The best you can hope for is sending notifications or emails. If you have the strength to continue with random experiments. Try: export DISPLAY :1 In your script before launching the window. Although that will likely be bl

Re: [PLUG] bash; anacron; wmctrl question

2018-02-06 Thread John Meissen
denis.heidtm...@gmail.com said: > What is different about the anacron launch? 1) check log files. Enable logging and check log files. Save script output. 2) Pobably the fact that the shell process executing the script doesn't have a $DISPLAY environment variable defined... Where would you expec

Re: [PLUG] bash; anacron; wmctrl question

2018-02-06 Thread Ali Corbin
Another thing to try is to use the full path, in case the cron environment doesn't include $PATH On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 1:39 PM, wes wrote: > try sudo wmctrl, the same way you're doing sudo zenity. > > -wes > > On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 1:27 PM, Denis Heidtmann > > wrote: > > > I have a script whi

Re: [PLUG] bash; anacron; wmctrl question

2018-02-06 Thread wes
try sudo wmctrl, the same way you're doing sudo zenity. -wes On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 1:27 PM, Denis Heidtmann wrote: > I have a script which runs daily via anacron. I want the script to launch > a zenity window to notify the user, so I issue the command wmctrl -k on > before zenity and wmctrl -

[PLUG] bash; anacron; wmctrl question

2018-02-06 Thread Denis Heidtmann
I have a script which runs daily via anacron. I want the script to launch a zenity window to notify the user, so I issue the command wmctrl -k on before zenity and wmctrl - off after. This is supposed to minimize all open windows to ensure that the zenity window will be visible. I have a test

Re: [PLUG] Apology appropriate?

2018-02-06 Thread Richard Owlett
On 02/05/2018 02:29 PM, Mke C> wrote: On 02/05/2018 12:00 PM, plug-requ...@pdxlinux.org wrote: When helping people is considered offensive, I don?t think I want to be part of the group any more. I feel like an owe Richard an apology for my snarky, unhelpful and ultimately troublesome comments