[PLUG] PLUG Constituent Poll 2021

Hello all, I hope you're all doing great. The "this should be all behind us in three or so months" pandemic has certainly gone on a wee longer than expected. This has obviously meant a hard stop to in-person PLUG meetings with only the vaguest idea of when in-person events will return as sch

[PLUG] Columbus and paper tape

On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 04:08:14AM -0700, Keith Lofstrom wrote: > 20 meters on a side, weigh more than 10,000 metric tonnes, > and take 530 years to read. 530 years ... if Columbus hadn't destroyed the paper tape reader he discovered when he landed on Cuba in 1492, and turned it on instead, it m

Re: [PLUG] PLUG Constituent Poll 2021

On Wed, 22 Sep 2021, Michael Dexter wrote: Is this a mirror on the broader situation, or is this not what you want from PLUG? Michael, I'm not a computer professional or work in a business where computers are the end. For my business they are a means to an end, a critical tool. In the late 1

Re: [PLUG] PLUG Constituent Poll 2021

On 9/22/21 6:48 AM, Ben Koenig wrote: Building on what Rich mentioned, I'd like to see the PLUG Clinic expand into the online space. The deep dive presentations are great but sometimes you want to focus down a single technical issue. Email isnt always the most effective way to troubleshoot a

[PLUG] Mailing List Archives Search Engine

Hello everyone, May anyone please lead me in making a small search engine for this mailing list's archives and another one? All it needs to do is return the links that contains the words you put in regardless of space, order, location, or capitalization. The words also don't have to be all in there

Re: [PLUG] Terabyte paper tape

Hello, Reading all of this is really so interesting to me! I was born in 1998 and I feel like I've missed out on so much! My first computer was an Intel Pentium 4 with 256MB RAM and 40GB HDD. Hopefully I'll get to at least tinker with some of the old tech! Regards, Atharva Lele On Tue, Sep 21,

Re: [PLUG] PLUG Constituent Poll 2021

On 9/22/21 5:52 AM, Rich Shepard wrote: In the late 1990s and early 2000s I attended PLUG meetings in the PSU Library and the clinics at the schools. Both were where I learned a lot about linux. Now the meetings are computer-specific and highly technical. I cannot benefit from that information s

Re: [PLUG] Mailing List Archives Search Engine

As much as I hate to suggest Google, it will do what you are asking. Just go to google and in the search bar prefix with "site:" followed by the website, in this case the pdx mailing list, then the search criteria. "site:http://lists.pdxlinux.org/pipermail/plug/ programming FORTRAN

Re: [PLUG] Mailing List Archives Search Engine

This sounds vaguely like a homework assignment. My advice would be to think about what information you'd need to have to be able to do the things you are describing, and then think about how to get that information. On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 8:25 AM Daniel Ortiz wrote: > > Hello everyone, > May an

Re: [PLUG] PLUG Constituent Poll 2021

Building on what Rich mentioned, I'd like to see the PLUG Clinic expand into the online space. The deep dive presentations are great but sometimes you want to focus down a single technical issue. Email isnt always the most effective way to troubleshoot a problem. -Ben Original Messag

Re: [PLUG] Columbus and paper tape

On Wed, 22 Sep 2021 00:42:28 -0700 Keith Lofstrom dijo: >On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 04:08:14AM -0700, Keith Lofstrom wrote: >> 20 meters on a side, weigh more than 10,000 metric tonnes, >> and take 530 years to read. > >530 years ... if Columbus hadn't destroyed the paper tape >reader he discovered

Re: [PLUG] PLUG Constituent Poll 2021

On Wed, 22 Sep 2021 09:46:56 -0700 Michael Dexter dijo: >On 9/22/21 5:52 AM, Rich Shepard wrote: >> In the late 1990s and early 2000s I attended PLUG meetings in the PSU >> Library and the clinics at the schools. Both were where I learned a >> lot about linux. >> >> Now the meetings are computer-

[PLUG] Audacity .aup3

Anybody using Audacity? I had to use a Win10 machine to do some recording this morning. When I got home I went to copy the .aup file and directory to my Xubuntu machine. What I found was there isn't a .aup file and folder, but instead a .aup3 file. I went back to the Win10 machine and tried to

Re: [PLUG] PLUG Constituent Poll 2021

On Wed, 22 Sep 2021, John Jason Jordan wrote: A virtual clinic is a possible alternative, but I can foresee some difficulties. For example, quite often at the clinics we have someone bring in a computer and want to install Linux on it. Usually the person has already tried and failed. Usually we

Re: [PLUG] PLUG Constituent Poll 2021

I think the primary obstacle to an in-person clinic right now is that FreeGeek is still mostly closed. At least, not hosting events, afaik. On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 2:38 PM John Jason Jordan wrote: > > On Wed, 22 Sep 2021 09:46:56 -0700 > Michael Dexter dijo: > > >On 9/22/21 5:52 AM, Rich Shepard

Re: [PLUG] PLUG Constituent Poll 2021

On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 2:46 PM Paul Heinlein wrote: > > On Wed, 22 Sep 2021, John Jason Jordan wrote: > > > A virtual clinic is a possible alternative, but I can foresee some > > difficulties. For example, quite often at the clinics we have someone > > bring in a computer and want to install Linu

Re: [PLUG] PLUG Constituent Poll 2021

+1 to this. If anyone knows of another potential venue, even temporarily until Free Geek is available again, please speak up. I know of places in Vancouver we could use, but I doubt that works for most people. -wes On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 2:47 PM Russell Senior wrote: > I think the primary obs

Re: [PLUG] Audacity .aup3

On 9/22/21 14:41, Dick Steffens wrote: > Anybody using Audacity? I had to use a Win10 machine to do some > recording this morning. When I got home I went to copy the .aup file and > directory to my Xubuntu machine. What I found was there isn't a .aup > file and folder, but instead a .aup3 file. I w

Re: [PLUG] Audacity .aup3

On 9/22/21 3:52 PM, King Beowulf wrote: On 9/22/21 14:41, Dick Steffens wrote: Anybody using Audacity? I had to use a Win10 machine to do some recording this morning. When I got home I went to copy the .aup file and directory to my Xubuntu machine. What I found was there isn't a .aup file and fo

Re: [PLUG] Terabyte paper tape

You did not miss much. The old tech sucked. I was (un) fortunate enough to experience it, both at home and work. About the only good thing about it was its simplicity and openness. Most of the ancient computers came with awesome manuals for both HW and SW. It was so easy to learn and understand.

Re: [PLUG] Terabyte paper tape

I remember that the first task in a new computer installation was to get the manuals set up. We often had 5-8 ft of Manuals that came with a system. So upboxing the manuals and setting them into binders was almost as big a task as getting the computer set up. They used to build reference manuals a

Re: [PLUG] PLUG Constituent Poll 2021

The use of online meetings for troubleshooting is not an either/or question. Some topics require in person assistance. Some topics can be easily handled through via chat. Some people can't show up at Free Geek on the weekend. Instead of approaching this in a one-size-fits-all manner, lets try t

Re: [PLUG] Terabyte paper tape

All of this brings back fond memories of my time at DEC in San German PR. I started out as a service tech in the plant. They hired a group of 11 of us. I got on because the guy who worked on the model 33 and 35 tty's knew me from being a ham radio op and I also had a collection of model 15 and 28 t

Re: [PLUG] Audacity .aup3

Here is fairly unbiased description of what is going on with Audacity. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/07/audacitys-new-owner-is-in-another-fight-with-the-open-source-community/ -Tomas On Wed, Sep 22, 2021, 19:06 Dick Steffens wrote: > On 9/22/21 3:52 PM, King Beowulf wrote: > > On 9/22/2

Re: [PLUG] Audacity .aup3

Snap has Audacity 3.0.2, if snapdragon isn’t automatically installed with XUbuntu, it’s in the base repos. https://snapcraft.io/audacity And 3.0.4 is available in Flatpak https://flathub.org/apps/details/org.audacityteam.Audacity On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 8:59 PM Tomas Kuchta wrote: > Here is fai

Re: [PLUG] Audacity .aup3

Oops, snapd not snapdragon! On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 9:24 PM Nat Taylor wrote: > Snap has Audacity 3.0.2, if snapdragon isn’t automatically installed with > XUbuntu, it’s in the base repos. > https://snapcraft.io/audacity > And 3.0.4 is available in Flatpak > https://flathub.org/apps/details/org.a

Re: [PLUG] PLUG Constituent Poll 2021

I love technical topics, even when it is outside of my core experience. They are great for discovering new knowledge and tech. If I could have a wish it would be more of hyperscale/cloud infrastructure talks. What are the trends and useful mainstream tech, how to practically and easily maintain sm

Re: [PLUG] Terabyte paper tape

People talk about old tech they same way they talk about fast food. Gone are the days when a burger would be eaten with both hands. A bygone era when a man would stand by the quality of his work, truly committed to quality. We live in an era when technology is shrunken and diminished. With a sin