[PLUG] "Ancient" Verizon fiber Re: Verizon towers ...

2023-03-07 Thread Keith Lofstrom
More than a decade ago, Verizon installed low tier fiber optic Internet to my home. The fiber itself is single mode - the good stuff that can (with repeaters) connect nations across oceans. In theory, they could have provided terabit ethernet from their switch, though the cost of multiple terabi

Re: [PLUG] "Ancient" Verizon fiber Re: Verizon towers ...

2023-03-07 Thread Rich Shepard
On Tue, 7 Mar 2023, Keith Lofstrom wrote: Verizon sold their wireline and fiber service to Frontier, a company which sorta kinda sucked. So I switched to Comcast cable, which also sort kinda sucks. "Boil-the- Frog" increasing pricing, and increasing latency. Then Frontier sold to Ziply, which h

Re: [PLUG] "Ancient" Verizon fiber Re: Verizon towers ...

2023-03-07 Thread MC_Sequoia
"Anyway, single-mode fiber seems like a much more efficient, spectrum-thrifty, and "ecological" way to move bits, than towers and microwave-mmwave transmitters and the occasional radar-blinded aircraft." If only people did what is the most efficient & "ecological". I've been using the most effic

Re: [PLUG] "Ancient" Verizon fiber Re: Verizon towers ...

2023-03-07 Thread Seth Alford
I can't get Comcast VOIP to handle my HP fax machine. Yes, I occasionally still have to send a fax. Does anyone know how Ziply does with a fax machine? Thanks, --Seth On Tue, Mar 7, 2023 at 3:26 PM MC_Sequoia wrote: > "Anyway, single-mode fiber seems like a much more efficient, > spectrum-thri

Re: [PLUG] "Ancient" Verizon fiber Re: Verizon towers ...

2023-03-07 Thread Russell Senior
I would not expect a fax to work on their voip product. More tragic from my perspective, pulse dialing doesn't work. On Tue, Mar 7, 2023, 18:38 Seth Alford wrote: > I can't get Comcast VOIP to handle my HP fax machine. Yes, I occasionally > still have to send a fax. Does anyone know how Ziply d

Re: [PLUG] "Ancient" Verizon fiber Re: Verizon towers ...

2023-03-07 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
It's part of all newer fax machines. Ted -Original Message- From: PLUG On Behalf Of Seth Alford Sent: Tuesday, March 7, 2023 6:38 PM To: Portland Linux/Unix Group Subject: Re: [PLUG] "Ancient" Verizon fiber Re: Verizon towers ... I can't get Comcast VOIP to handle

Re: [PLUG] "Ancient" Verizon fiber Re: Verizon towers ...

2023-03-07 Thread Jeffrey Borcean
port this protocol. It's part of > all newer fax machines. > > Ted > > -Original Message- > From: PLUG On Behalf Of Seth Alford > Sent: Tuesday, March 7, 2023 6:38 PM > To: Portland Linux/Unix Group > Subject: Re: [PLUG] "Ancient" Verizon fiber Re:

Re: [PLUG] "Ancient" Verizon fiber Re: Verizon towers ...

2023-03-08 Thread Rich Shepard
On Tue, 7 Mar 2023, Russell Senior wrote: I would not expect a fax to work on their voip product. Yep. Mine's dead. Not sure what to do with it. More tragic from my perspective, pulse dialing doesn't work. Well, if it's dead it has no pulse. Rich

Re: [PLUG] "Ancient" Verizon fiber Re: Verizon towers ...

2023-03-08 Thread Rich Shepard
On Wed, 8 Mar 2023, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: They use a box that has a chip in it where it converts the fax tones from your fax machine to some protocol I forget the name of (fax over internet) then when that protocol comes out into the PTSN it's converted back to a fax. Unfortunately your fax