Re: [PLUG] dsl woes

2017-12-16 Thread Russell Senior
I am not sure he's able to ping an ip address off-site, but the reports have been too fragmentary to really tell. On Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 2:45 PM, Tomas Kuchta wrote: > Unless I missed something, it seems pretty simple - Bob has demonstrated > that he is able to

Re: [PLUG] dsl woes

2017-12-15 Thread Bob Vinisky
> When you say you "could ping" to somewhere, it is also important to > say where you are pinging from. That is, from the router? from a > device on your LAN? from a device on the DSL modem's LAN? > the question was — "with your router connected to DSL modem and a PC to LAN:” I took that

Re: [PLUG] dsl woes

2017-12-15 Thread Russell Senior
On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 4:44 PM, Bob Vinisky wrote: > From earlier tests: Yes I could ping both the LAN and WAN ip’s of the router > (192.168.107.2 and 192,168,1,2), the ip of the DSL modem, 192.168.1.1. Could > not get google, from either the ip or

Re: [PLUG] dsl woes

2017-12-15 Thread Tomas Kuchta
You have/had DNS resolution problem. Couple of ways to solve that on the router: A) let router pick DNS by DHCP from WAN side B) configure the router to use ISPs DNS servers by typing in their IPs. You could get them by: cat /etc/resolved.conf while being connected to the DSL modem directly. C)

Re: [PLUG] dsl woes

2017-12-15 Thread Bob Vinisky
> On Dec 15, 2017, at 4:47 PM, Russell Senior wrote: >> >> To be accurate, I’m in a no-pc zone. We have Macs and Linux here only. I’ve >> actually only spent an hour or two on the m$ side of the world. No DOS, no >> windows. I was testing on a Mac because it was

Re: [PLUG] dsl woes

2017-12-15 Thread Bob Vinisky
> On Dec 15, 2017, at 3:59 PM, Russell Senior wrote: > > Fwiw, I am very interested to hear why a PC works and your router does > not, because that makes zero sense from your description. > > Russell To be accurate, I’m in a no-pc zone. We have Macs and Linux here

Re: [PLUG] dsl woes

2017-12-15 Thread Tomas Kuchta
Thanks Bob, This should absolutely work - Unless you have some mis-configured routing or DNS. Despite what you hear about the use of ISP gear only. Let's diagnose this a little - with your router connected to DSL modem and a PC to LAN: * Can you ping 8.8.8.8 ? * Can you ping 192.168.107.1 ? *

Re: [PLUG] dsl woes

2017-12-15 Thread Russell Senior
Fwiw, I am very interested to hear why a PC works and your router does not, because that makes zero sense from your description. Russell On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 3:34 PM, Bob Vinisky wrote: > >> On Dec 15, 2017, at 2:01 PM, Tomas Kuchta

Re: [PLUG] dsl woes

2017-12-15 Thread Russell Senior
On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 2:01 PM, Tomas Kuchta wrote: > 1. What is this "dal" - what does that abbreviation mean? dal is his phone autocorrecting DSL, I think. Also "sip" == ISP. Russell ___ PLUG mailing list

Re: [PLUG] dsl woes

2017-12-15 Thread Tomas Kuchta
Bob, Russell was asking a few questions and after this long, there is still no clear and definite answer. Could you please try to contain your frustrations and answer that, and only that? There is no help possible without knowing the facts. 1. What is this "dal" - what does that abbreviation

Re: [PLUG] dsl woes

2017-12-15 Thread Bill Weiss
Bob Vinisky(b...@cherrycreekdaffodils.com)@Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 06:32:02PM -0800: > > > Can you ping the internet from the router? It is plugged in directly. > > > > Are you sure you haven't scrambled your ethernet cables? > > > Yes and no From the router, or any other machine on the LAN I

Re: [PLUG] dsl woes

2017-12-14 Thread Russell Senior
On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 6:06 PM, Bob Vinisky wrote: > >> On Dec 14, 2017, at 5:55 PM, Russell Senior >> wrote: >> >> That makes no sense. They can't see past your router. Your router >> pretends to be all the devices on your LAN. Does

Re: [PLUG] dsl woes

2017-12-14 Thread Bob Vinisky
> On Dec 14, 2017, at 5:55 PM, Russell Senior wrote: > > That makes no sense. They can't see past your router. Your router > pretends to be all the devices on your LAN. Does your computer on the LAN > have a 192.168.107.x address? > > The other thing is that

Re: [PLUG] dsl woes

2017-12-14 Thread Bob Vinisky
> On Dec 14, 2017, at 5:09 PM, Russell Senior wrote: >> >> Couldn’t agree more. To be more precise, when we first were granted dal, >> about 5 or so years ago, I had the connection running through Aracnet. My >> dal modem ( a Zoom ) just bridges the stuff to my lan

Re: [PLUG] dsl woes

2017-12-14 Thread Russell Senior
On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 5:05 PM, Bob Vinisky wrote: > >> On Dec 14, 2017, at 4:54 PM, Russell Senior >> wrote: >> >> That sounds extremely unlikely. It is possible that your router and >> their modem have the same (conflicting) network.

Re: [PLUG] dsl woes

2017-12-14 Thread Rich Shepard
On Thu, 14 Dec 2017, Bob Vinisky wrote: Two days ago ip traffic ceased in our (residential) Frontier dal line. The modem is up and running correctly, but no traffic in or out. Bob, Before SpiritOne lost their mail and web servers I connected to them through my Netgear VFS318 router

Re: [PLUG] dsl woes

2017-12-14 Thread Bob Vinisky
> On Dec 14, 2017, at 4:54 PM, Russell Senior wrote: > > That sounds extremely unlikely. It is possible that your router and > their modem have the same (conflicting) network. Your router should > NAT. Their device shouldn't be able to tell that all the traffic >

Re: [PLUG] dsl woes

2017-12-14 Thread Russell Senior
From your LAN, log in to the router (I assume it has an admin interface). What are the WAN and LAN networks? On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 4:54 PM, Russell Senior wrote: > That sounds extremely unlikely. It is possible that your router and > their modem have the same

Re: [PLUG] dsl woes

2017-12-14 Thread Russell Senior
That sounds extremely unlikely. It is possible that your router and their modem have the same (conflicting) network. Your router should NAT. Their device shouldn't be able to tell that all the traffic isn't coming from that router. They shouldn't be able to see any of the hosts on your LAN.