Re: Help Me Leave Qwest

2006-09-07 Thread Doug Thompson
--- Bradley Dorner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Please, don't recommend Vonage to anyone. I was with > them for about a year and a half and they were little > more then a problem the whole time. They will also > lock you into THEIR hardware. And if that hardware > conflicts with your hardware, l

Re: It's no utopia [was: Help Me Leave Qwest]

2006-09-07 Thread Steve Meyers
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, UTOPIA is fast, but it's down FAR too often. In this past month alone I've had more downtime on my UTOPIA/Xmission circuit than I had cumulatively over years as a Speakeasy DSL customer. I'm on Utopia with Xmission, and it's been great. The whole Utopia network

Re: It's no utopia [was: Help Me Leave Qwest]

2006-09-07 Thread Stephen Shaw
Andrew Jorgensen wrote: On 9/7/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yes, UTOPIA is fast, but it's down FAR too often. In this past month alone I've had more downtime on my UTOPIA/Xmission circuit than I had cumulatively over years as a Speakeasy DSL customer. Just out of curiosity

Re: It's no utopia [was: Help Me Leave Qwest]

2006-09-07 Thread Andrew Jorgensen
On 9/7/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yes, UTOPIA is fast, but it's down FAR too often. In this past month alone I've had more downtime on my UTOPIA/Xmission circuit than I had cumulatively over years as a Speakeasy DSL customer. Just out of curiosity: Have you bothered to c

Re: It's no utopia [was: Help Me Leave Qwest]

2006-09-07 Thread Steve
Oddly enough I went 4 months of unemployment and was unable to pay my bill during that time. MStar (UTOPIA) never disconnected on me during that time (albeit there was some outage issues where I thought they had disconnected me there for a minute :) On 9/7/06, Jeff Nyman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot

RE: It's no utopia [was: Help Me Leave Qwest]

2006-09-07 Thread Jeff Nyman
Don't be seduced by the promise of UTOPIA fiber. As I have learned, there's a lot more to reliable service than just the fiber. And if Xmission can't do UTOPIA right, what other provider has a prayer? Chris /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailm

It's no utopia [was: Help Me Leave Qwest]

2006-09-07 Thread plug . org
Lots of folks here seem to be longing for UTOPIA. Based on my experience, UTOPIA is no utopia. I was among the first in my neighborhood to sign up for UTOPIA when the fiber was pulled (back in April). I thought I was "trading up" from an old-but-reliable Speakeasy DSL circuit. Yes, UTOPIA is

Re: Help Me Leave Qwest

2006-09-07 Thread Steve Dibb
Bradley Dorner wrote: Please, don't recommend Vonage to anyone. After running their ads with the most annoying jingle this side of the century, I don't think that's going to be an issue anytime soon. Steve /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mai

Re: Help Me Leave Qwest

2006-09-07 Thread Andrew Jorgensen
On 9/7/06, Matthew Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hmmm. Thanks for the suggestions. Impressively, there are actually DSL competitors to Qwest. First I've heard of it. Please note, however, that if it's DSL it's really Qwest anyway. They own and manage the PSTN here regardless of who you pay

Re: Help Me Leave Qwest

2006-09-07 Thread Bradley Dorner
Please, don't recommend Vonage to anyone. I was with them for about a year and a half and they were little more then a problem the whole time. They will also lock you into THEIR hardware. And if that hardware conflicts with your hardware, like it did with mine, you are left out in the dark holding

Re: Collab Server

2006-09-07 Thread Stuart Jansen
On Thu, 2006-09-07 at 14:28 -0600, Barry Roberts wrote: > Only a partial hijack, but I'm considering putting opengroupware.org > on my server because my server is too slow/small for zimbra. If > anybody has any experience with OGo, I would love to hear that as > well. We use it at work. I don't l

Re: Collab Server

2006-09-07 Thread Barry Roberts
On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 08:52:34AM -0600, Scott Morris wrote: > At my place of employment, my manager has requested that I check into an > open-source alternative to M$ Exchange. OpenExchange and Zimbra are the > options that I have found that may suit our needs. Only a partial hijack, but I'm co

Re: Storing home directories on NFS server

2006-09-07 Thread Stuart Jansen
On Thu, 2006-09-07 at 13:01 -0600, Lee Higginson wrote: > What complications may arise (if any) by storing all home directory > information (for example .bash_profile etc) in one location and mounting > that to the home directories from machines on different platforms? > Platforms that will be moun

Re: Storing home directories on NFS server

2006-09-07 Thread Michael L Torrie
On Thu, 2006-09-07 at 13:17 -0600, Charles Curley wrote: > Well, one possible problem is with different versions of the same > program keeping their dot files straight. This might be even worse > across unicies. > > Make sure either that everyone has the same uid:gid on all machines or > that you

Re: Help Me Leave Qwest

2006-09-07 Thread Doug Thompson
--- Matthew Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Been considering voip. I need to sit down and figure out how much (if > any) > I would save by switching to a naked DSL circuit, and getting Voip. Last year I quit Qwest for phone service entirely. But I do use them for DSL with Xmission has

Collab Server

2006-09-07 Thread Scott Morris
All, At my place of employment, my manager has requested that I check into an open-source alternative to M$ Exchange. OpenExchange and Zimbra are the options that I have found that may suit our needs. Does anyone have positive experience with either of these or with something else? TIA for your

Re: Storing home directories on NFS server

2006-09-07 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 01:01:35PM -0600, Lee Higginson wrote: > Hello, > > > What complications may arise (if any) by storing all home directory > information (for example .bash_profile etc) in one location and mounting > that to the home directories from machines on different platforms? > Plat

Re: Help Me Leave Qwest

2006-09-07 Thread Matthew Walker
> > Heh. I don't have the foggiest where to start. I've never even been to a > city council meeting. But I'm willing to help, if someone has the > expertise about the best way to go about this. I just emailed the contact address over at Utopia, asking if they have any advice on this topic. Matthe

Storing home directories on NFS server

2006-09-07 Thread Lee Higginson
Hello, I'm working on setting up an NFS server to store home directories for linux/unix users in one central location. I've never done this before so I'm hoping someone may be able to give some insight on doing this correctly. The plan is to set up the NFS server and exporting a directory, say

Re: Help Me Leave Qwest

2006-09-07 Thread Matthew Walker
> Matthew, > > I also live in Springville, and have several friends who also live there. > We are all willing to spend some time down at the City Council meetings to > help push it. Just let me know how we can help. Also, my guess is we are > not the only ones interested in pushing this, even if

Re: Help Me Leave Qwest

2006-09-07 Thread Matthew Walker
> Matthew Walker wrote: > You didnt mention what city you were in! You need to call that guy that > did Airswitch. There is a secret (small) stretch of road in Springville > that has 10mbit Airswitch. A year or so ago I heard he was still running > a few small pieces of the network. Dont want to g

Re: ANN: Utah Asterisk Users Group Mtg tonight

2006-09-07 Thread Carl Youngblood
I like Arrival Telecom. They are local and they have good quality. They charge $10 a month for local calling plus 1.9 cents/minute for US long distance, or 23.99 for unlimited long distance. On 9/7/06, Gabriel Gunderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, 2006-09-07 at 11:39 -0600, Roberto Mello

Re: ANN: Utah Asterisk Users Group Mtg tonight

2006-09-07 Thread Gabriel Gunderson
On Thu, 2006-09-07 at 11:37 -0600, Michael A. Cleverly wrote: > On 9/7/06, Dr. Scott S. Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Does a list exist outlining VOIP providers whose services work with > > Asterisk? > > Try: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/VOIP+Service+Providers > > Michael Or more

Re: Help Me Leave Qwest

2006-09-07 Thread David B
Matthew Walker wrote: I'm desperate to find an alternative to Qwest, but I have some requirements that are making it hard. 1. I would prefer to still have the option of using XMission as my ISP. 2. I live in a non-Utopia town, so that's out. 3. Must provide high-speed internet. DSL preferred, bu

Re: Help Me Leave Qwest

2006-09-07 Thread Clint Savage
On 9/7/06, Matthew Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Matthew Walker wrote: >> I'm desperate to find an alternative to Qwest, but I have some >> requirements that are making it hard. >> >> 1. I would prefer to still have the option of using XMission as my ISP. >> 2. I live in a non-Utopia town,

Re: Help Me Leave Qwest

2006-09-07 Thread David B
Matthew Walker wrote: I'm desperate to find an alternative to Qwest, but I have some requirements that are making it hard. You didnt mention what city you were in! You need to call that guy that did Airswitch. There is a secret (small) stretch of road in Springville that has 10mbit Airswitch.

Re: Help Me Leave Qwest

2006-09-07 Thread Matthew Walker
> Matthew Walker wrote: >> I'm desperate to find an alternative to Qwest, but I have some >> requirements that are making it hard. >> >> 1. I would prefer to still have the option of using XMission as my ISP. >> 2. I live in a non-Utopia town, so that's out. >> 3. Must provide high-speed internet.

Re: ANN: Utah Asterisk Users Group Mtg tonight

2006-09-07 Thread Gabriel Gunderson
On Thu, 2006-09-07 at 10:49 -0600, Carl Youngblood wrote: > They could, of course, choose from a myriad of other providers that > support asterisk, and cut their charges in half as well. Who do you know that supports Asterisk, is available for residential, is cheap and doesn't stink? -- Gabriel

Re: ANN: Utah Asterisk Users Group Mtg tonight

2006-09-07 Thread Gary Thornock
--- Gabriel Gunderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2006-09-07 at 10:49 -0600, Carl Youngblood wrote: >> They could, of course, choose from a myriad of other providers >> that support asterisk, and cut their charges in half as well. > > Who do you know that supports Asterisk, is available f

Re: ANN: Utah Asterisk Users Group Mtg tonight

2006-09-07 Thread Roberto Mello
On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 11:30:56AM -0600, Gabriel Gunderson wrote: > On Thu, 2006-09-07 at 10:49 -0600, Carl Youngblood wrote: > > They could, of course, choose from a myriad of other providers that > > support asterisk, and cut their charges in half as well. > > Who do you know that supports Aste

Re: ANN: Utah Asterisk Users Group Mtg tonight

2006-09-07 Thread Gabriel Gunderson
On Thu, 2006-09-07 at 11:55 -0600, Carl Youngblood wrote: > I like Arrival Telecom. They are local and they have good quality. > They charge $10 a month for local calling plus 1.9 cents/minute for US > long distance, or 23.99 for unlimited long distance. Hmm, I didn't know they were local. I did

Re: Python Meeting, tonight (09/07)

2006-09-07 Thread Scott Paul Robertson
Room 340 of the crabtree. -- Scott Paul Robertson http://spr.mahonri5.net GnuPG FingerPrint: 09ab 64b5 edc0 903e 93ce edb9 3bcc f8fb dc5d 7601 signature.asc Description: Digital signature /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don'

Help Me Leave Qwest

2006-09-07 Thread Matthew Walker
I'm desperate to find an alternative to Qwest, but I have some requirements that are making it hard. 1. I would prefer to still have the option of using XMission as my ISP. 2. I live in a non-Utopia town, so that's out. 3. Must provide high-speed internet. DSL preferred, but I'm willing to conside

Re: ANN: Utah Asterisk Users Group Mtg tonight

2006-09-07 Thread Doran L. Barton
Carl Youngblood wrote: > I like Arrival Telecom. They are local and they have good quality. > They charge $10 a month for local calling plus 1.9 cents/minute for US > long distance, or 23.99 for unlimited long distance. Got an URL? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] is Doran L. Barton, president/CTO, Iodynam

Re: ANN: Utah Asterisk Users Group Mtg tonight

2006-09-07 Thread Barry Roberts
On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 11:30:56AM -0600, Gabriel Gunderson wrote: > > Who do you know that supports Asterisk, is available for residential, is > cheap and doesn't stink? > http://www.arrivaltel.com/ But if you've been to a utaug meeting I assume you've heard of them. Do they not meet one of yo

Re: ANN: Utah Asterisk Users Group Mtg tonight

2006-09-07 Thread Gabriel Gunderson
On Thu, 2006-09-07 at 11:39 -0600, Roberto Mello wrote: > I am on Broadvoice and they support Asterisk. Do they stink? They seem > to work well for me. They stink to high heaven. At first I loved them. After a year of monthly mess-ups, even I had to drop them. -- Gabriel Gunderson http://gundy

Re: ANN: Utah Asterisk Users Group Mtg tonight

2006-09-07 Thread Michael A. Cleverly
On 9/7/06, Dr. Scott S. Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Does a list exist outlining VOIP providers whose services work with Asterisk? Try: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/VOIP+Service+Providers Michael /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailm

Re: ANN: Utah Asterisk Users Group Mtg tonight

2006-09-07 Thread Dr. Scott S. Jones
+++ Carl Youngblood [07/09/06 10:49 -0600]: > They could, of course, choose from a myriad of other providers that > support asterisk, and cut their charges in half as well. > > On 9/6/06, Gabriel Gunderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> My folks just signed up for VoIP with... comcast I think it

Python Meeting, tonight (09/07)

2006-09-07 Thread jamie
This is a reminder that the BYU Unix Users Group will be having a meeting tonight on Python. This will be at 7:30pm in the Crabtree Building on Campus. For a campus map, click on the following link: http://map.byu.edu/ The crabtree building is number 27. Thre are parking lots just east and north-

Re: ANN: Utah Asterisk Users Group Mtg tonight

2006-09-07 Thread Carl Youngblood
They could, of course, choose from a myriad of other providers that support asterisk, and cut their charges in half as well. On 9/6/06, Gabriel Gunderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My folks just signed up for VoIP with... comcast I think it was. Is > it possible to set up an Asterisk box in t

Re: WestHost job posting

2006-09-07 Thread Alex Esplin
On 9/6/06, Brian Beardall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Not too bad since I didn't proofread before I sent the job posting. lol What I am saying is that good grammar is definitely a good skill, but most likely won't happen to shine in the emails that are sent out, unless there is some proofreading d

Re: Employment opportunity working with Linux

2006-09-07 Thread Charles Curley
On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 09:30:59PM -0600, Brian Beardall wrote: > The process is perfectly legal because I did it. I thought that only applied to the President of the United States. -- Charles Curley /"\ASCII Ribbon Campaign Looking for fine software \ /Respect f