Re: VOIP Provider Again

2007-04-10 Thread Gabriel Gunderson
On Tue, 2007-04-10 at 15:51 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > How about broadvoice? Any good or bad experience with them? Bad - very bad. I was happy with them and then service and quality both disappeared. Gabe /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/

Re: Distributed source control @ Utah Python user group

2007-04-10 Thread Bryan Petty
On 4/10/07, Nicholas Leippe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I do have some idea. I also know how bad it can bite you when a file contains data in a heredoc that depends on the line ending it was created with. (think mime mail or HTTP headers). This is why you don't set those properties on those file

Re: Distributed source control @ Utah Python user group

2007-04-10 Thread Nicholas Leippe
On Tuesday 10 April 2007, Bryan Petty wrote: > On 4/10/07, Nicholas Leippe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > IMO, managing line endings shouldn't be a function of a vcs--a vcs should > > _never_ alter the data that it keeps. > > Subversion preserves newline endings unless the svn:eol-style property >

Re: Distributed source control @ Utah Python user group

2007-04-10 Thread Bryan Petty
On 4/10/07, Nicholas Leippe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: IMO, managing line endings shouldn't be a function of a vcs--a vcs should _never_ alter the data that it keeps. Subversion preserves newline endings unless the svn:eol-style property is set to configure certain files to either force a certa

Re: Distributed source control @ Utah Python user group

2007-04-10 Thread blr
> On Tuesday 10 April 2007, Byron Clark wrote: >> On 4/10/07, Nicholas Leippe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > IMO, git is becoming a vcs to reckon with. I do admit that it would be >> > nice to have more solid windows support (such as tortoise does for cvs >> > w/shell integration) for all those pr

Re: Distributed source control @ Utah Python user group

2007-04-10 Thread Nicholas Leippe
On Tuesday 10 April 2007, Byron Clark wrote: > On 4/10/07, Nicholas Leippe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > IMO, managing line endings shouldn't be a function of a vcs--a vcs should > > _never_ alter the data that it keeps. > > I agree and AFAIK that is what git attempts to do. Unfortunately, > 'git

Re: Distributed source control @ Utah Python user group

2007-04-10 Thread Byron Clark
On 4/10/07, Nicholas Leippe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: IMO, managing line endings shouldn't be a function of a vcs--a vcs should _never_ alter the data that it keeps. I agree and AFAIK that is what git attempts to do. Unfortunately, 'git commit' treats windows line endings as trailing whitespa

Re: Distributed source control @ Utah Python user group

2007-04-10 Thread Nicholas Leippe
On Tuesday 10 April 2007, Byron Clark wrote: > On 4/10/07, Nicholas Leippe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > IMO, git is becoming a vcs to reckon with. I do admit that it would be > > nice to have more solid windows support (such as tortoise does for cvs > > w/shell integration) for all those projects

Re: Distributed source control @ Utah Python user group

2007-04-10 Thread Byron Clark
On 4/10/07, Nicholas Leippe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: IMO, git is becoming a vcs to reckon with. I do admit that it would be nice to have more solid windows support (such as tortoise does for cvs w/shell integration) for all those projects that are cross platform. While a GUI would be nice, I

Re: Distributed source control @ Utah Python user group

2007-04-10 Thread Nicholas Leippe
On Tuesday 10 April 2007, Jonathan Ellis wrote: > My opinion is that if you're not working on the Linux kernel, you won't > use most of the git-specific features, and the relative (lack of) uptake > of git outside of kernel developers reflects that. The list keeps growing: http://git.or.cz/gitwik

Re: Distributed source control @ Utah Python user group

2007-04-10 Thread Jonathan Ellis
On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 18:41:03 - (GMT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > > This Thursday (April 12) I'm presenting an overview of dscm in general > > and Mercurial in particular. If you've been happy with svn and you've > > been wondering what the fuss is over this new-fangled distributed stuff, > > yo

Re: Distributed source control @ Utah Python user group

2007-04-10 Thread blr
> This Thursday (April 12) I'm presenting an overview of dscm in general > and Mercurial in particular. If you've been happy with svn and you've > been wondering what the fuss is over this new-fangled distributed stuff, > you might find this interesting. > > Mercurial is part of the 2nd generation

Re: VOIP Provider Again

2007-04-10 Thread Brian Beardall
On Tue, 2007-04-10 at 10:02 -0600, Nicholas Leippe wrote: > On Monday 09 April 2007, Chad wrote: > > On 4/9/07, Brian Beardall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I use Viatalk for my VOIP provider. I've been using them for over a > > > year, and move between systems and it works on various networks.

Re: High Load average no CPU utilization

2007-04-10 Thread Bryan Sant
On 3/29/07, adam fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: When the load average goes to 149 I get a maxclients reached in my error log. I can browse the web page fine fast and everything until that limit is reached. So I am thinking it is an apache issue and it is not closing the connections. Ad

Re: VOIP Provider Again

2007-04-10 Thread blr
> On 4/10/07, Nicholas Leippe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> A coworker uses sipphone w/no service complaints. > > Only trouble w/ sipphone / gizmoproject is they don't support E911. > They appear (according to their web site) to only have SLC phone numbers. If all my in-laws in the valley have to

Re: VOIP Provider Again

2007-04-10 Thread Andrew Jorgensen
On 4/10/07, Nicholas Leippe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: A coworker uses sipphone w/no service complaints. Only trouble w/ sipphone / gizmoproject is they don't support E911. /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the peng

Re: VOIP Provider Again

2007-04-10 Thread Nicholas Leippe
On Monday 09 April 2007, Chad wrote: > On 4/9/07, Brian Beardall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I use Viatalk for my VOIP provider. I've been using them for over a > > year, and move between systems and it works on various networks. Viatalk > > uses the standard sip protocol and you can bring your

Distributed source control @ Utah Python user group

2007-04-10 Thread Jonathan Ellis
This Thursday (April 12) I'm presenting an overview of dscm in general and Mercurial in particular. If you've been happy with svn and you've been wondering what the fuss is over this new-fangled distributed stuff, you might find this interesting. Mercurial is part of the 2nd generation of dscm sy

local email server not delivering

2007-04-10 Thread Brandon Stout
I have OpenSuse 10.2 on my server. I installed these mail-related programs: * Amavisd-new * clamav * fetchmail * postfix * procmail * spamassassin * courier-authlib-userdb * courier-imap YaST reported no conflicts between these. Some info on Amavisd-new: it is a high-performance interface bet

Re: VOIP Provider Again

2007-04-10 Thread Louis Zirkel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> On 4/9/07, Gabriel Gunderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On Mon, 2007-04-09 at 16:51 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's a good VOIP provider for an Orem resident with Comcast broadband? >>> 2 1/2 years of se

Re: VOIP Provider Again

2007-04-10 Thread blr
> On 4/9/07, Gabriel Gunderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> On Mon, 2007-04-09 at 16:51 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> > What's a good VOIP provider for an Orem resident with Comcast >> > broadband? >> >> 2 1/2 years of searching tells me that there are none. Well, so far I've gotten one r

Re: High Load average no CPU utilization

2007-04-10 Thread adam fisher
Just to write a follow up on this. After I did an strace on one of the apache process I found that everything ran fine until you tried to log in to customer account portion of our site.It would write the php_session key but that is as far as it goes on that box. The apache user has rw ac

Re: VOIP Provider Again

2007-04-10 Thread Lars Rasmussen
On 4/9/07, Gabriel Gunderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, 2007-04-09 at 16:51 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > What's a good VOIP provider for an Orem resident with Comcast > broadband? 2 1/2 years of searching tells me that there are none. I'm not in Orem, but I've been with Vonage i