Re: OT: Siebel Developer

2008-02-28 Thread Alan Young
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 8:15 PM, Derek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We are willing to pay handsomely for this. Just name your price. We > will pay you for any phone conversations (once we validate your competency). So no chance of bs'ing through this, eh? :> Good luck. I don't know why I'm r

Re: OT: Siebel Developer

2008-02-28 Thread Derek
Derek wrote: My company is looking for a Siebel developer for a small contracting job. Initially we will require somebody to be on conference calls with a prospect and if we win the deal then we would need the development done. Please forward to any people or lists that may be interested.

Re: For all you top posters out there, this is for you...

2008-02-28 Thread Jason Hall
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Stuart Jansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2008-02-28 at 10:45 -0700, justin wrote: > > if you make your own happiness contingent upon the mailing list habits > > of others, you're going to lead a sad, sad life. > > If your happiness depends on showing dis

[OT] Re: Expected mailing-list etiquette -- was Re: For all you top posters out there, this is for you...

2008-02-28 Thread Shane Hathaway
Steven Alligood wrote: I [...] actually [...] hate [...] life [...] If you get to top post just because you want to, then I get to quote you selectively just because I want to. Shane P.S. Time for the [OT] marker! /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plu

Re: Expected mailing-list etiquette -- was Re: For all you top posters out there, this is for you...

2008-02-28 Thread Stuart Jansen
On Thu, 2008-02-28 at 15:25 -0700, Steven Alligood wrote: > The Internet is full of people doing > what they want, when they want, and "netiquette" is just another way of > saying that everyone should do what some want them to do. And traffic lights are just another way for the man to keep you d

Re: Expected mailing-list etiquette -- was Re: For all you top posters out there, this is for you...

2008-02-28 Thread Steven Alligood
I am actually quite apathetic about most of you, although I like some, and hate others (and if all of you were honest, you would admit to the same feelings, just like Bilbo: *"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like half of you half as well as you deserve."*), so I

Re: Expected mailing-list etiquette -- was Re: For all you top posters out there, this is for you...

2008-02-28 Thread Michael L Torrie
justin wrote: > On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Gabriel Gunderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Evo used to place my cursor below the email so I could easily >> bottom-post. A few minor versions ago, it started placing my cursor at >> the top of my reply making it harder to bottom-post. I ta

For Sale: Hauppauge Media MVP

2008-02-28 Thread Jeremy Bowers
Hi, I have a Model 86019 Rev H3 Hauppauge Media MVP that I would like to sell. I have used it for just over year as a low power, quiet Myth TV frontend, although with different firmware you can use it as a front end for a lot of different media players (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hauppauge_Media

Re: Expected mailing-list etiquette -- was Re: For all you top posters out there, this is for you...

2008-02-28 Thread justin
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Gabriel Gunderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Evo used to place my cursor below the email so I could easily > bottom-post. A few minor versions ago, it started placing my cursor at > the top of my reply making it harder to bottom-post. I take the extra > eff

Asterisk Voicemail for iPhone

2008-02-28 Thread Chris Carey
Heres a little teaser for those of you with iPhones Asterisk Voicemail for iPhone allows you to check your voicemail messages on your house or business line from your iPhone. You can think of it as "Visual Voicemail", but for your Asterisk PBX numbers instead of your AT&T cell number. The technolo

Re: For all you top posters out there, this is for you...

2008-02-28 Thread Stuart Jansen
On Thu, 2008-02-28 at 10:45 -0700, justin wrote: > if you make your own happiness contingent upon the mailing list habits > of others, you're going to lead a sad, sad life. If your happiness depends on showing disrespect for others, you're going to lead a sad, sad life. -- "English doesn't borro

Re: For all you top posters out there, this is for you...

2008-02-28 Thread Corey Edwards
On Thu, 2008-02-28 at 11:10 -0700, Shane Hathaway wrote: > It's all about context. When I write to a mailing list such as this > one, I am writing to a group of very Internet-savvy people, so I use the > sophisticated conventions appropriate for the audience. When I write an > email for people

Re: Expected mailing-list etiquette -- was Re: For all you top posters out there, this is for you...

2008-02-28 Thread Gabriel Gunderson
On Thu, 2008-02-28 at 10:55 -0700, Michael L Torrie wrote: > I don't intentionally leave someone's signature. Oddly enough, > thunderbird appears to now automatically trim off the signature > (anything below the --). In Evolution, I can select the text I want to repy-to and when I hit reply, it o

Re: For all you top posters out there, this is for you...

2008-02-28 Thread Shane Hathaway
Michael L Torrie wrote: People who think as you do are using e-mail as either a glorified letter-writing system, or as a glorified text-messaging system. Knowing you, e-mail to you is a text-messaging system where most things are short. Thus your google conversations works fine. But I use e-ma

Re: For all you top posters out there, this is for you...

2008-02-28 Thread Michael L Torrie
justin wrote: > > > i agree. sometimes middle posting is ideal. most of the time, however, > i find myself responding to an email as a whole, or to a theme seen > throughout the message. in these cases, i usually find myself trimming > all but a sentence or two and then top posting. Most of the e

Expected mailing-list etiquette -- was Re: For all you top posters out there, this is for you...

2008-02-28 Thread Michael L Torrie
Stuart Jansen wrote: > Personally, I disagree with Michael. I find it annoying (but not overly > so) that he always leaves a pointless copy of the other person's sig or > the list footer. Personally, I would call what Michael does bottom > posting with the caveat that he sometimes misses a little c

Re: For all you top posters out there, this is for you...

2008-02-28 Thread Corey Edwards
On Thu, 2008-02-28 at 09:51 -0700, Hans Fugal wrote: > sometimes it makes sense to trim out the fat Let's not disparage the innocent fat. It's bad enough that the FDA has been trying to rid our lives of such a delectable substance. Corey /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsu

Re: For all you top posters out there, this is for you...

2008-02-28 Thread justin
if you make your own happiness contingent upon the mailing list habits of others, you're going to lead a sad, sad life. On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 10:24 AM, Michael L Torrie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But I only keep the stuff that's useful to me. I delete threads quite > regularly. If someone

Re: For all you top posters out there, this is for you...

2008-02-28 Thread Paul Seamons
On Thursday 28 February 2008, John M. Anderson wrote: > > But I only keep the stuff that's useful to me. I delete threads quite > > regularly. If someone replies to a thread I've deleted, top-posting > > provides no context. Each e-mail is thus standalone. > > Whats the verdict on middle posting?

Re: For all you top posters out there, this is for you...

2008-02-28 Thread Stuart Jansen
On Thu, 2008-02-28 at 10:31 -0700, John M. Anderson wrote: > > But I only keep the stuff that's useful to me. I delete threads quite > > regularly. If someone replies to a thread I've deleted, top-posting > > provides no context. Each e-mail is thus standalone. > > > > > Whats the verdict on

Re: For all you top posters out there, this is for you...

2008-02-28 Thread John M. Anderson
> But I only keep the stuff that's useful to me. I delete threads quite > regularly. If someone replies to a thread I've deleted, top-posting > provides no context. Each e-mail is thus standalone. > Whats the verdict on middle posting? > The most common complaint by people I hear is that t

Re: For all you top posters out there, this is for you...

2008-02-28 Thread Stuart Jansen
On Thu, 2008-02-28 at 09:51 -0700, Hans Fugal wrote: > Sometimes it makes sense to top post Folks, Michael Torrie has just demonstrated exactly how to behave courteously on the UUG mailing list. Check out his post "Native vs Bytecode vs AOT JIT -- was Re: favourite scripting language" http://uug.b

Re: For all you top posters out there, this is for you...

2008-02-28 Thread Michael L Torrie
justin wrote: > but if you're following the thread, you've already seen the previous > post... why would you need to see it again? just use an email client > that has a threaded view for mailing lists and hides quote blocks and > you'll be fine ;) But I only keep the stuff that's useful to me. I

Re: For all you top posters out there, this is for you...

2008-02-28 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 09:32:28AM -0700, Doran L. Barton wrote: > Not long ago, Stephen Shaw proclaimed... > The downside of trimming and inline/bottom posting is that it > requires effort on the part of the respondent and it is universally > known that anything which requires effort is generally

Re: For all you top posters out there, this is for you...

2008-02-28 Thread Nathan
I know what will work. We need to create a plugin that will copy the top of the message to the bottom so both parties will be happy. From the department of redundancy department On Thu, 2008-02-28 at 09:05 -0700, Stephen Shaw wrote: > On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 8:37 AM, Jeff Anderson <[EMAIL PROT

OT: Siebel Developer

2008-02-28 Thread Derek
My company is looking for a Siebel developer for a small contracting job. Initially we will require somebody to be on conference calls with a prospect and if we win the deal then we would need the development done. Please forward to any people or lists that may be interested. Thanks, Derek

Re: For all you top posters out there, this is for you...

2008-02-28 Thread Hans Fugal
Stephen Shaw wrote: On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 8:37 AM, Jeff Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sorry, I agree with justin. :) Jeff oh this list is going down hill. If I only had a shaking head image... :) Some of the ancients on this list are top-posters (myself included, though not ex

Re: For all you top posters out there, this is for you...

2008-02-28 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 12:11:52AM -0700, justin wrote: > but if you're following the thread, you've already seen the previous > post... why would you need to see it again? OK, what if the reader is coming into the thread in the middle, say after googling and finding an archive copy. > just use a

Re: For all you top posters out there, this is for you...

2008-02-28 Thread Doran L. Barton
Not long ago, Stephen Shaw proclaimed... > > but if you're following the thread, you've already seen the previous > > post... why would you need to see it again? just use an email client > > that has a threaded view for mailing lists and hides quote blocks and > > you'll be fine ;) > > OK, someone

Re: For all you top posters out there, this is for you...

2008-02-28 Thread Alex Esplin
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 9:05 AM, Stephen Shaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > oh this list is going down hill. If I only had a shaking head image... :) Yeah, you could say a list is going downhill when someone posts something that in the past has led to interminably boring flamewars just for the h

Re: For all you top posters out there, this is for you...

2008-02-28 Thread Stephen Shaw
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 8:37 AM, Jeff Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry, I agree with justin. > :) > > Jeff > > oh this list is going down hill. If I only had a shaking head image... :) Stephen /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/

Re: For all you top posters out there, this is for you...

2008-02-28 Thread Jeff Anderson
Sorry, I agree with justin. :) Jeff Stephen Shaw wrote: On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 12:11 AM, justin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: but if you're following the thread, you've already seen the previous post... why would you need to see it again? just use an email client that has a threaded view for

Re: For all you top posters out there, this is for you...

2008-02-28 Thread Stephen Shaw
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 12:11 AM, justin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > but if you're following the thread, you've already seen the previous > post... why would you need to see it again? just use an email client > that has a threaded view for mailing lists and hides quote blocks and > you'll be fine