Ruby on Rails WAS Re: Job Market Awareness Check

2014-01-30 Thread Richard Esplin
Changing topics: What do you have against Ruby on Rails? I haven't done much with RoR, but it seems promising. My team is currently deciding between Django and Rails for our next project. I already understand Django, but what should I know about Rails? Thanks, Richard On Wednesday, January

Re: Ruby on Rails WAS Re: Job Market Awareness Check

2014-01-30 Thread Doran L. Barton
On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 10:08:09 -0700 Richard Esplin richard-li...@esplins.org wrote: I haven't done much with RoR, but it seems promising. My team is currently deciding between Django and Rails for our next project. I already understand Django, but what should I know about Rails? RoR has lost

Re: Bash Tutorial

2014-01-30 Thread Eric Olsen
What happened to this? I would like to see them, and know some colleagues who are interested in getting their feet wet I'd like to pass them along to. Thanks in advance, -Eric On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 3:06 PM, Steven Boyd steven.boy...@gmail.comwrote: I would be interested, and I know some of

Re: Ruby on Rails WAS Re: Job Market Awareness Check

2014-01-30 Thread Michael Torrie
On 01/30/2014 10:35 AM, Doran L. Barton wrote: On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 10:08:09 -0700 Richard Esplin richard-li...@esplins.org wrote: I haven't done much with RoR, but it seems promising. My team is currently deciding between Django and Rails for our next project. I already understand Django,

Re: Ruby on Rails WAS Re: Job Market Awareness Check

2014-01-30 Thread Jonathan Duncan
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Doran L. Barton f...@hypermoo.com wrote: On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 10:08:09 -0700 Richard Esplin richard-li...@esplins.org wrote: I haven't done much with RoR, but it seems promising. My team is currently deciding between Django and Rails for our next project.

Re: Ruby on Rails WAS Re: Job Market Awareness Check

2014-01-30 Thread Barry Roberts
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Michael Torrie torr...@gmail.com wrote: That doesn't really answer Richard's question though. Are there technical reasons to avoid RoR? Did it prove to be insecure, inflexible, unmaintainable? I looked at RoR a long time ago when it was all the hotness. So

Re: Ruby on Rails WAS Re: Job Market Awareness Check

2014-01-30 Thread Mike Moore
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Barry Roberts b...@robertsr.us wrote: I looked at RoR a long time ago when it was all the hotness. So my opinion may be outdated, but here it is: RoR is really good at making simple CRUD web apps that are backed by a database. But if you want to go much

Re: Ruby on Rails WAS Re: Job Market Awareness Check

2014-01-30 Thread S. Dale Morrey
Most of the people I've seen using rails in the past are moving to node or scala because of scalability issues where rails just couldn't handle the load. That's not an endorsement and is literally just andecdotal since I've never seen anything myself that ruby couldn't handle. But still I figured

Re: Ruby on Rails WAS Re: Job Market Awareness Check

2014-01-30 Thread Lonnie Olson
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 12:34 PM, S. Dale Morrey sdalemor...@gmail.com wrote: Most of the people I've seen using rails in the past are moving to node or scala because of scalability issues where rails just couldn't handle the load. That's not an endorsement and is literally just andecdotal

Re: Ruby on Rails WAS Re: Job Market Awareness Check

2014-01-30 Thread S. Dale Morrey
I don't particularly disagree however one thing that Node gives you that you really don't get with Ruby is a wide base of talent with strong familiarity with the underlaying language. Sure there are ruby guys, but nearly every company with a website has someone at least moderately competent in

Re: Ruby on Rails WAS Re: Job Market Awareness Check

2014-01-30 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 13:06:30 -0700 Lonnie Olson li...@kittypee.com wrote: Though this supposed migration of the bleeding-edgers(tm) likely means it's a good time to properly evaluate RoR. :) I would hope that the bleeding-edgers(tm) would have already evaluated RoR and incorporated that into

Re: Ruby on Rails WAS Re: Job Market Awareness Check

2014-01-30 Thread Tod Hansmann
On 1/30/2014 10:08 AM, Richard Esplin wrote: Changing topics: What do you have against Ruby on Rails? I haven't done much with RoR, but it seems promising. My team is currently deciding between Django and Rails for our next project. I already understand Django, but what should I know about

Re: Ruby on Rails WAS Re: Job Market Awareness Check

2014-01-30 Thread Michael Torrie
On 01/30/2014 05:05 PM, Tod Hansmann wrote: - I think Ruby is hideous (aesthetic, I know) - Until recently Rails performance has been horrendous. It's not great now, mind you, but it is at least competitive. I just have the stigma left over (I had a similar issue with Java for a good two

Re: Convert output of last to icalendar format

2014-01-30 Thread Dallin Jones
Does last not provide the information you are looking for? What about the ac command? Dallin Jones — Sent from Mailbox for iPhone On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 3:15 PM, Alan Young alansyoung...@gmail.com wrote: I am sick and tired of my kids fighting over who has been on the computer most and

Re: Ruby on Rails WAS Re: Job Market Awareness Check

2014-01-30 Thread Tod Hansmann
On 1/30/2014 5:25 PM, Michael Torrie wrote: On 01/30/2014 05:05 PM, Tod Hansmann wrote: - I think Ruby is hideous (aesthetic, I know) - Until recently Rails performance has been horrendous. It's not great now, mind you, but it is at least competitive. I just have the stigma left over (I had

Re: Ruby on Rails WAS Re: Job Market Awareness Check

2014-01-30 Thread Levi Pearson
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 5:25 PM, Michael Torrie torr...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/30/2014 05:05 PM, Tod Hansmann wrote: - I think Ruby is hideous (aesthetic, I know) - Until recently Rails performance has been horrendous. It's not great now, mind you, but it is at least competitive. I just have